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YeahTubaMike posted:Wow, never heard about this. What a shitbag. My recollection is that he thought they were dating because she (a college aged teenager) was nice to him (a pushing middle-aged man). There's also another 40 sonething writer dude who left his wife with the belief he and Natalie Portman were in love. Being in her presence breaks a certain kind of dude's brain.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2023 13:57 |
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Modulo16 posted:“Tall Cans in the Air” - Transplants Burning for You also has a cool intro, but sort of drops off.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2023 15:41 |
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That one by Tool about how everyone in LA is a dumb Stacey and Chad and should die in a flood.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2023 14:10 |
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I don't think Pearl Jam suck necessarily. Infact, i think it would be churlish to day that, but jarling shell-necklace,stadium rock isn't my thing, especially compared to the sweaty, fuzzy stuff that was happening at the same time. I can see the appeal of Soundgarden, PJ and AIC, but im left a bit cold. However: Rear View Mirror loving rips.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2023 15:07 |
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~Coxy posted:Don't tell the AU thread that I'm suggesting TISM. Nah, Hole have a w(hole) good album, but CS is a good song from a boring record.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 13:29 |
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The Offspring suck and like 90% of their songs are like "this person is poor and its their own fault, look at this fukken strawman" over the worst kind of punk (so-cal skater pish). If anyone in your goofball punk band is a PhD, please stop making music because the disconnect between the social and economic capital you have to have to achieve that makes your take on class issues terrible. The Kids Aren't Alright rips though. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Sep 12, 2023 |
# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 14:03 |
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Saalkin posted:Lots of wrong and bad opinions about The Offspring. Own property maybe.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 14:15 |
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A Strange Aeon posted:?? If you're up for a pretentious as gently caress anniversary review of Americana that unpacks its small 'c' conservatism, this Quietus article covers it: https://thequietus.com/articles/25686-offspring-americana-review-anniversary And I mostly agree, there's some of that album that feels like an uncles Facebook posts. Also so-cal stuff just misses me The Offspring, NOFX, Bad Religion, Pennywise never resonated.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 14:26 |
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A Strange Aeon posted:Is Rancid so cal punk? I always loved them, since they were half of Operation Ivy which I also loved. It's more a general thing with a lot of late 80s/early 90s US punk where the self-determination of hardcore had kind of curdled into bootstappy libertarian sentiment and didacticism. I wouldn't call them right-wing or pro-capitalist or anything, but there's an element of victim blaming to some of their songs that feels unempathetic to me. But, more crucially, that wave of punk does nothing for me, but probably because the rich-kid skaters who would film themselves loving with homeless people I knew all loved that stuff and it's been tainted by association.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 14:51 |
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YeahTubaMike posted:
Can't stand Vedders voice either, but "Rear View Mirror" absolutely slaps. Apparently the band don't like it, which is a ringing endorsement IMO. A friend encouraged me to revisit Ten recently, and it's okay. I just don't like the shell-necklace and stadium rock side of grunge that much. I might have felt different if I listened to it on release. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 12, 2023 |
# ¿ Sep 12, 2023 14:57 |
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Offspring have multiple strong entries in "worst song ever" contention. They loving suck. I'm not sure if I like "Sugar Ray, but about Welfare Queens", "mental health isn't real" or "prison is good because crime only happens because of bad people" from Americana alone.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2023 13:05 |
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:Whoever mentioned She by Greenday, thanks. I listened to it a couple times and the Welcome to Paradise and then Longview and then Sassafrass Roots and then wouldn't you know it, the whole Dookie album. 29? That's almost twice the age of the average pop-punk guy's girlfriend!
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2023 13:07 |
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~Coxy posted:That's probably the least objectionable rock/pop/punk lyrics in the last 50 years. Yeah, nothing as bad as RATMs "Cops are your friend" or Dead Kennedys "Check out his interview on Rogan he has some good ideas" or Bikini Kills "Tradwife Girl" To clarify, and to be a bit less snide, I don't think that The Offspring are necessarily deliberate conservatives or pop-punk Skrewdriver or anything, but I do think the worldview on Americana has aged like milk and it makes the mid-tier pop-punk harder to stomach (like, they're better than Bowling for Soup, but not Green Day or Blink 182. They come in at about a New Found Glory). I had that record back in the day, I don't want to ruin anyone's nostalgia about it and definitely don't want to imply its politics reflects on them. The Offspring, on Americana, come off very much like suburbanites who wanted to make a "State of the Nation" album but took the Jerry Springer show seriously. It all feels a bit mean-spirited and a little elitist with distance, so if I was half-cut and wanted some brain-erasing pop-punk, they'd probably be the last place I'd go. Even album stand out "The Kids Aren't Alright" seems to blame the characters for their situations when other punk bands can also tell stories about why someone "dropped out and had a couple of kids", and rather than be scandalised like a 50s housewife, talk about that experience. There's a lack of empathy and derision of the underclass on that album, which feels antiethical to its influences. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:I wish your mom had no offspring Lmao
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2023 14:31 |
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:I remember back in the days of Rick deez(nuts lol), he said dexter Hollands voice sounded like his underwear had been dipped in liquid nitrogen while he was wearing them. "I guess it aint easy doin' nuthin at AWWWWAAAAARGH" https://youtu.be/GfBr7O8vWNA?si=EcD1upREq9hECunj
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2023 16:37 |
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Call Your Grandma posted:ok I get the sentiment that Offspring aren't good. but worse than blink 182? Dammit gives them a wide margin alone.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2023 13:20 |