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I saw a marxist the other day, horrible creatures
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smdh beaten again
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Aug 31, 2023 17:29
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id be a lot warmer and a lot happier with a bellyful of marx
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Aug 31, 2023 17:32
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Let me guess... somebody stole your sweet labour
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Aug 31, 2023 17:38
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Some here in Helgen call you a Marxist, but a Marxist doesn't use a power like the Voice to murder his king and usurp his throne.
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Aug 31, 2023 17:39
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that's bonapartism
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Aug 31, 2023 17:42
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Patrolling the Marxists almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
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Aug 31, 2023 18:21
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Ave, true to Stalin
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Aug 31, 2023 18:25
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Stewie Griffin threads beyond measure, Outlander.
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Aug 31, 2023 18:48
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mfw i spot a marxist..
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Aug 31, 2023 19:09
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marxfield
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Aug 31, 2023 22:55
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Maya Fey posted:mfw i spot a marxist.. Oh christ, not this guy again...
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Aug 31, 2023 23:05
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Like what's the deal with government in tes anyways? The empire is obviously intended to be like the Roman empire in your understanding of it, but they forgot about that by the time oblivion rolls around, and the complete lack of any sort of Senate or administration or regional governors make it seem more like a post-medieval national monarchy.
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Aug 31, 2023 23:11
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Morrowind is the good one and the empire is far enough away that your experience in the mostly self governed province under the ostensible rule and primacy of the empire is pretty coherent in the way it's presented. The imperials act on the will of the empire and what exactly that means or how that's even mechanically determined is left to the imagination of the player. The imperial claim to cosmopolitanism and some form of progressive equality certainly ring true compared to the slave owning isolationists of the Morrowind traditionalist factions but the godlessness and mercantile nature of the imperials weakening over time and eventually being challenged by the dickhead elves of wherever is one of the things in Skyrim I actually appreciate. I've got a theory that fantasy genre is actually defined in most cases by the non-existance of an industrialized proletariat as a mechanism of explanation for why feudalism is tolerated for so long in most of them. e: I guess it helps when demons from the outer realms proveably exist and your emperor fights one of them to the death to protect the planet too Herbert Stencil has issued a correction as of 23:35 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Aug 31, 2023 23:28
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Herbert Stencil posted:I've got a theory that fantasy genre is actually defined in most cases by the non-existance of an industrialized proletariat as a mechanism of explanation for why feudalism is tolerated for so long in most of them. I started reading Malazan and am having a hard time squaring the medieval trappings with the presence of regimented standing armies and wizard cadres who are fantasy artillery and the like, stuff is funny.
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Aug 31, 2023 23:38
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The Empire uses Roman symbolism but organisationally they seem like, I dunno, medieval England or France or maybe the HRE. Local nobles hold the power and do all the government stuff and pay fealty to the Emperor. The only real Imperial state stuff in the provinces are tax collectors and the Legion garrisonsmy bony fealty posted:I started reading Malazan and am having a hard time squaring the medieval trappings with the presence of regimented standing armies and wizard cadres who are fantasy artillery and the like, stuff is funny. The Witcher was like this too and yeah it tripped me up
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Aug 31, 2023 23:44
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DaysBefore posted:Legion garrisons This is the thing that European feudalism was mostly unable to do: maintain standing armies that were not culturally aligned with the places they occupied. That's what made it feudalism, the kings needed the lords more than the lords needed the king.
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I've also been thinking about thieves guilds in fantasy as a type of organized crime that seems to be at least somewhat tolerated by the empire and it's nobility. It seems to me that maybe the reason they're tolerated is that they target the merchant/petit bourgeois classes for the most part rather than the poorer people in agrarian roles, which helps to prevent the accumulation of wealth in a class that could eventually challenge the nobility for supremacy and rule. Thieves guilds as an instrument of class stability and redistribution of wealth I guess.
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ikanreed posted:This is the thing that European feudalism was mostly unable to do: maintain standing armies that were not culturally aligned with the places they occupied. Yeah absolutely (though some Legions are implied to be local recruits, maybe just the human ones lol). But the Legions are the only real standout I can think of
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Sep 1, 2023 00:31
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There's orcs and occasionally dunmer in the imperial legion on Morrowind, which I think are locally recruited, though most of them are humans in the larger and more important forts.
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Sep 1, 2023 00:33
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DaysBefore posted:The Witcher was like this too and yeah it tripped me up i cant tell if its because of the translation but the witcher threads were really hard to read
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Sep 1, 2023 00:40
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malazan kicks rear end, karsa ftw
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Herbert Stencil posted:There's orcs and occasionally dunmer in the imperial legion on Morrowind, which I think are locally recruited, though most of them are humans in the larger and more important forts. Sure. Morrowind had some idea that its factions were made of people with material interests. But oblivion's legion is a bunch of kids cartoon cops with nothing else going on. At all.
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Sep 1, 2023 00:51
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ikanreed posted:Sure. Morrowind had some idea that its factions were made of people with material interests. Stop! You violated the law!
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Sep 1, 2023 00:59
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You b'ourgeois!
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Sep 1, 2023 01:44
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what i thought was a marxist ended up being three trots in a trench coat
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Ash Crimson posted:*Guile voice* CHRONIC GOON
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