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YeahTubaMike posted:I know his offspring were tadpoles and all, but in what universe is Kif even remotely frog-like? he's amphibian and his last name is Croaker; he's obviously intended to be an alien frog even if he doesn't really resemble one
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:he's amphibian and his last name is Croaker; he's obviously intended to be an alien frog even if he doesn't really resemble one I never made that connection 
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Aug 9, 2023 16:34
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well, Kroker, but yes. he literally calls himself amphibious at one point. when he agrees to 'split his room' with amy, he crawls on the ceiling like a tree frog. and the most recent episode where the babies - who were dumped in a pond for 20 years - come back and go through 'the winnowing' and only 3 survive is peak frog. The old frog lady is celebrating their ascension to land from sea as part of their life cycle, culminating in cutting off their tadpole tails. Dude's a space frog. this is also how they handwave away his getting pregnant, cuz his thin semi-permeable frog-type skin just absorbs DNA when he's in the right mood. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Aug 9, 2023 16:41
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Does he ever catch a bug with his tongue? Feels like he's done that but I can't recall Edit or does zapp grab him by the tongue at some point?
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Aug 9, 2023 16:56
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hmmm...I feel like he licks his eyeball at some point but I could be misremembering. only bug joke I can recall quickly is that his species turns into a swarm of bugs in their old age, which makes it awkward when Amy's parents are swatting parts of Kif's. anyway he's ultimately a Spock joke that he outgrew and has become his own character. he was the misanthropic, beleaguered Spock to Brannigan's egotistical, blowhard Kirk. So he's green and got pointed ears - because Vulcans are notably green-toned (they have green blood instead of red) and the ears are obvious why. The rest of his frogginess was just written in later expand his lore and the writers made it up as they went. At this point, I think they're just enjoying at building it being ever more ridiculously frog-like. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Aug 9, 2023 17:03
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pixaal posted:The N64 game where you throw snowballs at turkeys you can't see until they are basically in your hitbox because the fog is so bad? Exactly. Totally forgot about that, I mean the first RPG one. It's a pretty good table-top RPG parody with lots of Tolkien influence.
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Aug 9, 2023 17:09
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drat, maybe I should use this ignorance as an excuse to rewatch original Futurama.
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Aug 9, 2023 17:16
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anyway Hulurama is watchable so far. I'm no saying it's good or great but I'm not bored or offended. Crypto ep was probably the best I've seen any show handle doing a crypto themed episode (basically just a wild west gold panning parody with crypto instead of gold) I mean it's a low bar but they cleared it.
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Aug 9, 2023 17:20
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Dexter’s Lab had a great DnD episode!
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yeah if you watch the first ep he appears in, the Titanic one, he's mostly just dryly rolling his eyes and sighing at Zapp. Where he ends up - the gentle frogman - comes out later as they kind of play with his character. They made a joke in this new episode with his kids, where they're different physical ages despite being the same age technically and he explains that the temperature of the water they develop in affects how they grow, and makes a throwaway comment that he came from the warmest water, just like the oldest, most awkward one. It's a real clever little line because it works to further explain why he was such an awkward goon at the beginning of he & Amy's relationship and why he does some growing up over the course of the show, because he looks older than he is. He crawled out of a swamp nearly fully-grown and then got yeeted into the world, possibly directly into the military and beside Zapp.
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Aug 9, 2023 17:27
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but why is the other guy's child still the same age
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Ahundredbux posted:but why is the other guy's child still the same age We don't actually know when the various years passed in the show it's never been 1:1 before. Hermes and Farnsworth's kids are made after Kif has the babies. Presumably most of the time passage would have to happen then (so without looking poo poo up I'm thinking Season 2 and Season 4 as roughly when these happened in my head) Now someone pull up IMDB and show me these are actually back to back episodes
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Aug 9, 2023 17:38
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none of the time stuff makes any sense whatsoever so yeah just let that one go. time was frozen, but also, since it's been 20 years since the original Kif getting knocking up episode, they decided to follow through on the '20 years from now' part of it. So Kif's kids kept growing in that swamp as they naturally would to serve this joke/episode, but also Hermes' kid is still the same age as his first appearance bc they were frozen in time or something. I don't know. It all falls apart with all the weird poo poo with time they did in the reboots.
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uh they explicitly said 24 years have passed since season 1, and have consistently kept the in-universe year as the production year + 1000 Dwight is 12 because the character is 12, and he'll stay 12 unless they decide to give him a puberty episode. They might make up a reason like the time fuckery affecting earth but not the swamp planet, but the actual reason is that none of the main cast are ever going to age in a way that affects their character design.
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Yeah ofc they said 23 years have passed and used the chronometer to justify it, but they'd also just been frozen in time (for an unspecified amount of time, as said by the professor) and unfrozen and time revamped. no one has aged, but time has also passed. it's 3023 but they didn't actually age ~20 years since the first season, they've all been preserved by whatever time weirdness they made up and so was everyone else on Earth, so that we can have the exact same cast of characters transported to 'now'. basically it's not going to make sense for the reasons you mentioned, which is that no one's character design is going to change and no one is going to age because it's a sitcom. So it's 3023 but they're also all still almost exactly the same ages as they were in 3003. Time will move for other characters as needed for jokes, such as the babies actually being in the swamp for 20 years. Its best not to think too hard on it because the answer is it's whatever serves the joke best at the time of writing. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Ahundredbux posted:but why is the other guy's child still the same age It's a cartoon
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YeahTubaMike posted:I never made that connection in the prop infinity episode, Amy insults Kif by calling him a spineless jellyfish, and Kif responds that she knows he's more closely related to the sea cucumber. his biological inspirations are not exactly a point of hard canon. or, more succinctly: Budzilla posted:It's a cartoon
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Budzilla posted:It's a cartoon it is ok but they were making such a spectacle about the passage of time
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Aug 9, 2023 19:45
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Dwight ages slower because he's the son of some kind of outer space potato man
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Ahundredbux posted:it is ok but they were making such a spectacle about the passage of time yeh the first new episode's conflict all emerges from Fry not having achieved anything for 23 years, while still being like ~20/30something. it's weird.
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Coolguye posted:in the prop infinity episode, Amy insults Kif by calling him a spineless jellyfish, and Kif responds that she knows he's more closely related to the sea cucumber. his biological inspirations are not exactly a point of hard canon. he should be biologically related to nothing since his species comes from an independent origin of life. I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder
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he's actually a fictional character drawn up by some dorks in a studio, not a real alien though if he's inspired by the sea cucumber, it is criminal that we have yet to see him puke his own rear end in a top hat in anyone's face I thought the new episode was pretty ok, didn't care for the crypto framing but it had some decent gags. Also I think it's the first time someone actually bit Bender's shiny metal rear end?
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:he's actually a fictional character drawn up by some dorks in a studio, not a real alien He's still real to me drat it
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YeahTubaMike posted:drat, maybe I should use this ignorance as an excuse to rewatch original Futurama. sounds like a plan
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its almost like all the characters are fake in this, the thread about a rebooted cartoon show. and truly, what fools have ever found value in discussing, ugh - fictional characters?
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Professor Wayne posted:Dwight ages slower because he's the son of some kind of outer space potato man
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StrangersInTheNight posted:its almost like all the characters are fake in this, the thread about a rebooted cartoon show. and truly, what fools have ever found value in discussing, ugh - fictional characters? cartoons, just like video games, are distractions for particularly slow children
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well you're the rear end in a top hat making fun of slow children while they talk about cartoons, so what does that make you? out here finding children to kick about their interests. I'd rather be slow and kind than whatever that is.
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p sure children shouldn't be posting here tbqh
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I just want to go on the record and state that I have no stake in the fictionality of the show, and am actively against derisively comparing cartoon viewers to slow children. I was merely responding to a pedantic remark with an even more pedantic remark of my own, as a matter of principle.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:well you're the rear end in a top hat making fun of slow children while they talk about cartoons, so what does that make you? out here finding children to kick about their interests. God drat, do you get money every time you make a post decrying anything that could even be remotely interpreted as offensive to someone somewhere? It seems like this is your fucken job at this point.
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The bitcoin episode was just awful. God this show loving sucks poo poo.
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i watched the first few eps of the original run and it stinks
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Sentient Data posted:Has any show done a good D&D/Tolkien parody? They all seem to reach for it but I can't think of a version that's even been above average in quality South Park really nailed it
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roomtone posted:i watched the first few eps of the original run and it stinks Wrong again, idiot
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roomtone posted:i watched the first few eps of the original run and it stinks Weird. I think this is one of the few shows that was strong right off the bat. Normally you have to specify "it starts getting good at ____".
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i haven't watched any of the new season yet so maybe these complaints are reasonable but the more of these i read the more it feels like people just desperately want them to be bad so they can have the vague sense of superiority that comes with passing harsh judgement on something can someone like actually quantify a complaint
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Weird. I think this is one of the few shows that was strong right off the bat. Normally you have to specify "it starts getting good at ____". Episode 2 is still my favorite. "We're whalers on the moon!"
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Coolguye posted:i haven't watched any of the new season yet so maybe these complaints are reasonable but the more of these i read the more it feels like people just desperately want them to be bad so they can have the vague sense of superiority that comes with passing harsh judgement on something The worst thing I can say is that they’re on the weaker side of futurama episodes which is still pretty good. I don’t think I’d even notice but I files’d them at the same time as Beavis and Butthead which is way better than it should be.
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the latest episode was like the others this season: not very special, but not as bad as the worst episodes, and had references to the good original episodes
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