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Jan 20, 2017


Ches Neckbeard posted:

I'm no doctor but I am a guy on the internet so I'm at least as qualified as Joe Rogan to say that's a pretty bad sign right there

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1701459656047034379?s=20

Man... that just really sucks for both Aaron and the Jets.

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Jan 20, 2017



The NBA forced Sterling to sell his team for saying this poo poo.

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Jan 20, 2017


I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Yeah but there was a recording of Sterling.

Were there recordings of Jerry Richardson? I don't recall.

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Jan 20, 2017


WoodrowSkillson posted:

Lmao goddamn what a way to end your career

Such an insanely high-profile injury ending a Hall of Famer's career on national television in an extremely hyped up game...

Wonder if that'll be the tipping point to finally get rid of artificial turf.

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Jan 20, 2017


drat, a lot going on.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1701623398747537583

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Jan 20, 2017


fsif posted:

Who said anything about retirement?

He's 40 in a couple months and he's been having issues with his calves for years. This isn't like the KD injury.

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Jan 20, 2017


AndrewP posted:

Remember that time Matt Ryan's ankle got basically turned around on that play and we all thought he was done, and he came back into the game? And then after he's like "Yeah I work on my ankle mobility a lot"

maybe more guys should do that

Rodgers has had issues with his calves for years now, wonder if that ended up contributing to the Achilles tear.

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Jan 20, 2017


JAMOOOL posted:

whether or not he'll be any good is another question, history points to no loving way, at this point the high end is maybe Brady's last year, much more likely would be what Manning, Roethlisberger, and Brees all looked like in their final year

Rodgers is going to have essentially zero mobility if he comes back, but his arm should still be fine.

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Jan 20, 2017


Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Is there a turf science TFF poster who can explain the difference in injuries between gass and turf

You know how you can use a silicon trivet as a gripping surface to twist off jar lids and it works way better than just your bare skin?

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Jan 20, 2017


Kalli posted:

The thing that gets me with this.... Hackett is his hand picked OC. He's the guy doing that, you brought him in to do that.

The Packers rarely used cut-block calls when Hackett was in GB (or even before/after that) -- usually only for RBs or TEs taking out players much bigger than them. It was weird seeing a play where both offensive tackles went for cut blocks.

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Jan 20, 2017


Harlock posted:

We just had a super bowl where field quality directly impacted the game and nobody said a peep league wide. Washington's turf ruined RG3's career. The league will just shrug.

RG3 was a rookie and the terrible field didn't affect viewership numbers for the Super Bowl. The league is going to see a sharp drop in views from losing a Hall of Fame quarterback who they'd scheduled to be on primetime for 1/3 of the season.

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Jan 20, 2017


JAMOOOL posted:

wait a sec there actually is a surprise unretirement that would make some sense, Andrew Luck

No chance, he's like 170 pounds now.

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Jan 20, 2017



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Jan 20, 2017


wandler20 posted:

Is Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer?

(He's gonna be on that Netflix series Quarterback for S2)

Stafford is decently far below the average on the PFR monitor: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

Not having any All Pros and only one Pro Bowl really hurts, but that he went to the Rams and immediately won a championship gives him a really strong argument that he would've had a much better career (or at least, public reception) if not for being on the Lions for so long. His counting stats are decent enough.

That "average HoF QB" number (currently 108) is also gonna shoot up quite a lot when Brady, Brees, and Rodgers goes in.

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Jan 20, 2017


Lots of hamstring injuries this year eh?

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Jan 20, 2017


The Packers have a grass field but iirc it's some sort of hybrid grass-turf mixture that holds up better.

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Jan 20, 2017


Luigi Thirty posted:

The entire reason stadiums started using turf is the Astrodome’s field died immediately from too little sunlight being admitted through the skylights.

While looking this up I learned that the Astrodome grass would create indoors rain.

Badass

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Jan 20, 2017


Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

They gotta do something about the onside kick. A 5.5% success rate is a total joke.

What's an appropriate success rate? 10%? 20%?

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Jan 20, 2017


The Athletic had a really good article on the surgeon Rodgers is using. There's a new Achilles repair technique that vastly accelerates the recovery timeline.

https://theathletic.com/4865417/2023/09/15/aaron-rodgers-achilles-injury-doctor-recovery/

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New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers shared a photo on Instagram expressing his gratitude for a successful surgery Wednesday, performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.

Rodgers, 39, tore his Achilles on Monday night in his Jets debut against the Buffalo Bills.

ElAttrache, who is based in Los Angeles at the Cedars-Sinai Kerlan-Jobe Institute, has a high-profile client list outside his work as the Los Angeles Rams and Los Angeles Dodgers’ team physician. He repaired Kobe Bryant’s Achilles and Joe Burrow’s and Tom Brady’s knees.

But his work on Achilles injuries has drawn attention in recent years because of a technique he has used called “internal bracing.”

The specific procedure Rodgers had is currently unknown, but context about ElAttrache’s modern technique — and its corresponding effect on patient recovery time — bears explaining.

The internal bracing procedure involves adding a sutured “bridge brace” over the top of the repair site. That extra support helps protect and stabilize the repair site so the patient can begin physical activity much earlier in the rehab process while the underlying repair heals securely, instead of staying immobile in a large cast for much longer to protect the tendon — the traditional method that often meant Achilles tears were nine- to 12-month recoveries if not longer. The internal brace helps protect the tendon from stretching or straining from movement as it heals.

ElAttrache’s technique and corresponding advancements in the rehabilitation process especially drew attention in 2021, when he performed the surgery on Rams running back Cam Akers — who returned to the field in 5 1/2 months.

“It’s helping to bolster up the strength of that tendon so you can really start going through rehabilitation steps earlier — it’s going to hold up and it’s going to take the stress off of the fibers that were correctly repaired,” said Fletcher Zumbusch, a doctor of physical therapy and a rehabilitation specialist at Providence Saint John’s Health Center in Santa Monica, Calif., when speaking to The Athletic about Akers’ record-setting recovery in a 2021 interview.

“Instead of having many strings trying to tie the ends of two mops together, you really stretch a suture across from the mop (handles) themselves, which really keeps things in place, and you’re not relying fully on those frayed fibers of the tendon.”

ElAttrache also repaired the Achilles of Rams starting right guard Joe Noteboom last year. Noteboom tore his Achilles in mid-October 2022, was able to participate in OTAs and was back to full participation in training camp in July.

In Akers’ case, the Rams training staff was able to introduce specific rehab and physical therapy techniques into Akers’ routine much earlier than usual while simultaneously preventing the atrophy that occurs if the tendon and leg have to remain immobile.

“If you can get motion and get back in normalization, and can gain strength — the sooner you can gain, the less you lose,” Rams head athletic trainer Reggie Scott said in 2021 when explaining the procedure. “If you don’t use it, you lose it. If I don’t use my legs for six weeks, think about how much I have to do to get that back. … That (surgery) allowed us to get ahead a little quicker, with range of motion and strength, specifically.”

Shortly after his procedure, Akers started working through range-of-motion exercises and the Rams put him through blood-flow restriction therapy. He was out of his protective boot and into a walking shoe in about four weeks. By October, Akers was running at 10 mph at 80 percent body weight on the Rams’ antigravity treadmill. After the July tear, Akers was activated by the Rams with three games left in their regular season and he practiced fully with the team.

It should also be noted that Akers had a healthy tendon on either side of the tear, and was 22 years old when he suffered the injury. The rehabilitation process, he told The Athletic at the time, was incredibly grueling.

Still, the Jets seem optimistic about Rodgers’ future with the team. Tuesday, the front-office staff met to discuss the plan for this season and the future, a team source said.

There is strong belief within the organization that Rodgers is not done playing football and will remain a New York Jet.

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Jan 20, 2017


If you fumble it out of bounds it should just be a turnover, full stop.

Don't like it? Hold onto the ball.

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Jan 20, 2017


fsif posted:

They could have done that already!

I don't know if Will Levis is that much of a plus over Wilson.

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Jan 20, 2017


I don't know if going to the surgeon who worked on Kobe, Burrow, and Brady counts as DYOR quackery.

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Jan 20, 2017


BlindSite posted:

I dont understand this fully. He's been deactivated because someone at the raiders org attempted to assault his foster daughter / girl he's acting as guardian for?

Guessing: he probably (threatened to) beat the poo poo out of that person once he found out what they were trying to do to his goddaughter, and got suspended while the Raiders are sorting it out?

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