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Yep, the 2023 Astros are now more dead than the Astrodome (which is more dormant than dead... long may it stand!). Thanks for having us here!Intruder posted:To be frank, even though losing the last two at home sucked I had no faith in the team even getting to this point with a couple weeks to go in the season while they were busy getting swept by the Royals and were the least likely to make the playoffs out of the Rangers, M's and Jays before the series against the M's so even being able to watch and cheer for my favorite team all the way to game 7 of the championship series (though I didn't get a chance to do much cheering in game 7 itself) was nice Losing by 9-2 and 11-4 (at home) in games 6 and 7 of the 2023 ALCS didn't feel as bad as I remember losing games 6 and 7 (at home) of the 2019 WS did... Tho I can't remember the exact scores off hand (pretty sure both were much closer), the travesty that was game 7 that year (and AJ Hinch not bringing in Cole) was much more painful. Which is kinda funny since I didn't begrudge the Nationals beating us to win their first WS... whereas I really don't want the Rangers to go on to win their first WS this year (I'm fine with them winning it, just not in a year they destroyed us in the ALCS first... wounds too fresh and raw). So maybe it just sucks to lose a WS narrowly more? Games 3+4+5 felt more fun this time around than in DC in 2019, tho.... am I correct in remembering an epic Bregman grand slam? That was pretty badass, if so.
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yeah bregman had a big blast and also the nats fans rightly booed the gently caress out of trump
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Ugh guess I have to post here now. Hey bawfuls how ya doin
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GOMS
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Kirios posted:Ugh guess I have to post here now.
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I love Dusty too death but he was the wrong manager this year. Too many weird decisions.
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Oct 24, 2023 14:01
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Sorry I meant "gut calls"
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We won last year in spite of Dusty because of unsustainable performances from several people. With regression this year, his management was too much to overcome If the pitching simply regresses the other way next year we'll still be quite viable contenders, so I'm not despairing or anything, the window isn't closed, but get Dusty Baker the gently caress out of here
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Honest question -- does anyone attribute their World Series win to good managing? I know Cubs fans have a complicated relationship with Maddon, same with LA and Roberts, and now Dusty. When was the last time someone was like, "Oh thank goodness they're pushing all the right buttons"...? Also this question reminds me of when Davey Martinez did an interview about their offense struggling and he said they just needed to score more "points." Was convinced he was kind of an idiot, and then he won a World Series. 
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I unironically believe Dave Roberts managed a masterful Game 6 in 2020. He used 7 pitchers who collectively allowed just 1 run, and the run came early. The fact that Kevin Cash became the manager story of that game is a testament to how perfectly (and thus invisibly) Roberts deployed his pitching.
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AJ Hinch leaving Charlie Morton in to finish off game 7 in 2017 is an example of a manager going with his gut and it working But you can find a ton more examples of managers loving it up, of course, there was the time Pedro Martinez was left in too long in I think 2003 as just one of many many many examples, last year bringing in Robbie Ray to face Yordan Alvarez, etc But in this particular case you have the egregiousness of playing arguably the worst catcher in all of baseball constantly over an objectively better player, insisting on putting Montero into games, not using Chas McCormick enough, it goes on and on.
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Bregor posted:Honest question -- does anyone attribute their World Series win to good managing? I know Cubs fans have a complicated relationship with Maddon, same with LA and Roberts, and now Dusty. When was the last time someone was like, "Oh thank goodness they're pushing all the right buttons"...? Maddon mismanaged the hell out of WS games 6 and 7, but he also ran circles around Bochy in NLDS G4. Bochy had no closer and everybody knew it, and once it was clear he was super twitchy on the bullpen trigger Maddon pulled the Russell -> Coghlan -> Contreras PH circus which got one of the Cubs hottest bats up to the plate in a platoon advantage and two pitches later Contreras tied the game.
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Yeah the 2023 Houston Astros...should have been a lot better than they were. A team that should have won 100 games only winning 90 - even if they made it to the ALCS, can be infuriating. Especially when the blame for that largely falls on the manager.
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Well, the manager and the Oakland A's.
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Tbh I'm not sure that Singleton PH was the wrong call, he had a drat good AB
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Wayne Knight posted:Well, the manager and the Oakland A's. More the Royals than the A's. Only lost 2 of 3 to the A's, lost 5 of 6 to the Royals
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Astro bad very sad. Bawfuls come fight with me in here to make me happy again. Or McMagic or whatever I dont care. Go Stros.
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WELCOME PHILLIES! You're just like the rest of us.
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That is a rough one for the Phillies. Baseball's playoff system is completely broken.
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Ok so the Phillies are dogshit garbage.
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mcmagic posted:That is a rough one for the Phillies. Baseball's playoff system is completely broken. Actually it owns OP
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mcmagic posted:That is a rough one for the Phillies. Baseball's playoff system is completely broken. How the gently caress are you wrong about everything lmao. Randomly a Phillies sympathizer??
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Ugh I can’t believe I’m going to root for the d-bags
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mcmagic is correct that an 84-win negative run differential team should not ever be in position to play in a world series, but the time for that particular objection was at the end of september
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bawfuls posted:mcmagic is correct that an 84-win negative run differential team should not ever be in position to play in a world series, but the time for that particular objection was at the end of september people were razzing me for saying this in the GDT but I stand by it; showing up and playing hard counts a lot more than raw talent.
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Beating Milwaukee, LA, and Philly is objectively hilarious. The system works
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All playoffs are bullshit frankly, complaining about the format is just splitting hairs. As long as we have this stupid system might as well live with it, not like it's a surprise to any of the players
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CapnAndy posted:I would counter-argue that any team who doesn't like it is free to bounce the 84 win negative run differential team right back out of the playoffs Yeah pretty much. Whining about how the D-Backs shouldn't have even been there rings pretty loving hollow when the teams that "should" have been there get stone cold beaten by them in the postseason.
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Let's not forget that they blew the last series of the year and got swept by the Astros which vaulted them from out of the playoffs to the division title. D'backs are good people.
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baseball will expand the postseason until there is a world series played between sub-.500 teams, complain that the ratings were low, then expand the postseason some more to get more tv money
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CapnAndy posted:I would counter-argue that any team who doesn't like it is free to bounce the 84 win negative run differential team right back out of the playoffs, and if they can't, then that says a lot more about your team than it does about them there are ways to do this without changing the postseason format but the league doesn't care because if it doesn't increase revenues next year then it's invisible to billionaires
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bawfuls posted:tournaments are fun but I'm on record that I'd like the sport to celebrate greatness over a 6 month season (a thing it did for 50 years) Most fans don't want a smaller postseason either
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bawfuls posted:baseball will expand the postseason until there is a world series played between sub-.500 teams, complain that the ratings were low, then expand the postseason some more to get more tv money How low does the bar have to go for the first seed Dodgers to get matched up against a team Kershaw could actually beat in October?
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Sydin posted:How low does the bar have to go for the first seed Dodgers to get matched up against a team Kershaw could actually beat in October? He had a CGSO this postseason. Couldn't get single out.
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Sydin posted:How low does the bar have to go for the first seed Dodgers to get matched up against a team Kershaw could actually beat in October?
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Sydin posted:How low does the bar have to go for the first seed Dodgers to get matched up against a team Kershaw could actually beat in October? You chose violence lol
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bawfuls posted:baseball will expand the postseason until there is a world series played between sub-.500 teams, complain that the ratings were low, then expand the postseason some more to get more tv money the problem with ratings (who cares) is not that the dbacks are .500 is that they are the diamondbacks. i guarantee you a world series between an 81 win cubs team against like an 85-win red sox team would have people watching it, on television
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bawfuls posted:baseball will expand the postseason until there is a world series played between sub-.500 teams, complain that the ratings were low, then expand the postseason some more to get more tv money The ratings for this one are already gonna be rough
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R.D. Mangles posted:the problem with ratings (who cares) is not that the dbacks are .500 is that they are the diamondbacks. i guarantee you a world series between an 81 win cubs team against like an 85-win red sox team would have people watching it, on television
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