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Conflicting reports, but I'll think about it. Right now I'm bouncing around between armies and trying to figure out what I want from 40K. I still love the idea of imperial guard and a proper wargame, but that's not what 40K seems to be about, as I mentioned before it still feels kinda depressing to play them win or lose. I'm sure guard is still fine and they can do well, but it's not quiet the close range charge distance sort of game that everyone seems to want to play. Edit: I understand that they have the tools to deal with a lot of situations, but I also understand that after three games I barely know anything and can't make good use of all those tools in every situation. Lostconfused fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Scorpions are actually kinda good, especiallly if you kitbash one of them to be Karen Draws, the Pheonix Lord. They can infiltrate (start in no man’s land) and they do lots of mostly unblockable dev wounds. You made me look up if the Eldar actually had a Phoenix Lord named Karen, who I assumed had a "I need to talk to your farseer" haircut.
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Lostconfused posted:Conflicting reports, but I'll think about it. Basically I feel like all the armies of 40K can be aligned on three different spectrums of play. Do you want your army to be more elite or more horde? Do you want to shoot or get into melee? Do you want to play straightforward or have a lot of tricks? There’s variance because detachments exist, and basically every army has some shooting or melee or tricks, but pretty much every army is defined by their combined position on those three spectrums. Custodes are an elite, melee, straightforward army. Orks are a horde, melee, straightforward army. Aeldari are an elite-ish shooting army with lots of tricks. Armies with detachments, like Necrons or Space Marines, have more varied answers because like Ironstorm Black Templars are very different from Gladius Black Templars. (But also the Space Marine answer to the above three questions is “yes.”) It’s not a perfect scale but it has really helped friends of mine quickly pick an army when I’ve taught the game on TTS or with a faction I own.
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Lostconfused posted:Conflicting reports, but I'll think about it. I think you are having a normal time with learning to play - try to remember 'The Rule of Cool' and remember it's just a game. If your little plastic dollies look the way you want you're all set
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Had an idea for using Eliminators to make an Intercession Kill Team, backburnered it for a bit, then just came back to it and wrapped it up this week.
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Lostconfused posted:Looking at Eldar lists and it's all swooping hawks and war spiders. But what if I think striking scorpions and banshees look better? Scorpions can make a good unit taking advantage of their infiltrate, but banshees feel real awful in this index and will probably get whomped by most other factions dedicated melee troops, combination of too fragile and not killy enough. Spiders and Hawks are used so much because they have great mobility for playing objectives and surprisingly potential shooting with lethal hits/devastating wounds.
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I can't find any rules about this but i just want to make sure. Dedicated anti-air weapons (i.e. weapons that are good against fliers but worse against everything else) aren't a thing anymore, right? I ask because the icarus array+daedalus launcher seems like a good weapon choice for an onager dunecrawler that wants to focus more on anti-infantry, rather than using the neutron laser for anti-tank. But I seem to recall that weapon choice taking some sort of penalty against ground targets in a previous version of the game. Is that rule just gone? sharkmafia fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Mar 27, 2024 19:32
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Whats the new thread title referencing?
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Al-Saqr posted:Whats the new thread title referencing? a fatguy baldspot posted:Scorpions are actually kinda good, especiallly if you kitbash one of them to be Karen Draws, the Pheonix Lord. They can infiltrate (start in no man’s land) and they do lots of mostly unblockable dev wounds. Karandras (translation, "The Shadow Hunter") is the Eldar Phoenix Lord of the Striking Scorpions Aspect.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Karandras (translation, "The Shadow Hunter") is the Eldar Phoenix Lord of the Striking Scorpions Aspect. Lol thanks when you think about it Banshees are Karens Drawing their swords.
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I'd like to speak to your Autarch
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sharkmafia posted:I can't find any rules about this but i just want to make sure. AFAICT AA weapons now have Anti-Flyer and are better at hitting flyers rather than worse at hitting everything else.
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Tangy Zizzle posted:I think you are having a normal time with learning to play - try to remember 'The Rule of Cool' and remember it's just a game. If your little plastic dollies look the way you want you're all set Yeah but playing a fun game or having an idea to work towards really helps get that motivation to work on and paint an army going.
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yeah totally I started guard at the start of the pandemic and collected for over a year without playing, it's definitely something to get used to It also might be that your game group isn't gelling yet, it'll come together! get some more reps in, try some different unit combos, good luck!
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Minor Sisters of Battle Rhino question. Can it only have either the hunter seeker missile or the twin bolt gun, but not both? Bought a Sisters of Battle combat patrol at the start of the year and am starting to assemble it.
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I thought you could trick them out like a lottery winner at the Cadillac dealership
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Laughing Zealot posted:Minor Sisters of Battle Rhino question. Can it only have either the hunter seeker missile or the twin bolt gun, but not both?
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Nessus posted:If I'm reading their index right, you get both, however the missile only has one shot per battle. Has 10th edition moved away from what you see is what you get on the models somewhat, or am I hallucinating that? Kind of yes, in that people are going to take all the free stuff even if it wasn’t modelled. All my guard tanks have hunter killers/heavy stubbers I never bothered gluing on when they cost points, my plague champion’s bolters are all plasma guns and all my GSC acolytes have autopistol shaped hand flamers now, stuff like that.
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ro5s posted:Kind of yes, in that people are going to take all the free stuff even if it wasn’t modelled. All my guard tanks have hunter killers/heavy stubbers I never bothered gluing on when they cost points, my plague champion’s bolters are all plasma guns and all my GSC acolytes have autopistol shaped hand flamers now, stuff like that.
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ro5s posted:Kind of yes, in that people are going to take all the free stuff even if it wasn’t modelled. All my guard tanks have hunter killers/heavy stubbers I never bothered gluing on when they cost points, my plague champion’s bolters are all plasma guns and all my GSC acolytes have autopistol shaped hand flamers now, stuff like that. Oh, that's allowed even for official/sanctioned stuff? Obviously nobody gives a poo poo whether you actually have all your stubbers modeled in casual games but GW seems like the type to be a stickler for that I've been using spare parts from my skorpius disintegrator kits to model the stubbers i, similarly, did not bother putting on my dunecrawlers back when they cost points. i guess it's fine either way
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It's a good opportunity to kitbash some weird new guns onto your tanks and such. I find it so odd that hunter-killer missiles are just kinda standard now. Maybe that's just oldhammer brain. Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Am I going to catch poo poo for using a two headed fateweaver as an LoC in tournaments? I'm kinda just assembling my greater daemons to look cool. It's going to suck if I have to buy a double one day just for WYSIWYG
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Tzeentch is all about consistency and conforming to regulations.
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just important to have a way to remember that you have/haven't fired your hunter killer yet so your opponent can easily tell
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yeah lord of change has this weird obsession with order couldnt possibly deviate from the norm. how dare you
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Just say that one of the heads is vestigial.
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Athas posted:Tzeentch is all about consistency and conforming to regulations. You can't spell Tzeentch without OSHA
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hell yeah i'm into OSHA khOrne Slaanesh tzeentcH nurgle's gf ishA
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Appropriate that you can spell Nurgle without OSHA
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's a good opportunity to kitbash some weird new guns onto your tanks and such. Growing up reading 3rd/4th edition before this latest round of interest, it fucks with my head that all these wargear options are technically free, and also that I can't cost out models individually. I have a near aneurysm whenever I look at my Guard index and have to cope with the fact that I can't fill a Chimera or Valkyrie to capacity without overcosting the unit for choices that aren't 10 guardsmen and 2 leader models. But then I read the Stormlord and its absolutely silly 40 model capacity with Firing Deck 24. That warms my heart. I'm not sure how great that would actually be on the tabletop, haven't actually played once in my life yet. But it's funny. Tangy Zizzle posted:just important to have a way to remember that you have/haven't fired your hunter killer yet so your opponent can easily tell The main reason I want to model all the greebly wargear is to do stupid poo poo with magnets if I'm being honest. Yeah let me fire this hunter killer and pull it off the model because magnets. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that's cool, but I don't care they're my toys I can do what I want. Warmachine fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Warmachine posted:The main reason I want to model all the greebly wargear is to do stupid poo poo with magnets if I'm being honest. Yeah let me fire this hunter killer and pull it off the model because magnets. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that's cool, but I don't care they're my toys I can do what I want. No magnets are cool I’m similarly into magnetizing everything.
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Magnets are cool and I love to fiddle with them, but I hate how it increases the chances of my miniature exploding if I handle it incorrectly.
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Free wargear is mostly a good thing. The only value in paying 5 points for a HK or plasma pistol is to use up leftover points in a list or to remove them to free up points for something you actually care about. There are cases where the free wargear actually works, Bolter vs Plasma Inceptors or the gun on the Castigator for example. There are also cases where they don't like Heavy Bolter vs Lascannon Havocs where they should split the datasheet out like they did with Crisis Suits.
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How do the Votann and Imperium get along in the lore? I know Squats used to occupy some weird space where they were sorta/not totally part of the Imperium and I'm curious how much of that (if any) carried over.
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Votann aren't fan of the Imperium, but they can still do some trading or mercenary work with them. No fans of the AdMech either for that part. Meanwhile the Imperium seems them either as abhumans or just another Xenos empire.
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And the Votann play up the Xenos belief from the Imperium to avoid getting dragged into their bullshit.
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Beaucoup Cuckoo posted:Am I going to catch poo poo for using a two headed fateweaver as an LoC in tournaments? I'm kinda just assembling my greater daemons to look cool. It's going to suck if I have to buy a double one day just for WYSIWYG Make a greenstuff bird hood to cover one of the heads when it's a normal LoC
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Warmachine posted:The main reason I want to model all the greebly wargear is to do stupid poo poo with magnets if I'm being honest. Yeah let me fire this hunter killer and pull it off the model because magnets. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that's cool, but I don't care they're my toys I can do what I want. I magnatized the middle on a chimera I'm.builfimg and I'm looking forward to plucking it off and yeeting it straight into my opponents army getting me kicked out of the game store for life.
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Wrr posted:I magnatized the middle on a chimera I'm.builfimg and I'm looking forward to plucking it off and yeeting it straight into my opponents army getting me kicked out of the game store for life. At least fill it with lead fishing weights to give it some heft if you are going to go to the trouble.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:And the Votann play up the Xenos belief from the Imperium to avoid getting dragged into their bullshit.
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