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I'll edit this if it turns into nothing, but the DC J6 Grand Jury meets on Tuesdays and Thursdays. For some reason, all the jurors have left for the day, except for the grand jury foreperson. Possible that an indictment was just voted out, possible that the foreperson is just waiting for an Uber. Guess we'll see!
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CBJSprague24 posted:Voted out as in rejected or voted upon? Voted upon, as in indictment now exists and has left the grand jury. If the grand jury no billed and denied an indictment, by logic the foreperson wouldn't still be around the courthouse. If they indeed indicted, only the foreperson is needed to process the paperwork (theoretically). So likely approved the indictment. But my usual non-talking head legal sources haven't really said anything yet, this is all related from TV lawyer sources, which are meh on good days.
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Update: the sealed indictment is definitely for Donnie, possibly more. That's all we got at the moment. Edit: indictments match the target letter, 4 counts Edit2: six co-conspirators https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1686490787532480512?t=BFDaiqXuLpu-9f-3-KkJ7Q&s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Aug 1, 2023 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:CNN says four counts. Yeah if those co-conspirators get charged, Smith is going for all of the ringleaders. Unclear if they're getting charged though. 6pm statement from Smith
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'll note that the four charges there are not charges that would prevent him from running for president. He could win in a prison cell. Likely any sentence he receives will be stayed until the election, though. Donnie's always been obsessed about everything becoming an up-or-down vote about how awesome he is. With his backing, 2024 is shaping up to be an up-or-down vote about him going to prison or not. Edit: haha Donnie got an Obama judge https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1686492762714120193?t=S0uT3aKjM4dRP-NNPwqX-g&s=19
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CBJSprague24 posted:Trump for Prison Bitch 2024 needs to be a shirt and hat. Lots of freaked-out people scared about the trump-biden 43-43 poll (that's far too early to mean anything at all), and democrats worried about turnout, but an up-or-down vote on that kind of thing will probably do it. THREAD TITLE ALERT https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1686493395252830208?t=5JYuQdyxfuMZm88wlxsGnQ&s=19 "It's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy poo poo beamed down from the mothership" facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Aug 1, 2023 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:
#5 is the Cheeseman: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1686495289023025153?t=o7Hl_CaW6n6cookOwQumzw&s=19 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/25/trump-attorney-fake-electors-subpoena-00053765
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Possible alternate thread title from Mike Fanone: https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1686501079985328128?t=yevBZTV14KUR_szcWGbdaQ&s=19
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Aug 1, 2023 23:19
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Mr. Nice! posted:I've identified a few co-conspirators. A good point from Andrew Weissman on MSNBC, since #6 isn't obvious on the indictment, there's a big fat omission. Where's Mark Meadows? 
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Ginni fits, but it's so goddamn vague that MSNBC is still on an island with that one. Edit: an alternate explanation that would also fit - Boris https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1686524260540424192?t=opHy9fTjBrPLDovukH73ag&s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Aug 2, 2023 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Uh, is there any other confirmation of this? It's wrong. The person was Marc Short, the VP's chief of staff that alerted secret service about his concerns on the 5th. That Xer mistook the president's chief of staff (Meadows) for the VP's (Short).
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Here's a breaking transcript regarding Co-Conspirator #1: https://twitter.com/seth_hettena/status/1686750210180198400?t=c-7Gl4O3eQczowr6UUdUeA&s=19 https://www.businessinsider.com/rud..._medium=twitter quote:Wild transcripts show Rudy Giuliani made lewd comments to his rape accuser, insulted Jewish mens' genitals, and accused Matt Damon of being gay
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My general thought on the matter is that Rudy always got off on his own power, so figured/experienced everyone else getting the same, this why his relationships were always a wreck and in the tabloids. But that's really armchair psychoanalysis that I really don't JEWS HAVE TINIER PENISES THAN ITALIANS BECAUSE JEWS STOP USING THEIR PENISES AFTER MARRIAGE AND ITALIANS NEVER DO SO THEIR PENISES GET BIGGER OVER TIME IT'S NATURAL SELECTION BABY https://twitter.com/JayShams/status/1686635603570327552?t=Uv0ZTBUDbgtRuEIonp3EeQ&s=19
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btw Vinny Mac got raided last month by the feds related to using WWE funds to pay off women he harassed https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wwe-boss-vince-mcmahon-hit-federal-grand-jury-subpoena-search-warrant-rcna97784
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Wombot posted:Does anyone have a good breakdown of the UFO testimony (?) from a few days ago? I'm out of the loop. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/ As solid a breakdown as I've seen. It's catching fire because politicians are using this stuff as a YOU CAN'T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT AND BIDEN IS IN CHARGE OF THE GOVERNMENT YOU SHEEPLE. Before the indictment, poo poo was also generally boring with strikes and not much going on, so lots of people in media and consumer side primed for OMG ALIENS
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uh, it's probably not good that a voting senator doesn't even have her own power of attorney https://twitter.com/metzgov/status/1687096437861920768?t=bnb42S8mvi_nIY7nXLPc8Q&s=19 quote:The two lawsuits were filed by Katherine Feinstein, 66, Senator Feinstein’s only child, who has power of attorney over her mother’s legal affairs. The first lawsuit, over the beach house, says the property is in disrepair, that Senator Feinstein no longer wishes to use it, and that she wants to sell it this summer or fall. And with the Cop Braining Slide video going out everywhere, it's pretty clear the city should just lean in and Action Park the motherfucker: https://twitter.com/MattWBZ/status/1687094161072119808?t=SWP3sBOwwTknV0OmMA4Tiw&s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:CNN says the judge hasn't shown up yet, so Trump is waiting with hands folded and head down and that his attorneys are going to great lengths to hide from reporters what they're saying to him. Zero will happen today, while interest is at a near-high, so: https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1687196542749544448?t=ev9A2gf3REinZ6Z8TCXxQw&s=19 which is turning otherwise smart reporters into this kind of thing because they're going nuts and have to fill time: https://twitter.com/Tierney_Megan/status/1687193193400467456?t=N7I1-cs_aG1JT6k4N1eGMQ&s=19
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oh loving great, now I need to research what the gently caress this is about https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1687560453214396416?t=VmyhPqMLIAvr9quB0FQhbg&s=19 Edit: holy moly they must be pissed about the pac-12 https://twitter.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1687556683575238656?t=p8kXf6LMC7u3j5-xHZEc-g&s=19 Livestream: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/twitch-streamers-giveaway-event-sparks-chaos-in-manhattan-police-try-to-contain/4565539/ Edit2: per NBCNY, Kai Cenat got arrested too, this is the zoomer J6 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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Current event: they really did make baseball fun again https://twitter.com/clintonyates/status/1688002321274572800?t=7bIlJEbJ2kOyEJHdn0M68w&s=19 For your rewatches: watch the ump realize what was about to go down and turn into a referee. Also, watch who throws first and who throws last. And there appears to be no lead-up to this, the Cleveland player got a hit to the corner, beat it out for a double, then they start woofing and a hockey game breaks out.
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shame on an IGA posted:really want to see what happened while they were cut away, ump was already holding TJ back while ramirez got up Here's the Bally's feed with an alternate angle: https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1687991469116731392 Really doesn't seem like much unless Ramirez got pissed his helmet was knocked off on the way in. Might've been something someone said.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Literally posting through it Pence. Donnie's going all brainfart diarrhea to try and get the trial moved (lol no) or the judge changed (LOL NO). bulletsponge13 posted:She posted what seems like reciepts further down- it looks legit It's legit, it was a big thing a while back. Jason Millier (the man with no chin) even tried to give her an abortion pill in a drink or some poo poo. She's been fighting this thing for a long time.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Legal Eagle dropped a video on the latest indictment and made the interesting point that belief and intent mean jack poo poo to these charges. They are purely about what actions were taken and who was involved and what was said. Which, well, it doesn't bode well for Trump. Yeah, that's an accurate reading best as I can tell. It's also completely and utterly different than what you'll hear from Republicans. Also be wary of all the "well it's just free speech and trump can't be charged for that" nonsense you'll hear too. Apparently like one out of the four counts has a high intent requirement, but even that high requirements doesn't mean "well, you have to prove he didn't believe it". That doesn't get him off the hook for the bullshit elector slates that he knew were against the official totals.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Legal Eagle dropped a video on the latest indictment and made the interesting point that belief and intent mean jack poo poo to these charges. They are purely about what actions were taken and who was involved and what was said. Which, well, it doesn't bode well for Trump. Meant to post this earlier, the Popehat podcast is quite good, but here's his write-up in the lens of media lying about the charges: https://popehat.substack.com/p/people-are-lying-to-you-about-the The short version is that it's all about the fraudulent slates of electors which proves the falsity/deceit required. Donnie's dumb brain's mental state isn't really important in the DOJ theory of the case, but they still think he could prove it was corrupt intent based on his statements and all the people telling him he was being a loving idiot until he started listening to kooks. Objecting to the counts on the Senate floor was inbounds (legal process), filing dumb lawsuits was inbounds (legal process), yelling about nonsense was inbounds (1st amendment), but the moment they decided to generate lies and bullshit to specifically deceive the Senate it all went out of bounds and grabbed everything else that flowed from it. The only two relevant cases close to this was in 1960, when there were three elector slates submitted due to timings of recounts in Hawaii genuinely loving with things. No intent to deceive or lies due to everything going fucky. In 2000, Gore stopped once the Supreme Court killed the lawsuits and that was that.
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So apparently there was a brawl yesterday by some good ol' boys that didn't want to move their pontoon boat for a riverboat coming in. The security guard that asked them to move was apparently black, so they didn't like that very much. The key though is that the heels got their comeuppance, though the chairman and many others got arrested. BAH GAWD https://twitter.com/shannonsharpeee/status/1688220213811314688?t=kWHEVnDhkyIGde6ukZuGpA&s=19 https://twitter.com/ThatZoeJames/status/1688452939734540288?t=V3PHwABlmMF2QLWlT19h7Q&s=19 https://www.wsfa.com/2023/08/06/montgomery-riverfront-brawl-leads-multiple-arrests/
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Dunno if this has been answered elsewhere but how does it work if he’s indicted in DC, Florida, & Georgia, trial wise? Would assume there are some fairness rules about how the trials couldn’t be happening at the same time, do the courts just work that out among themselves? I'm not able to find much on quick googling (sample here), but the Michael Avenatti case kind of demonstrates how it usually works. Most federal cases take so loving long to actually get to trial that it's usually not a danger. Since DC needs one set of admitted attorneys, Florida another, and Georgia another, the courts work it out at the prompting of the defense. The key bit are the defense lawyers saying "sorry judge, my client is not available on X dates due to needing to be present for Trial Y". That's absolutely the defense lawyers' job and the courts will give them deference. But "your honor, my client is very busy running a campaign and cannot be present until after 2024" isn't exactly going to earn a court's deference.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:That makes sense. On another note is there a possibility if he gets stupid enough to directly threaten the DC judge that he’ll be locked up for contempt pending trial? Would guess that’s possible for any defendant but he has a ridiculously long leash but there must be a limit. Sadly unlikely. Generally, pretrial detention is only used to ensure someone shows up (if they're a bail-skipper) or to make them stop criming. Donnie's thing is a white-collar case and he's one of the most known people on earth, so a lockup on #1 is unlikely. So that basically puts him in the Sam Bankman-Fried lane. DOJ is constantly going to the court to try and get him locked up for loving around with witnesses and co-conspirators. But, judges are hesitant to use pretrial lockup because innocent until proven guilty  and it's hard to put together a defense with your lawyers when you're locked up.The most I'm hoping for is a gag order of some type, but even that's unlikely. It's more constitutional to use pretrial lockup than gag orders because of the first amendment implications of gag orders. But, Donnie could be stupid enough to tapdance on that line and fall over with some threatening nonsense to the judge or a grand jury member!
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Arrath posted:The one dude swimming from his boat to the dock to join in There are nicknames everywhere online: https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/1688599775296294919?t=hXPYdsnA1YnxM9ZB9AaAgQ&s=19
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CommieGIR posted:Chudge Cannon might already be showing her whole rear end: I've yet to see any solid analysis of what exactly this order is intended to do. Apparently the trump lawyers were going to complain about the dual grand jury thing and now Cannon is bringing it to the forefront? And DOJ was showing that Nauta's attorney might have some conflicts in secret motions that Cannon tossed. Whole thing's weird. Have to always remember that the DOJ is still the DOJ, so it's not like they're inherently good people. Hoping popehat and company come out with analysis soon. maffew buildings posted:I am not good at parsing legalese and all of that, can someone please help me understand which of these charges could result in no poo poo consequences that would result in things like Trump not being able to run again, etc? Completely ignore the NY case. That's probably a fine and suspended sentence at most. White collar first-timers generally don't get jail in cases like those. Both federal cases are basically 5-10 year sentences based on sentencing guidelines. Neither case is going to qualify as insurrection/rebellion and you can run for president as a felon, so disqualification is not on the table. No idea about the GA case until it gets announced, potentially sometime this week.
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CBJSprague24 posted:I don't want to spoil any of the best lines of dialogue, but holy loving gently caress that was good commentary the add-on commentaries are almost never good, but that poo poo had me choking
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Haven't seen an alternate source yet, so here's what apparently set off the Montgomery brawl, courtesy of WORLD STAR The security guard was on board a dinner boat that needed to pull into the pontoon boat's spot. Pontoon boat racists were told not to dock there, but they still did. So security guard leaves the dinner boat and unties the pontoon boat, drawing in the racists. The dinner boat people continue to heckle the racists while the security guard is yelling at them. That's why the security guard looked at the camera (the dinner boat) when he tossed his hat. That's also likely where Scuba Gooding Jr. came from - might've been a boat-jumper.
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ASAPI posted:I want the judge to go with this. If this is "thinly veiled", Trump's tweets must be public admissions of guilt. DOJ response: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.15.0_2.pdf A recap of the DOJ position: donnie's lawyer won't shut up [examples] and they'll leak discovery everywhere [examples] to try this case in the media [examples]. Deny their motion, adopt ours, and we shouldn't even need to orally argue this one."
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Dave said the thing, so all that's left is to figure out the font size on the "lol lmao" Probably around 72 by the way the vote totals are going. Just absolutely dumpstered.
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Yeah, around the country states have been figuring out just how to legalize weed, with some rich fucks absolutely steering some of the amendment/legal language to make sure there's a Big Weed and they're in charge of the conglomerate. Even in the looser areas, there's going to be a lot of consolidation in the near future. The market basically did a "good" capitalism and the weed got so cheap that it's putting some dispensaries out of business. On the other hand, that's partly because rich fucks are throwing in bajillions at a loss (like sports gambling companies) so that they'll be the only one left standing and do a "bad capitalism" to jack up the prices.stackofflapjacks posted:This commentary had me crying laughing, sweating and just dying. Thanks I needed that Here's a less-funny-but-still-good breakdown of the baseball fight, with a focus on what actually happened post-punch. https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1688742003163410432 There was a lot of good stuff I didn't know about post punch. Tim Anderson was basically tackled and held up by teammates twice to keep him out, random players got lightly hurt, and Ramirez was on 2nd base at the end like he wasn't going to get kicked out. Also, Anderson got suspended for 6 games and Ramirez only got 3. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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That Works posted:Pretty sure we heard about the "That’s why there’s an Insurrection Act." bit like a week or two ago though, and this is just another piece of someone reacting to that statement. Yeah, nothing new here. But for content, there's a mega crossover event podcast that was just released today: https://twitter.com/ShutdownFullcas/status/1689251288574246913?t=0VyV2vuqqHQYGwzTszJCwA&s=19 The Shutdown Fullcast (sports... ish?) brought on Charles Star (rip Mic Dicta) to break down some truly terrible political football play diagrams. A contributor to why so many chuddy conservatives yell about sports so much - they have no idea what the loving rules are!
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