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This is really good too.quote:This is the beginning—from "I" to "we". If you who own the things people must have could understand this, you might preserve yourself. If you could separate causes from results, if you could know that Paine, Marx, Jefferson, Lenin were results, not causes, you might survive. But that you cannot know. For the quality of owning freezes you forever into "I", and cuts you off forever from the "we".
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Jonny 290 posted:This is really good too. whats that from
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 03:59 |
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art of war
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:00 |
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fart simpson posted:whats that from
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:01 |
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i somehow dont remember that part at all
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:05 |
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polyester concept posted:i was made to read the grapes of wrath in high school but all of it was lost on me and i don’t think i even finished it. i think i got the coles notes for my book report i think that’s generally true for most, if not all, high schoolers. i feel like reading before you’re 20 doesn’t really count, there’s just not enough up there for the ideas to bounce off of yet and it’s gonna be hard to get anything to take hold every time i’ve reread a book that i read in my teens it was like reading it for the first time
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:11 |
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well-read undead posted:i think that’s generally true for most, if not all, high schoolers. i feel like reading before you’re 20 doesn’t really count, there’s just not enough up there for the ideas to bounce off of yet and it’s gonna be hard to get anything to take hold i def got that from heart of darkness. didn't really feel it as a teenager, but goddamn did it hit different in my early twenties
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:14 |
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i did my senior english paper on Paradise Lost cause Goth and i guaranfuckingtee you i absorbed none of it
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:22 |
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Jonny 290 posted:i did my senior english paper on Paradise Lost cause Goth and i guaranfuckingtee you i absorbed none of it i havent read milton since grade school and have occasionally wondered if i should revisit all i remember about his poo poo is that satan was a more rounded character than i had experienced previously
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:28 |
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yall have inspired me to read grapes o’ wrath again
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rotor posted:yall have inspired me to read grapes o’ wrath again another yospos success story
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 04:42 |
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another steinbeck to consider https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/4803
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well-read undead posted:i think that’s generally true for most, if not all, high schoolers. i feel like reading before you’re 20 doesn’t really count, there’s just not enough up there for the ideas to bounce off of yet and it’s gonna be hard to get anything to take hold yep
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 05:00 |
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anyone here read sagebrushes book? I presume he’s written one
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 06:08 |
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yeah i have
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fart simpson posted:this was my favorite bit but feel free to skip it i guess seems pretty dated, not sure how this is relevant in our modern enlightened era
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 14:50 |
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echinopsis posted:anyone here read sagebrushes book? the massive melvillian digressions about civil aviation are very strange in a textbook about rounded edges in milling
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# ? Sep 2, 2023 15:17 |
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I pretty much only read nonfiction now
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polyester concept posted:i was made to read the grapes of wrath in high school but all of it was lost on me and i don’t think i even finished it. i think i got the coles notes for my book report you should read east of eden steinbeck has a lot of really great novels that are relatively short
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 17:48 |
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3 body problem? thats what you guys get for having a goon meet. 😂
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 17:49 |
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east of eden, cannery row, and to a god unknown are all good but somehow I’ve never actually read grapes of wrath. this thread is making me want to. I like steinbeck
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 17:56 |
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I hope Pynchon has one more book in him before he goes
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 17:56 |
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i'm about 30% into 'Soul of a new machine' about the development of a late 70s minicomputer, and so far i hate everyone in the book because they're all insufferable workaholic techbros who think everyone else should work 90hr weeks too
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 18:37 |
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i haven’t read a lot of steinbeck as an adult, maybe i should give it another go. a few months ago i read of mice and men as part of a sort of dumb guy cycle; of mice and men was ok, flowers for algernon was great, and i still haven’t made it through the idiot, probably because i’ve read my fair share of dostoevsky and idk it’s not his best i tried to read grapes of wrath when i was in my early 20s and bounced off it, but it would probably take now. plus, hey, everyone else is doing it
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 19:07 |
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it’s no brothers k but the idiot is still one of my favorite books of all time. section 1 chapter 6 always gets me demons, there’s a dostoevsky I have had trouble getting into
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# ? Sep 3, 2023 19:20 |
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post hole digger posted:I hope Pynchon has one more book in him before he goes sorry he died years ago
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# ? Sep 4, 2023 01:07 |
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david foster wallace was created when the cia failed to clone thomas pynchon
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# ? Sep 4, 2023 22:09 |
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i really dislike steinbeck not for any specific reason, though, just not fan of his style of writing matti fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 5, 2023 |
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matti posted:i really dislike steinbeck i'm not a huge steinbeck fan, but he wrote some poo poo i liked and i'm totally feeling grape of wrath right now
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 02:13 |
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I like to have two books on the go: my fiction read atm is Count Bellisarius by Robert Graves (of I, Claudius fame; if you liked that one you'd like this one too); and, for non-fiction I'm reading New York is Now: The New Wave of Free Jazz which I usually read in the corner of a bar in the hopes that mysterious strangers will come up to me and talk about itSweevo posted:i'm about 30% into 'Soul of a new machine' about the development of a late 70s minicomputer, and so far i hate everyone in the book because they're all insufferable workaholic techbros who think everyone else should work 90hr weeks too if it makes you feel any better, it turns out that boomer techbros couldn't handle 90 hour weeks better than we can and later on there's a chapter where one guy burns out and moves to a commune in Vermont full of nudists rather than spend another moment writing CPU microcode
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 02:25 |
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currently reading KSR's The Ministry for the Future about the very near future of climate catastrophe and oh boy is it grim going, give this one a pass if you experience despair without keeping a handle on it. A hobo did just kill a rich guy by cracking his head with a log, which is the first positive bit of the book so far.
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 02:32 |
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NoneMoreNegative posted:currently reading KSR's The Ministry for the Future about the very near future of climate catastrophe and oh boy is it grim going, give this one a pass if you experience despair without keeping a handle on it. best part of the book is the first chapter by a margin
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 03:09 |
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I have finished the monkey wrench gang. it’s a good one
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# ? Sep 6, 2023 07:21 |
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Finished Chasm City, pretty fun book. Might start reading Revelation Space next.
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At some point I deleted my calibre web docker instance, so I will also set that up this week. -_-
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# ? Sep 12, 2023 16:12 |
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I’m still reading eyes of the void but I’m trying to power through it so wife and I can start lords of uncreation together on our upcoming road trip
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# ? Sep 12, 2023 16:17 |
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i finished the voyagers pacific islanders book. it's ok, good content but the author had a tendency to write a lot of words and not say that much. there were many page-long paragraphs. going to read monarchs and milkweed now, gotta learn about plants and butterflies.
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# ? Sep 12, 2023 16:27 |
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started on neuromancer instead 👍
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# ? Sep 13, 2023 15:38 |
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finished three body problem. i gotta say, i found it tedious
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Finished Chasm City, pretty fun book. Might start reading Revelation Space next. i thought chasm city was extremely boring. better reynolds' books (imo): - house of suns - the prefect
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