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9 | 21.95% |
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wow what a tediously gross prick this Strickland guy is
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CarlCX posted:The fun other thing going around twitter today: A North American company, pays a North American athlete, in North American Currency, for work which for all but one week took place entirely in North America, and was predominantly broadcast in North America, and the Australian government takes 45% of his purse? After the state government forked over +$10 million for it to happen there in the first place? That seems absurd. As an Australian, keep it my man. If he gets most of it back then cool but gently caress I hate taking the long way round. It's like another first world problem - I hate going to the doctor and they charge you a hundred bucks for the visit, and then re-imburse you for most of it later that day via the public health thing. Seems like a stupid waste of admin. the joke is that america is not a first world country lol
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Sep 15, 2023 04:02
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Mr. Nice! posted:The USA taxes non-resident aliens (IE any foreign fighter coming to the USA to fight) at 30%. Presumably that's when they're working for an American company, and performing for a predominantly American audience at least though. The Australian government just swooping in like a magpie and going "yoink" to almost half of it is honestly kind of hilarious. But whatever, yes, the pay is garbage, and fact that the UFC makes them fly to the other side of the world and then takes that ticket out of their pay is surely actionable.
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sorry to continue a barely relevant chat from days ago, but was away for the weekend and found this unsent reply open so heySuper Deuce posted:Taxes are good and pay for things you need. Of course taxes are good, but they are usually predicated on the principle that: 1) the state in question helped build the business that made that profit, by providing all the infrastructure around it, so are reasonably entitled to take a cut, and 2) that the person/business will continue to use and benefit from the services that state provides, by living there, which they can therefore be reasonably expected to contribute to. Neither of those are true in this case. If AUS want to take a cut of the UFC's profits after the event, fine, but getting into this guy's purse - especially after giving the UFC $16 million to come here in the first place - is gross. If a foreigner comes to fight in Australian promotion, sure, take a little, cos the host country helped make that happen. If an Australian goes to fight in another country, sure, take a little, cos they raised you and you might retire there. This is just robbery. But yeah, surely it's just an accounting error by someone and he'll get most of it back, so anyhoo good chat back to mma
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Fozzy The Bear posted:This is a horrible take. referring to what AUS did to this dude's pay, presumably
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I don't know why you are effort posting your thoughts on taxes in the MMA thread, but this is 100% the UFC to blame, not AUS. the way the athletes get remunerated in the industry is not irrelevant to the thread, but yes I'm done and was just making one more silly little joke sorry, I think you're right, I did say it was probably just someone's accounting error.
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cagliostr0 posted:You have a fundamental lack of understanding of Australian taxation though so I don't know why you think you should be weighing in on how Australia taxes earnings and whether it's fair to fighters. because I was talking about the principle, after taking the OP's tweet at face value. But you're right, it's all a bit baffling to me, and the tweet was probably misrepresenting something (edit - and/or I misunderstood something), so happy to leave it Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 05:59
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TheKingslayer posted:They really are This is not an mma / athlete thing. This is a "decades of brain-poisoning anti-progressive conspiracy-based propaganda" thing. You have people in all sorts of positions saying essentially the same thing. Bryce seems like an otherwise decent dude (notwithstanding any drama with the ex) and I feel awful for him and everyone else who's been sucked into this disinformation vortex.
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kimbo305 posted:I definitely think the correlation with being an insanely good athlete and time spent away from traditional higher education and more literacy around science and critical thinking hurts their chances. CarlCX posted:MMA is by no means responsible for or unique to the disinformation vortex, but I do think it shares a uniquely strong bond to it. The might-makes-right impact of martial arts has been a tool of authoritarianism for a reason. Yeah fair enough. Also DJT giving Dana the first casino gigs.
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Sep 23, 2023 16:19
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CarlCX posted:you're right, talking about politics and the effects of disinformation on mixed martial artists is definitely in no way relevant to UFC discussion Well while we're here, having probably read over 20K words of Carl's over the years, I'd like to offer a similar number in return, about where all this disinformation poo poo is actually coming from. It's a similar kind of style to the write-ups I think, telling the "whole" story, the human story, the journey of how the various paths crossed to lead to this point. Zooming all the way out and back in kind of vibe. Perhaps I flatter myself. Anyway obviously a lot has been written about Q-stuff already of course, but this answers the question of who actually started it and how, right down to the specific people in the room when it was conceived, which hasn't been done before. The journalists are actively wrong about it, often aggressively so. No one seems to care, and I don't expect that to be any different in here, and I don't want to start a discussion or derail the thread or anything, so please scroll past if it's not your bag, I'm just offering it to a fellow amateur writer and our benevolent OP and anyone else who might be interested since it came up and it kind of affects everything.
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I’ll admit to it being Connor, if only to get some statistical realism in here. I think part of the Notorious documentary came on TV one night, and there was something very endearing about this kid from Dublin being so buzzed by the hotel room in Vegas and the watches and stuff. It must have been in the lead up to the Aldo fight, cos the next thing I remember is hearing on the radio that he’d knocked out the champ in 14 seconds, and that’s basically when I started paying attention I guess. I remember seeing some 20 years ago, and it being too brutal to stomach. Hilarious how recent that is, and yet how even things like “TV” and “Radio” are basically relics now.
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