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i am too dumb to get all the symbolism in nope can someone explain what it was actually about
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Aug 27, 2023 20:52
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git apologist posted:i am too dumb to get all the symbolism in nope can someone explain what it was actually about no sorry
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Aug 27, 2023 21:04
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Studios really, genuinely want to replace everything with algorithm generated Content slop that's genuinely worse than this, there's a reason they're whining about the strikes so hard and want to keep streaming numbers secret from everyone lol There's some Fall Out Boy song on the radio that is just a remake of We Didn't Start The Fire and I was listening to it on the radio in the car and I was like "there's no new ideas anymore". Social media has genuinely made everything homogenous and bland and just revamps of old poo poo.
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Aug 27, 2023 21:08
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git apologist posted:i am too dumb to get all the symbolism in nope can someone explain what it was actually about It's wrong to eat horses.
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Aug 27, 2023 21:12
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Nope needed more aliens in the barn and less flying bedsheet monster imo
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Aug 27, 2023 21:56
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Toxic Mental posted:lol There's some Fall Out Boy song on the radio that is just a remake of We Didn't Start The Fire and I was listening to it on the radio in the car and I was like "there's no new ideas anymore". Social media has genuinely made everything homogenous and bland and just revamps of old poo poo. There's tons of new and original music, you just won't find it on the radio.
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Aug 27, 2023 22:02
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Poohs Packin posted:There's tons of new and original music, you just won't find it on the radio. this but for all media
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Aug 27, 2023 22:05
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get out was decent but it was a concept that couldn't miss. us was awful and nope was mostly just bland. i don't know why people think he's so great. it seems like since get out was such a good high concept, he's been greenlit as an Idea guy but actually all his other ideas are kinda stupid and his other skills are middling. he wields conflicting tones with more confidence than the vision deserves. it happens sometimes. a creative success gets smoke blown up their rear end and stops hearing no internally and externally so you get some messy BS. Men from alex garland felt like a similar sort of deal. but i'd rather these things get made than franchise movies so i'm not really complaining. roomtone fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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Aug 27, 2023 22:05
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Toxic Mental posted:Honestly basically all media is in decline right now, music, TV and movies. Basically it's gonna be vertical video tiktoks in a few years with sped up Kidz Bop songs. Enjoy! i would of agree'd w/ you from 2020 to 2022 but this year alone i think is a turning point. pre strike of course. we got 5 good movies that are unique sure 2 of the ones im talking about are based on previous ip and one is based on a sketch the writers did for like college humor or something but i think we might be turning a corner away from the mass produced crap. the 5 movies being barbie tmnt the blackening no hard feelings and oppenheimer. im sure im forgetting some to. i live in rural nc and went to see tmnt in a theater 30mins away and it was loving packed but even more suprising was that they had two theaters of barbie both completely sold out. i wanted to originally see both tmnt and barbie but was unable to see barbie because it was sold out. snergle fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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Aug 27, 2023 22:20
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there is always good poo poo and bad homogenized torrential waves of sludge garbage in every era, just the good stuff is remembered and carried forward and also it seems like a lot more crap now that we can see the dirrhea spigots of everywhere on earth turned to full blast especially with streaming meaning lots of media can be realized without going through the more rigorous filtering it previously had to everything everywhere all at once is a masterpiece, the menu and marcel the shell weren't mindblowing but they were perfectly good, glass onion rips, uncut gems was actually a good adam sandler movie wtf, I don't watch superhero poo poo but joker and guardians 3 (I didn't even watch the first two) are good in completely different ways and I've heard nothing but good about the new spidermans these are absolutely not even niche releases by any means, we're in a perfectly good spot and there is the backlog of all of humanitys achievement in every type of media at your fingertips meanwhile, don't get bogged down by the bullshit
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Aug 27, 2023 22:39
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git apologist posted:i am too dumb to get all the symbolism in nope can someone explain what it was actually about The thing is you gotta realise about symbolism is that a lot of the time it's not meant to be some le artistique statement or high-minded allusion but basically a cheeky joke and visual gag. And oftentimes it can be both! That said, there's a lot of particular motifs about filmmaking and cameras; squares are a recurring theme, especially in green, and the creature's eye looks loosely like an old-timey camera. (Also there's the bit where Em is leaning out the window framed right in the middle of the screen, and the green flyers for the Star Lasso Experience) Eyes are also a big one, what with one of the movie's posters/covers being literally a closeup of a horse's eye, and the themes of mirrors and how many animals treat direct eye contact as a threatening gesture. Like the horses, the chimp, and Jean Jacket all do. And then the flying saucer literally looks like a giant eye from below, and it devours people who look at it. Between that and the crazy burnt-out cameraman who ends up walking into its maw just to get a cool video, the theme isn't too subtle about Hollywood and show business being the art of getting looked at and getting devoured by a ravenous, insatiable machine that always wants more. Also at the end when the creature gets exploded, its body is torn apart into floating strips that look like film. Basically the overall theme is about how badly show business treats animals, as living props and sources of spectacle to be disposed of on a whim, and the way it treats humans isn't much better. Very timely theme given the strikes.
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Aug 28, 2023 04:27
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Bro you smoked all the marketing propaganda lol
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Aug 28, 2023 04:40
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Actually the message is monkeys gonna gently caress you up.
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Aug 28, 2023 04:43
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i remember a friend telling me he hated NOPE because it was so slow, the monkey made no sense at all, and the alien was dumb looking. I asked him what he thought of Jaws: the movie was slow and boring, the shark looked dumb, and he much preferred Deep Blue Sea because it was action oriented and the sharks hosed people up.
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Aug 28, 2023 05:03
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Tldr 
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Aug 28, 2023 05:07
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jean jacket is a stingray except when it's not, then it's a flying pair of stretched out tighty whiteys
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Aug 28, 2023 05:10
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SilvergunSuperman posted:I checked out that 80s twilight zone and it's barely watchable. Can you recommend some 90s outer limits? I watched a few when I found them on prime and they were ok but nothing fantastic yet, may not have hit the good ones. A Fancy Hat posted:Anthology TV shows, especially horror and sci-fi ones, are my favorite thing ever but there's this recent trend towards overbloating them. The same thing happened with Del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities - you had a bunch of 22 minute stories stretched out to almost an hour, cutting out any kind of tension or sense of urgency. Black Mirror's guilty of this, too, although less so imho. Oh 100%, have you watched Night Visions? Great horror sci-fi anthology (with some skippable eps), a View Through a Window & Patterns are fantastic. Ugh I was looking forward to Cabinet of Curiosity & it ended up lowering my opinion of Del Toro a notch. Watched the first eps & the interesting ideas were buried under buckets of unneeded blood and violence that took away all the oxygen. Fine have one or two bloodbaths but it’s ok to have one that relies on charm. Didn’t help the characters were one note.
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Aug 28, 2023 06:32
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Pimpcasso posted:jean jacket is a stingray except when it's not, then it's a flying pair of stretched out tighty whiteys It's a mix of stingray, jellyfish, octopus, whale and shark. The form at the end seems implied to be some kind of threat display, making itself look bigger and shaking about but not actually more dangerous. Hence OJ staring it down.
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Aug 28, 2023 06:39
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The thing is you gotta realise about symbolism is that a lot of the time it's not meant to be some le artistique statement or high-minded allusion but basically a cheeky joke and visual gag. And oftentimes it can be both! That said, there's a lot of particular motifs about filmmaking and cameras; squares are a recurring theme, especially in green, and the creature's eye looks loosely like an old-timey camera. (Also there's the bit where Em is leaning out the window framed right in the middle of the screen, and the green flyers for the Star Lasso Experience) cool i dig this *puffs clove cigarette*
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Aug 28, 2023 09:54
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Cowslips Warren posted:i remember a friend telling me he hated NOPE because it was so slow, the monkey made no sense at all, and the alien was dumb looking. I asked him what he thought of Jaws: the movie was slow and boring, the shark looked dumb, and he much preferred Deep Blue Sea because it was action oriented and the sharks hosed people up. this is the anti bougie, anti pretentious lifestyle and i respect it even though I can’t live that way
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Aug 28, 2023 09:55
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Wow, you're cool and smart just like Elon Musk
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Aug 28, 2023 10:55
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snergle posted:i would of agree'd w/ you from 2020 to 2022 but this year alone i think is a turning point. pre strike of course. we got 5 good movies that are unique sure 2 of the ones im talking about are based on previous ip and one is based on a sketch the writers did for like college humor or something but i think we might be turning a corner away from the mass produced crap. The upcoming Mattel Cinematic Universe would like a word
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Aug 28, 2023 11:03
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SilvergunSuperman posted:I checked out that 80s twilight zone and it's barely watchable. Can you recommend some 90s outer limits? I watched a few when I found them on prime and they were ok but nothing fantastic yet, may not have hit the good ones. A Fancy Hat posted:Anthology TV shows, especially horror and sci-fi ones, are my favorite thing ever but there's this recent trend towards overbloating them. The same thing happened with Del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities - you had a bunch of 22 minute stories stretched out to almost an hour, cutting out any kind of tension or sense of urgency. Black Mirror's guilty of this, too, although less so imho. Oh 100%, have you watched Night Visions? Great horror sci-fi anthology (with some skippable eps), a View Through a Window & Patterns are fantastic. Ugh I was looking forward to Cabinet of Curiosity & it ended up lowering my opinion of Del Toro a notch. Watched the first eps & the interesting ideas were buried under buckets of unneeded blood and violence that took away all the oxygen. Fine have one or two bloodbaths but it’s ok to have one that relies on charm. Didn’t help the characters were one note.
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Aug 28, 2023 14:02
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Pimpcasso posted:Nope needed more aliens in the barn and less flying bedsheet monster imo
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Aug 28, 2023 14:15
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Masters of Horror had more misses than hits but Cigarette Burns (Udo Kier!) & Screwfly Solution were excellent.
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Aug 28, 2023 18:05
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Nope themes and symbolism
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Aug 28, 2023 18:10
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Can we just have a 90 minute compilation of chimps absolutely destroying humans to spend up kidzbop music? Id watch that.
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Aug 28, 2023 18:15
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Can you recommend some 90s outer limits? I watched a few when I found them on prime and they were ok but nothing fantastic yet, may not have hit the good ones. For actually good episodes with memorable endings, try: Dead Man's Switch The Sentence (Niles from Frasier gets trapped in his own virtual prison) Tempests Quality of Mercy and The Light Brigade (some of the most memorable endings in the series imo) also watch Out of Body where Roz from Frasier is a ghost that can talk to people through T E C H N O L O G Y. Not a good episode but it is very funny. Sadly Frasier, Martin, Daphne and Eddie didn't get episodes Convex fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 28, 2023 |
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Aug 28, 2023 18:26
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Convex posted:For actually good episodes with memorable endings, try: I also recommend The Sand Kings episode written by some guy name George R.R. Martin.
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Aug 28, 2023 18:28
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Vakal posted:I also recommend The Sand Kings episode written by some guy name George R.R. Martin. This goes without saying! I like that Kim Coates is in the first and last ever episodes, but has a complete different role in each.
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Aug 28, 2023 18:29
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Also if you are in the mood for some "We have the Outer Limits at home!" there's always Stephen King's Nightmare and Dreamscapes series. It's worth it just for the 
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Aug 28, 2023 18:36
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The Guillermo Del Toro series that was on Netflix recently was really good anthology stuff kind of like The Outer Limits. The Eric Andre one was really good if you're into that kind of slow burn Tarantino-esque poo poo
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Aug 28, 2023 20:07
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Toxic Mental posted:Honestly basically all media is in decline right now, music, TV and movies. Basically it's gonna be vertical video tiktoks in a few years with sped up Kidz Bop songs. Enjoy! There's always been garbage media, what are you talking about? Do you think "The Babe Ruth Story" or "My Mother the Car" were good because they were made before 2020?
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Aug 28, 2023 20:24
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Convex posted:For actually good episodes with memorable endings, try: Thanks for recs I watched them (except that last one). Those were much better than the other eps I had seen, surprisingly good sci-fi sets for the 90s. Dead Man’s Switch: great stuff, enjoyed how world almost ended because someone wouldn’t stop playing Super Mario Land. It has a pause button! The Sentence: my favorite so far, David Hyde Pierce sells the concept well & even when the plot twist is expected it still has impact. The premise reminded me of the Jaunt & that black mirror with John Hamm. was glad it didn’t have a cruel twist & that Pierce wasn’t evil & learned something. It was fun to wonder why the heck a WA state prison would have electric floors & holographic psychiatric but makes sense when Pierce doesn’t know what they are like and expects that. Tempests: great horror Quality of Mercy and The Light Brigade: excellent stuff, Robert Patrick really got put through the wringer in 90s tv. at least Tony Soprano stopped with a beating & didn’t take any body parts. Send more recs if you got ‘em, this show owns
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Aug 29, 2023 16:54
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Thanks for recs I watched them (except that last one). Those were much better than the other eps I had seen, surprisingly good sci-fi sets for the 90s. Awesome! Glad you enjoyed them, here are a few others: Vakal posted:I also recommend The Sand Kings episode written by some guy name George R.R. Martin. The New Breed Trial By Fire Deja Vu (yes that is kevin nealon) Inconstant Moon
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Aug 29, 2023 19:20
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Toxic Mental posted:The Guillermo Del Toro series that was on Netflix recently was really good anthology stuff kind of like The Outer Limits. it is by Panos Cosmatos who made Beyond The Black Rainbow and Mandy. I was really excited to hear that he made an episode for a Horror Anthology show. I loved it. Peter Weller does an utterly uncanny imitation of David Carradine 
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Aug 30, 2023 01:10
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Oldstench posted:I don't understand why people are giving you poo poo about this. It makes perfect sense to me. (not high) People get weird and stupid about that poo poo especially when they're trying to be normies Big rear end On Fire posted:The barn aliens were the spookiest part. Rather funny given the whole thing they are specifically kids acting as spooky as they can imagine. Seriously, props to their coordination and planning. That said, given the racial themes I wonder if it's a nod to how the KKK dressed up as ghosts to get away with terrorising black people in a way that wouldn't be taken seriously. There's also a lot of fun hints to things like how Ricky's business is failing, he took over a theme park in the middle of nowhere after the last owners went broke and had been trying and failing to cling to his former child star fame.
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Aug 30, 2023 11:29
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Rather funny given the whole thing they are specifically kids acting as spooky as they can imagine. Seriously, props to their coordination and planning. That said, given the racial themes I wonder if it's a nod to how the KKK dressed up as ghosts to get away with terrorising black people in a way that wouldn't be taken seriously. possibly, wouldn't surprise me considering the rest of peele's output, but also the masks are almost identical to the film canisters on the cameras during the sitcom disaster
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Aug 30, 2023 12:26
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Ghost Leviathan posted:People get weird and stupid about that poo poo especially when they're trying to be normies Edit - I think I see what you are saying post coffee. Big Ass On Fire fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Aug 30, 2023 |
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Aug 30, 2023 13:32
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Nope was fun, but I'm way too dense to pick up on all the deep symbolism. It was just a fun movie with some UFO/scifi type themes and a chimp that wrecked people in the flashbacks. Also, that electric motorbike that the TMZ guy had was pretty loving cool.
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