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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
if everything is provided in the way that it is if you have a lot of money how do you stop mass anhedonia under socialism?

maybe instead of fully automated luxury space communism we could make our utopian communism kind of lovely and awful, to make sure that we all enjoy the limited number of nice things we can experience, similar to how things are under capitalism

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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

I think if all of your base needs are fulfilled and you arent under constant stress theres probably a lot of time and energy for loving and sucking, or whatever else gets you going.

If all of your needs are provided for and you're still miserable maybe the problem is with you OP

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Just let the lame-os and squares who get sad brains over paradise life leave. Just go, but you can't take our stuff with you. I'm staying tho because poo poo is awesome.

I would escape a mandated "lovely on purpose because we know you like pain" sort of governance. like ew that's gross I already live under libs, I'm not trading that for other shittier libs.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕

KirbyKhan posted:

Just let the lame-os and squares who get sad brains over paradise life leave. Just go, but you can't take our stuff with you. I'm staying tho because poo poo is awesome.

I would escape a mandated "lovely on purpose because we know you like pain" sort of governance. like ew that's gross I already live under libs, I'm not trading that for other shittier libs.

but what if there's free healthcare and unlimited anime

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
Or maybe unlimited healthcare and free anime

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan
if you're not grinding you're dying

aw frig aw dang it
Jun 1, 2018


I'm dying anyway give me the anime

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

the end of scarcity, or even toil, wouldn't mean the dissolution of relationships or social pressures, wants, needs, etc. Money today lets you buy, buy out or obviate those things, but that just wouldn't be possible in mature communism. The meaning for life would be (correctly) found in our relationships with each other, not hustle grindset bag getting.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

KirbyKhan posted:

Just let the lame-os and squares who get sad brains over paradise life leave. Just go, but you can't take our stuff with you. I'm staying tho because poo poo is awesome.

I would escape a mandated "lovely on purpose because we know you like pain" sort of governance. like ew that's gross I already live under libs, I'm not trading that for other shittier libs.

the putative society could instead brainwash / re-educate those people instead.

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

the end of scarcity, or even toil, wouldn't mean the dissolution of relationships or social pressures, wants, needs, etc. Money today lets you buy, buy out or obviate those things, but that just wouldn't be possible in mature communism. The meaning for life would be (correctly) found in our relationships with each other, not hustle grindset bag getting.

I'm on that grind to improve my relationships.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

rise n grind fam let's get that loving kindness 😤😤😤

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN
As long as basic needs are met who cares?

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!
the anhedonia of the ultra rich is philosophical not material op hth

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXVQ5M-ft8

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

War and Pieces posted:

As long as basic needs are met who cares?

yah, sorry if being secure makes you feel sad couldn't be me

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

drat this is an experiment I'd be willing to try out. Someone please send me 100k and I'll let you know if it makes me sad over the following couple years. A cool million would probably ruin my life but I'm willing to take that chance for science, too

Poppers
Jan 21, 2023

We've created a perfect socialist utopia where everyone has everything they could ever need and nobody is sad or filled with ennui. All you need to do is step forward towards the big needle with AIDS written in sharpie on the side...

Stinky Wizzleteats
Nov 26, 2015

anhedonia is easily solved by simple substance abuse anyway, it's a fake problem

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


i would elect to give all the post scarcity utopia stuff to my biggest hater, motivating me to grind even harder

Poppers
Jan 21, 2023

Nice loving strat

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
this is one of those "maybe we should actually get somewhere in the ballpark of fully automated luxury gay communism before we start worrying about it" questions that aren't worth thinking about

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
my haters become my waiters when I sup at the table of success, imo

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬
Using the hypermode build IRL. The veil of economic precarity give you +60% to your gold find stat. It stacks with the periapt of homelessness to give you a total of +120%. Run that for a couple of months and you stand to make a lot of money, but if you take a single hit you die and get tossed in a dumpster full of cat piss and wet cardboard.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕

1stGear posted:

this is one of those "maybe we should actually get somewhere in the ballpark of fully automated luxury gay communism before we start worrying about it" questions that aren't worth thinking about

Also, thinking gives you wrinkles

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Also, thinking gives you wrinkles

explains why my skin is still baby smooth

Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014
i'd simply kill myself if i had too much money as you already won the game and its time to reroll

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

*observing the alienation of people who have devoted themselves body and soul to the inhuman alienation engine of capitalism* drat,,,,, seems like having your needs fulfilled fucks you up,,,,,,,,,

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

*observing the alienation of people who have devoted themselves body and soul to the inhuman alienation engine of capitalism* drat,,,,, seems like having your needs fulfilled fucks you up,,,,,,,,,

lol

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Maya Fey posted:

i would elect to give all the post scarcity utopia stuff to my biggest hater, motivating me to grind even harder

The one thing we forgot to provide a supply of in our post scarcity utopia was haters...

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

*observing the alienation of people who have devoted themselves body and soul to the inhuman alienation engine of capitalism* drat,,,,, seems like having your needs fulfilled fucks you up,,,,,,,,,

8723_4
Aug 8, 2023

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

we got a four acount day folks!!! we did it!!!

aw frig aw dang it
Jun 1, 2018



that's what's up

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022


Pentecoastal Elites posted:

*observing the alienation of people who have devoted themselves body and soul to the inhuman alienation engine of capitalism* drat,,,,, seems like having your needs fulfilled fucks you up,,,,,,,,,

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Al! posted:

we got a four acount day folks!!! we did it!!!

allahu akbar

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

the end of scarcity, or even toil, wouldn't mean the dissolution of relationships or social pressures, wants, needs, etc. Money today lets you buy, buy out or obviate those things, but that just wouldn't be possible in mature communism. The meaning for life would be (correctly) found in our relationships with each other, not hustle grindset bag getting.

tbh this sounds worse, the prospect of a society with nothing better to do than social jockeying has made me change my opinions on a communist utopia.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
if we get a 5 account day i'm going to lose my loving mind

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Al! posted:

if we get a 5 account day i'm going to lose my loving mind

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

PoundSand posted:

tbh this sounds worse, the prospect of a society with nothing better to do than social jockeying has made me change my opinions on a communist utopia.

if the fullness of a life lived amongst your fellow man in the full and unimpeded expression of humanity as its collective soul reads to you as "social jockeying" i think that might be a problem on your end my friend

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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