How many of this month's B-league main eventers do you recognize without googling? This poll is closed. |
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Logan Storley | 16 | 9.20% | |
Brennan Ward | 17 | 9.77% | |
Chingiz Allazov | 13 | 7.47% | |
Marat Grigorian | 7 | 4.02% | |
Bubba Jenkins | 21 | 12.07% | |
Jesus Pinedo | 4 | 2.30% | |
Renan Ferreira | 7 | 4.02% | |
Maurice Greene | 24 | 13.79% | |
Clay Collard | 22 | 12.64% | |
Shane Burgos | 43 | 24.71% | |
Total: | 46 votes |
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Digital Jedi posted:https://twitter.com/marcraimondi/status/1686420025291296797?s=20 Thinking about what would cause that when wearing good headgear, which might not stop a concussion but should spread out the pressure of a blow quite a bit. Maybe a grappling round and slipped and slammed into a knee?
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 19:41 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 16:38 |
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mewse posted:I don't know *why* MMA guys are allergic to head gear but at the boxing gym everyone would be wearing headgear except the pro MMA guys Is it restrictive for full rules with grappling? I have trouble enough seeing enough of someone’s legs and knees with a nosebar headgear. But even in what caught Kelvin, wear some elbow pads, drat.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 22:58 |
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That’s awesome data. I wish there was a version of just the last 10 years, to see how much the top chokes reorder.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 06:55 |
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Mekchu posted:huh? Yah, are you making fun of him, or?
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2023 14:59 |
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Grem posted:Alright I'll defer to goons, was it exciting like you guys said it would be, or boring like I thought it would be? I'll watch it later, maybe. It was a curiosity to see if Jake Paul would gas out before the end and get overtaken by a gassed Diaz. Had a knockdown that was more sad than thrilling.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 08:53 |
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Bisping was even on Cruz’s side about it, noting not every good performance is going to have the audience cheering. Sandhagen said he tore his tricep early, and the audience still didn’t cut him any slack at the post fight interview.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 20:36 |
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blue footed boobie posted:Paul is about as good as a semi-pro boxer, which it turns out is a pretty high level among mma fighters. He’s not fought any prime striking-centric mma fighters. Which is fine from a protecting his brand perspective, but it hasn’t settled anything for people who want to see his rear end beat. Also, not every athletic person has that kind of power.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 20:48 |
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Stealth Tiger posted:fantasy-posting about how Nate would shoot on Jake. He did though.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2023 23:13 |
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Photoshop that guy a sandwich, drat.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2023 08:07 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:He did better than I expected after the rd1 knockdown and actually had Paul in trouble in places If all fights started with a Slap Fight like concussion for warmup, the Diaz brothers would clean up.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2023 17:01 |
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CarlCX posted:I remember that the group of internet fight nerds I ran around with would joke that he should fight the similarly-new-at-the-time Jon Jones because the two names combined to make a semi-obscure comic book gag that was much less clever than we thought it was. Yeah, some here, rocco tuna?, joked about Jon Jones, “lol the UFC signed the Martian Manhunter” But then his performances quickly outstripped any jokes about his name.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2023 02:55 |
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Sadly, Lewis 'manager works out of the back of the garage.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2023 03:59 |
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What happened with Serra-Longo? I haven’t followed that team or Weidman’s training closely. Did Serra retire?cagliostr0 posted:I would quite like to see both O'Malley and Sterling gently caress off back to their home planets and have somebody like merab or Umar be the champion. I wonder which man has the least regressive views on gender. Aljo showed himself with the insult on O’Malley.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 15:39 |
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I don't think Weidman trains at Longo's anymore. I think he moved to a different state. Hunh, I knew e: Wonderboy's brother married his sister, but I didn't know it affected his camp affilition like that. Wonderboy is pretty active on "training martial arts" Youtube, and their gym is a lot of people who have solid facsimiles of his sport karate style. Obviously, since his dad is the head coach. I'm curious how much that would have changed/affected Weidman's striking. BlindSite posted:Probably don't google the Nurmagomedov's views on things if you're upset about Magny's views lol. Oh I'm caught up. As I've said before, send me all the "fighters are bad people in real life" updates. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Aug 19, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 19, 2023 06:54 |
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mewse posted:huh? Yeah, I edited with the corrected familial info -- it's Wonderboy's brother and Weidman's sister.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2023 07:17 |
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Not many comments but at least they’re all clued in.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2023 19:13 |
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> White on a possible Weili vs. Xiaonan fight in China sometime in the near future: "Probably." Should time it around Song Yadong's recovery. Tho tbh, I don't think it'd matter what the undercard was. The gate would be huge no matter what.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 08:24 |
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Volkova III posted:Been awhile, but it feels like that should've kept going. Which that?
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 19:07 |
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Both knockdowns there illustrate what happens if you’re short on reach and decide to stop your offense with your head right there. It’s crazy and disappointing that a grappling oriented fighter of Aljo’s caliber can still make that mistake.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 21:20 |
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Aljo going up in weight really fucks with his legacy imo. They’re gonna protect O’Malley from Merab even if he’s now unclogged to fight.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2023 21:30 |
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beep by grandpa posted:The petr yan decision was bullshit but wasn't ultimately up to dana Even so, the promotion could have accepted the eye test of that fight as a check to O’Malley’s momentum. Their matchmaking and hype has done worse in terms of being arbitrary over decisions. It’s just how Dana operates to ignore calls of robbery and proceed with what is convenient to the plan.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 00:30 |
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Merab, like many people whose name ends in -shvili, is from Georgia. e: awww man, taking informational Ls all week -- I didn't consider Georgia to be in the Caucasus, even though it's north of Armenia.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2023 05:37 |
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This whole period was such a rich vein of excellent fights and incredible memes. JaySB (a Vegas regular) would post inside scoop stuff about Cody's personal life's effect on his mental state, though in that period he always seemed to be fine in terms of gameplan and chin. DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Renan Barao started his career 32-1 and was incredibly exciting and quick, like a mini Jose Aldo from the same camp. He was also THE FUTURE, with great striking, a great gas tank, and great takedown defense. He beat erstwhile uncrowned champ Urijah Faber twice, including finishing him, but then fought Dillashaw at the height of his juicing-and-Duane-Ludwig powers. Dillashaw beat the absolute poo poo out of him twice and made Barao look like a b-league can, and Barao then did his best BJ Penn impersonation and lost to guys like, uh, Luke Sanders. And Andre Ewell. And Brian Kelleher over the next 5 years.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2023 06:21 |
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It's too bad that fighters are too dumb and too tied to the income to collectivize and go on strike.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2023 17:48 |
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Weili tried to throw the Devil horns but turned it into a webshooter dealie https://i.imgur.com/ETf4mWi.mp4
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2023 22:02 |
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Quick refresher on male champ ages Holloway tears up about Lahaina: https://youtu.be/X7f3AcOH-i4?si=pIpQ4CcFEm59dski Before this he mentioned the “UFC <3 Hawaii” effort, and I don’t have the naive optimism to go read what that is.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2023 08:59 |
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Honestly one of the more impressive physique non-transformations.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2023 19:44 |
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As I tenuously understand it, he only had one kid, so might be from a past relationship.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2023 19:49 |
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This is probably the biggest sponsorship coup for any brand in the last quarter century https://youtu.be/7Zggju941Qs?si=nbiWK5imYFKGSiKq
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2023 05:21 |
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Clipped the end of the Max x TKZ fight when Zombie is wrapping up and walking out of the cage for the last time: [this has sound but it might not embed that way] https://i.imgur.com/1jPHXEJ.mp4 The crowd picking up the chorus of the song as he walks out the door and gets the spotlight is incredible. It's kinda rare that there's anything cinematic outside the cage, but this one gave me goosebumps. Longer version: https://streamable.com/3f0n60
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2023 09:25 |
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Marching Powder posted:as he walked out of the cage and i heard the crowd i didn't feel very alone. It was a great song before, but that moment when he left the cage a hero, it became TKZ's song.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 13:28 |
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Need a rundown of all past times where Dana has been ok with this. Not necessarily title implications, but top 5-10. My gut says 2-3?
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2023 18:50 |
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Brut posted:particularly as Aljo was talking so much about moving to 145 after that last fight. Did he confirm that? I only remember him saying he had to rethink things in the post fight interview.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2023 22:12 |
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The UFC put out a terrible YT short of TKZ's walk out of the cage, in that stupid vertical format so he's not even in frame for part of the critical moment. It does stay on the main camera longer, but that even takes away from the magic of people singing Zombie in the stands. and despite all that, it has the most views of the recent wave of shorts except for Anthony Smith standing over Ryan Spann. The popular tab of shorts is mostly Power Slap. I uploaded my streamable copy to YT; dunno how long this'll last. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZsRT1D6Em0
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 09:03 |
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Jerusalem posted:Watching that beautiful video again (thanks kimbo!), it didn't strike me till the very end when they start talking again that the commentators very smartly shut the gently caress up and just let the moment speak for itself. I feel like Rogan and Felder had pushed off, leaving Fitzgerald by himself. And all the better for him to exercise judgment alone, for sure.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 09:36 |
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Lol, I didn't know Scott Fujita did the Chinese martial arts salute to celebrate tackles
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 18:35 |
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Clinch rules mean you always have the closer range to work in. I don't really see much karate competition, but even in Kyokushin, they don't seem to get time to work indefinitely in the clinch. I've hardly seen any continuous rules competition that allows punches to the head. I think largely it's just the background of the competitors. They're used to damage over cleanness of strikes as scoring criteria, so can't adjust their style overnight.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 16:33 |
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mewse posted:Does Karate allow knees and elbows? Depends on the ruleset. Kyokushin allows elbows but stays consistent in prohibiting elbows to the head. The applications are fighting against a clinch / trapping and "judo chopping" the collarbone. Knees are legal in KK. Shumagorath posted:Plus Muay Thai has fouls for a bunch of the good takedowns / sweeps iirc. I teach sanshou, and occasionally a student more familiar with MT will ask what differences there are in throw legality. After doing some research on it, add best as I can tell, what you'll get docked for isn't as rigid as the written rules would suggest. Philosophically, you could summarize as: - it better not look like judo. In the same way that judo has limited things over time to preserve some aesthetic standard, MT had the same reaction to contact with throws from other arts - you can get away with it if it looked cool or if you're a favorite/ the Thai fighter But yeah, hip throws, lifting completely off the feet, and back of leg to back of leg reaps being disallowed take away a lot of options. Of course it's still great to see what you can do within the MT framework. I'm gonna watch more Karate Combat and digest. It's just one karate ruleset but certainly worth understanding given that it's a combat sorry meant to be entertaining.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 17:16 |
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Brut posted:lmao what? I can't think of any elbows I've seen standing to anything but the head, maybe on the ground in like side control I've seen elbows to the ribs, but even then that's about it. Specific to a KK ruleset, if you can't use your arms to strike the head, then close range work lets you cheat and lower your guard in front of your chest as a passive defense. Active close fighting is just two people drilling each other in the chest. If you stall with putting your guard there, a fighter could try to mix it up by pushing off of you and throwing an axe kick or high kick over the guard, or a spinning kick under the guard. Or, you can use elbows to clear that lowered guard, bashing one of the forearms out of the way so you can continue hammering at the chest. Overhand or up elbow to knock the arm out of position, spinning elbow to the arms, horizontal elbow just to hurt em.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 17:23 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 16:38 |
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So look at your table and see what you can use to hold in your hands. Even this Tabasco bottle! Just poosh deir head down, and go BANG! BING! KADANG KADANG!
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 17:36 |