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Al-Saqr posted:are there even rules in the Tau Codex for Human Auxilaries? There were some Chapter Approved rules way back in 3rd-4th Ed times but they haven't been an 'official, on the table' thing for a while. Mostly it feels like GW hasn't come up with a niche for them that isn't 'Fire Warriors, but worse' or 'Kroot Carnivores, but worse', since bundling a Gue'Vesa conversion sprue of techy Tau bits with a Cadian box like the Brood Brothers kit would be an easy addition. sharkmafia posted:human auxiliaries would probably just use fire warrior rules, i think ive seen a tau army with that conversion before This is the way that most Gue'Vesa conversion projects get used on the table, yes. There's enough compatibility between the Fire Warrior and Guard kits (though a bit less so with some of the newer kits) that you can switch the parts in and out without it being too much of a headache. Would be just as viable to use them in-game as an Astra Militarum army though with some Tau symbols converted or painted in, and go down the route of "just because we all defected to the Greater Good and got some new bits of uniform doesn't necessarily mean they gave us access to the more powerful guns". Lostconfused posted:I haven't looked at how to play Tau at all though, so right now I'm thinking off proxying Tau for guard so swap in a Crisis Suit for a Scout Sentinel Funny you should say Sentinels, since I used them as the basis for my Crisis Suit conversions:  I went to the full extreme with this army of using the Tau rules as a template for "a bunch of high tech gun-focused nerds in battlemechs" but removing the T'au models from the equation entirely, sourcing the parts for the conversions from literally anywhere else in the GW model range, and writing them up as a lost human civilization coming back with bigger guns to reclaim what the Imperium took from them. I have 4000pts or so of this absolute madness built with a goal to get it all painted by the end of the year:  I will make some sort of effortpost about this one day. Lostconfused posted:Playing Imperial Guard instead of Astra Miletarum because it's T'au Empire For The Greater Guard!
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Roller Coast Guard posted:There were some Chapter Approved rules way back in 3rd-4th Ed times but they haven't been an 'official, on the table' thing for a while. Mostly it feels like GW hasn't come up with a niche for them that isn't 'Fire Warriors, but worse' or 'Kroot Carnivores, but worse', since bundling a Gue'Vesa conversion sprue of techy Tau bits with a Cadian box like the Brood Brothers kit would be an easy addition. drat this fuckin owns. Incredibly cool stuff
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StashAugustine posted:Yeah I'm not sure we need another "guardsmen but slightly different" team but if we do they'd be a great fit guardsmen/stormtroopers with a gimmick is KT's sweet spot. they could keep adding them forever as long as the gimmick is interesting and the models are cool. novitates do not play like breachers, which do not play like kasrkin, which do not play like exaction, which do not play like scouts, which do not play like blooded, which do not play like chaos cult, which do not play like wyrmblade, which does not play like vet guard. and all of these are basically-humans who have carapace or flak armor.
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Those battlemech humans look seriously cool! Please do show us some more detailed pictures. --- I recently played a couple of 1k games with my old mech inf IG, and it became abundantly clear that they simply cannot operate without free hunter-killer missiles. They still might be terrible with slightly improved AT capability, but maybe slightly less so? I went digging through my bitz and found a surprising number, enough to equip my Sentinels and Chimera. Converting the Chimeras to fit the older box launchers requires a bit of work, given that there's no space to mount them to the turret directly. I finished the rough build for support struts, should be mostly fun detailing from this point onward. I'm pretty happy with the design. 
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Axetrain posted:Graham McNeil writes dumb schlock but I like him anyway. they all do. it's fine.
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Guy Haley deserves a medal for making Guilliman an interesting and likable character, that had the potential to go real bad.
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Stephenls posted:Fair. Book title: False Gods Chapter title: Fallen god Final words in the chapter: "Horus fell" 
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Lostconfused posted:Book title: False Gods False Gods isn’t the worst book in the heresy series but it’s the worst one that has anything relevant happening in it.
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Still slowly assembling all my Orks. I built a squad of Boyz using the 2018 box where it was still glue-together and it was a real pleasure, there were a lot of fun options (besides the heads, which were a bit repetitive, but I have so many Ork heads now I’ll avoid that in the future) to make them feel distinctive by choosing the way I wanted to assemble them. By contrast the snap together guys have really nice molds and details but seem to lack that customizable bits generating component. I dunno why but snapping together stuff feels a bit strange returning to the hobby having only ever glued guys together before with a few exceptions here or there
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Professor Shark posted:Honestly I like the Play On philosophy of dice telling stories- in this case, the Emperor shone upon his transhuman sons against the traitorous/ heretical Guard unit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi_MpZxLPFM&t=4501s hobby gamer corner over here Which kind of ties into this as well, where a disabled or immobilized state gives a gameplay reason to still have a piece left on the table despite being kind of removed from play. Der Waffle Mous posted:30k sadly made dreadnoughts effectively monsters so nobody new will ever know the joys of the argument of "what are the firing arcs on an immobilized dreadnought?" Lostconfused fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Roller Coast Guard posted:There were some Chapter Approved rules way back in 3rd-4th Ed times but they haven't been an 'official, on the table' thing for a while. Mostly it feels like GW hasn't come up with a niche for them that isn't 'Fire Warriors, but worse' or 'Kroot Carnivores, but worse', since bundling a Gue'Vesa conversion sprue of techy Tau bits with a Cadian box like the Brood Brothers kit would be an easy addition. I suppose between the Van Saar and now Solar Auxilia there’s a lot more options for converting Gue’Vesa. I can’t see any Kroot proxies there, unless I missed them - if you ever go down that route (assuming you don’t just want to use actual Kroot as mercenaries) maybe converting some Fellgor Ravagers? After all if there are humans there’s probably also abhumans.
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Frog Act posted:Still slowly assembling all my Orks. I built a squad of Boyz using the 2018 box where it was still glue-together and it was a real pleasure, there were a lot of fun options (besides the heads, which were a bit repetitive, but I have so many Ork heads now I’ll avoid that in the future) to make them feel distinctive by choosing the way I wanted to assemble them. By contrast the snap together guys have really nice molds and details but seem to lack that customizable bits generating component. I dunno why but snapping together stuff feels a bit strange returning to the hobby having only ever glued guys together before with a few exceptions here or there
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The Deleter posted:I don't know where people rate Josh Reynolds because I read Soul Wars and it was dreck. Granted he was working with the blank slate of the Stormcast instead of the 40+ years of space marines or whatever, but it was just intermenable poo poo happening for way too long and then it ended very suddenly in the middle of the big final battle. This is a bad thing to judge him by imo, it was a launch box tie-in novel. Even by the standards of BL, they’re consciously product driven. One of the authors apparently described writing them as submitting an invoice with a novel attached. Reynolds actually raised the bar for those novels somewhat with Soul Wars but a far better place to give him a fair shake would be his Fabius Bile books, they’re a lot of fun and have better humour than most 40k stuff.
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The marines in Salvation's Reach are my favourite depictions. Three hyperfocused weirdos with their own little quirks that have little to no interest in human niceties.
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Eej posted:Snap together becomes glue together once you start snipping off pegs! Lol literally the first thing I did on the Warboss model was accidentally chop off the peg intended for the left arm pauldron, thinking it was part of the sprue. Managed to avoid that for the rest of the guy but gluing that bit on/sanding down the nub was easy enough Mercurius posted:That's when you realise you can start slicing, sawing and rearranging the push-fit stuff using the other multi-part kit to customise them however you want them. It's particularly thematic with Orks and there's a really great Kitbashing and Conversions thread to help you get started. Thanks! It’s a bummer that my initial instinct seems to mostly be the accurate and I’m not missing something obvious about the way the boxes are formatted. It seems like a net loss to the overall coolness of the army since every squad of Boyz produced by less capable hobbyists like me will naturally look identical instead of distinctive like with the old boxes. Definitely gonna emphasize buying old Orks first before anything else and check out that thread Also are they bigger? I know a Warboss should be larger than a Nob but he’s SO MUCH bigger than my 2018 era box of Nobz it feels like maybe the scale is slightly larger
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Frog Act posted:Lol literally the first thing I did on the Warboss model was accidentally chop off the peg intended for the left arm pauldron, thinking it was part of the sprue. Managed to avoid that for the rest of the guy but gluing that bit on/sanding down the nub was easy enough There's been a general scale hike across the game since Primaris marines appeared, sadly meganobz are from 2014 so they missed out. For my orks I started out with two squads of the new boyz along with two boxes of the old models. They mix together well enough and that's enough to build out 3 choppa and 1 shoota units, with plenty of spare bits to break up any duplicate poses. A lot of ork players are convinced that the pushfit stuff from the last combat patrol was originally designed for a new edition starter box that got canned in favour of Necrons/Tyranids. That would explain why they decided to keep the old boyz kit around as a stopgap.
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Tangy Zizzle posted:playing a couple of games (against death guard and custodes) with this list tomorrow: Well, I lost a close battle with Death Guard - by 3 points, that really came down to my push to score assassination falling short. I think I did everything right otherwise, it was a tough list and I managed to get my shooting where it needed to be 'mostly'. I got completely flattened by Custodes - at one point I think I managed to line up all of my shooting on one unit of wardens - and did like 2 wounds? That 4+ Invuln and 4+ FNP really was clutch. I would have done better avoiding shooting completely and used movement blocking to score.
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Lostconfused posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi_MpZxLPFM&t=4501s hobby gamer corner over here Lol, I knew I recognized that artwork. Love Cole Werhle. StashAugustine posted:Yeah I'm not sure we need another "guardsmen but slightly different" team but if we do they'd be a great fit If nothing else, it’d be a great opportunity to make an Auxiliary Killteam. Throw in a vespid and some never-before-seen bruiser type alien and you’d have a unique group. Maybe a Ranghon or a Galg for a real suicide squad vibe. Triskelli fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Roller Coast Guard posted:This is the way that most Gue'Vesa conversion projects get used on the table, yes. There's enough compatibility between the Fire Warrior and Guard kits (though a bit less so with some of the newer kits) that you can switch the parts in and out without it being too much of a headache. Would be just as viable to use them in-game as an Astra Militarum army though with some Tau symbols converted or painted in, and go down the route of "just because we all defected to the Greater Good and got some new bits of uniform doesn't necessarily mean they gave us access to the more powerful guns". I'd love to do a Gue'Vesa army; Guard with Tau weapons. "Counts as," dammit. Roller Coast Guard posted:I will make some sort of effortpost about this one day. Please do! Cessna fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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xtothez posted:There's been a general scale hike across the game since Primaris marines appeared, sadly meganobz are from 2014 so they missed out. Ah that makes me feel less crazy, I’ve never really seen it explicitly acknowledged but it’s strange how newer models seem to be larger, more detailed, and significantly less, like, modelable? Though I suspect that’s just cus these are intended for, like you said, start sets and I was relieved to learn just now that the old Boyz are staying in circulation so these weird snap fit big fellas will just add some nice variety to the green tide instead of coming to define it in a way that makes them homogeneous I’ve got the combat patrol and a box of old boyz plus lots of bits from Stormboyz and the Kill Team. Probably get another box of 2018 boyz and build them before painting these new ones to maximize my bits and individuality, thus hopefully circumventing the monopose dullness a bit I also just bought the snotling blood bowl team to try to teach myself some kitbashing basics, since I’ll probably never get to play 40k for real I’m maximizing modeling and display fun and reckon snotlings with stupid pump wagons will be a delightful addition
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I’m on my third squad of CSM possessed to wulfen conversions and the monopose is making it very difficult to differentiate them properly, it’s annoying. The sculpts are great and the first two squads were easy but it’s made more difficult on my end since I’m taking off most of the blatant chaos iconography and wilder mutations. I’m playing space wolf units painted as white scar successors and only really using units I can fit lore wise into the army, this was the biggest stretch: these “wulfen” are the mutated results of the primaris project (my chapter is isolated and supposedly [might have eaten the custodes and reinforcements] only received the data, so they had to make their own primaris) organized into suicide squads and festooned with purity seals.
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Frog Act posted:Ah that makes me feel less crazy, I’ve never really seen it explicitly acknowledged but it’s strange how newer models seem to be larger, more detailed, and significantly less, like, modelable? Besides the assembly, fixed-pose models can have more realistic and complex poses and lines of movement. Multipose kits tend to look a little bit like an action figure because of the need to have convenient points for reposing. It used to be that models modeled like this were just done in metal instead. It's still true if you're under a certain size company, although now there's pourable resin too. a fatguy baldspot posted:I’m on my third squad of CSM possessed to wulfen conversions and the monopose is making it very difficult to differentiate them properly, it’s annoying. The sculpts are great and the first two squads were easy but it’s made more difficult on my end since I’m taking off most of the blatant chaos iconography and wilder mutations. Take a look at Eightbound. The maw iconography fits a lot better as-is, and they have more parts that are a guy holding a weapon instead of a weird mutant limb. I heavily converted my own Possessed, albeit to make them look weirder and more chaotic, and I can post some of them with a rundown of how the conversion worked in a bit. Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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It's kind of a problem where the newer style can lead do dynamic posing within a single unit but it'll become obviously same-y if you're taking multiples of the same unit. As an example, I really like the new genestealers - I've got one unit of them and that works, but if I ran three it'd be weird to have 3 of them all doing the same cool vault over a pipe. The GSC bikers have a similar thing where 1/5 of them will all be popping wheelies because one from every kit of 5 is.
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Froghammer posted:Gue'Vasa as a Kill Team seems like a no-brainer How about instead we do a Tau dirty dozen kill team, lead by a grizzled old Shas'vre, with a couple of gue'vesa, a couple of kroot, a vespid, and a bunch of other weird tau auxilaries we've never seen before, including, and this is important, the psychic bears which are canonically members of the tau hegemony. Kill Team is at it's best when it does a bunch of weirdos that would never work as a 40k unit (inquisition weirdos, gellerpox, rogue trader retinue) and at it's blandest when it just does a 40k unit. Geisladisk fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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StashAugustine posted:I've always kinda wanted a story about a Tau spy trying to organize an uprising on an Imperial world and getting increasingly pissed off at the dozen competing insane cults they're into instead This was kinda the plot for Killteam Tau vs. Novitates. CCP and Vatican psyop teams fighting over a ruined-church planet.
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ro5s posted:It's kind of a problem where the newer style can lead do dynamic posing within a single unit but it'll become obviously same-y if you're taking multiples of the same unit. As an example, I really like the new genestealers - I've got one unit of them and that works, but if I ran three it'd be weird to have 3 of them all doing the same cool vault over a pipe. The GSC bikers have a similar thing where 1/5 of them will all be popping wheelies because one from every kit of 5 is. skill issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUFVO2KPAiI
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Horus, the universes 2nd or 3rd greatest ubermensch, shoved his head so far up his own rear end that he kept getting tricked by some random jackass over and over again.
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Lostconfused posted:Horus, the universes 2nd or 3rd greatest ubermensch, shoved his head so far up his own rear end that he kept getting tricked by some random jackass over and over again. The Primarchs are godlike but unfortunately they take after the dipshit gods
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I know this is almost a year late, but I'm finally getting around to painting my Sternguard vets from the Leviathan box. My only problem is they have horrible mold slippage on their right pauldrons. I wouldn't mind too much if they weren't so egregious, and I didn't have to paint their trims white. Is GW still allowing replacements for these errors?
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Lostconfused posted:Horus, the universes 2nd or 3rd greatest ubermensch, shoved his head so far up his own rear end that he kept getting tricked by some random jackass over and over again. Yeah that's right, Magnus is the true 2nd greatest ubermensch And, uh, he also shoved his head so far up his own rear end that he kept getting tricked over and over again
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JBP posted:Angron is the smartest primarch. Big E left the nails in so he wouldn't lead an actually successful uprising. He saw what Angron did to the "High Riders" and was like "gently caress, I could be next"
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Thinking about that bit in Arks of Omen when Khorne strikes the psychic beacon through Angron and he gets disintegrated by the explosion he experiences an instant of complete peace from the Nails and then is reconstituted on Armageddon and his brain is on fire again. Poor guy.
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