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Billy Idol
Kult
Vandenberg
Seikima II
Queen
gently caress I listen to so much music in so many languages my spotify rock playlist may as well be a recording of a loving UN meeting.
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- Snowy
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A man whose blood
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Bruce Springsteen is actually really good, but you have to separate his stuff into different eras in order to get it. Modern Springsteen is hit or miss, 90's Springsteen is kind of bland unless you're already a fan, 80's Springsteen has to be separated into 3 segments, the Nebraska period where he was arguably at his peak, the Born in the USA part where he really blew up when it's possibly the weakest his music ever was in the old days because it appealed more to pop culture at the time, and the post Born in the USA part which is really just Tunnel of Love where he stepped back from the spotlight because he understood he would never again hit the height of Born in the USA.
70's Springsteen was his actual golden age IMO, I don't think any of his songs from that period are less than a 7/10 except maybe Night...OK, and The Angel. So none of his songs from then are less than 5/10. Once again this period has to be separated into segments, pre Born to Run and post Born to Run, or rather, pre and post the lawsuit he filed against his manager at the time, Mike Appel, who tried to screw him with a bullshit contract where Springsteen would receive, if I remember correctly, less than 10% of the revenue from his own work.
LIke, if all you heard of Springsteen was Born in the USA, Dancing in the Dark (I had a long period where I disliked Dancing the Dark just because it was always on the radio, but a few years of not listening to it made it sound better to me), Waiting on a Sunny Day (still don't like that one though), maybe some other songs from The Rising or Working on a Dream, I would get it. You listened to pop Springsteen, and it's his weakest aspect. I think he has literally admitted this in one interview or another from years ago.
But man, the whole Nebraska album kicks rear end, the whole Darkness on the Edge of Town album kicks rear end, Born to Run is probably one of the best albums of all time, then you have individual greats like The Ghost of Tom Joad, My City of Ruins, The River, Independence Day, Incident on 57th Street, Wrecking Ball, Youngstown, If I Was the Priest, The Wall, American Skin (41 Shots), Ghosts, Real World, man, I can keep going for hours.
I think a major understated part of Bruce Springsteen's music
is the influence black music had on it. Let's be perfectly clear here, all of rock and roll, period, owes black musicians a huge debt, because before rock 'n roll was rock 'n roll, it was rhythm and blues, it was made by and pioneered by black artists, then a bunch of white people stole it and repackaged it to appeal to a wider crowd of white people who were down with the music but not the skin color. Some of those artists are more forthright about this than others. To me, it feels like the North East Coast rock artists, from the Tri State area in particular, were the best at both incorporating the "black" sound into their music and also giving credit where credit was rightfully due.
I think his most recent album as of now, Only the Strong Survive, which is literally just straight up covers of classic R&B songs is the most modern and clear example of how much black music made Bruce Springsteen, but he was never shy about it nor tried to hide it. It's present in his work from the very beginning, when most people were saying it more resembled Bob Dylan. Bruce Springsteen loves black music and black people, and he always strove to elevate and credit them whenever he could.
I also think a big reason why people might bounce off of him and his music is, quite frankly, dude's old now. The days when he could make a guitar talk and could headline 4 hour shows with electrifying energy all the way through, for months on end, are over. He's in his 70's, a lot of his friends and loved ones have passed on, and he himself is staring down the barrel. He knows there's a very good chance he won't be alive in the next decade or two. So a bunch (not all, but a significant chunk) of his music for the past several years has been introspective and retrospective, dealing with and singing about the aging experience and the feeling of faded glory and all that. To be fair, a lot of old rock artists are grappling with the same thing. The road goes on forever, but you don't. Rock 'n roll may never die, but that doesn't mean its conduits share that immortality.
This went on way longer than I thought I would write, and I still didn't actually go into the specifics I wanted to, but basically, I think Bruce Springsteen is in that category of artists who became so overrated that they are now underrated, and it's not really his fault. I'm not going to blame anyone in the north east, especially Jersey or New York, who hears perhaps too much Springsteen and is sick of it, that's fair, no music no matter how good or bad should be forced down someone's throat, but that doesn't make the music or the artist terrible. He also has an unfair reputation as a "heartland rocker who sings for The Working Class" when to me Bruce Springsteen was always just for the people who just wanted to break out of the lovely situation they were in, he was for the desperate and downtrodden who maybe sat too long in a four walled room desperate to make something happen or get somewhere but felt trapped by their lives and circumstances. Also, he's old and I can definitely see people bouncing off of the music he makes nowadays, a lot of which is more about the state of being an old person and inevitably having to deal with the very real presence of death.
Holy poo poo even my closer meant to wrap this post up went on too long, I'm just going to shut the gently caress up now. I'll end by saying someone in this forum compared Bruce Springsteen to Billy Joel a few years back and said that while Bruce Springsteen is the cheerleader who is rooting for you and wants you to succeed, Billy Joel is the guy who will laugh at you when you fail because we've all been there, and I'd say yeah that's a fair comparison, for good or ill.
I don’t think I’m going to listen to any Springsteen voluntarily but here’s a picture I took in asbury park
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- ~Coxy
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R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
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Ryuichi Sakamoto
Pet Shop Boys
Kate Bush
Bakufu Slump
Yellow Magic Orchestra
Tears for Fears
Jamiroquai
Tad
Kraftwerk
808 State
Nice, I like your list.
Mine:
Queen
ELO
Icehouse
Psuedo Echo
Offspring
Duran Duran
J. Geils Band
Bon Jovi
Bangles
Pat Benatar
If Blondie counts I might swap out Psuedo Echo for them.
Feel free to make fun of my taste in music.
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Sep 15, 2023 05:25
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- Les Os
- Mar 29, 2010
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Hendrix
The Shaggs
Flower Travellin’ Band
DEVO
Funkadelic
Lightning Bolt
13th Floor Elevators
Nihilist Spasm Band
Beat Happening
Merzbow
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Sep 15, 2023 06:53
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- Szyznyk
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Steely Dan
Van Halen
Rolling Stones
Elton John
Billy Joel
Ben Folds Five
Joe Walsh
Thin Lizzie
Rush
Cake
Honorable mention to Jackson Browne for the most perfect and depressing break up song of all time “Late For the Sky”.
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- Disco Pope
- Dec 6, 2004
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Top Class!
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DEVO
The Replacements
The Sonics
The Stooges
Dinosaur Jr
Husker Du
The Clash
Wipers
Lightning Bolt
Pavement
Pixies (for the first 3 records)
Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Sep 15, 2023
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- Call Your Grandma
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Bruce Springsteen is actually really good, but you have to separate his stuff into different eras in order to get it. Modern Springsteen is hit or miss, 90's Springsteen is kind of bland unless you're already a fan, 80's Springsteen has to be separated into 3 segments, the Nebraska period where he was arguably at his peak, the Born in the USA part where he really blew up when it's possibly the weakest his music ever was in the old days because it appealed more to pop culture at the time, and the post Born in the USA part which is really just Tunnel of Love where he stepped back from the spotlight because he understood he would never again hit the height of Born in the USA.
70's Springsteen was his actual golden age IMO, I don't think any of his songs from that period are less than a 7/10 except maybe Night...OK, and The Angel. So none of his songs from then are less than 5/10. Once again this period has to be separated into segments, pre Born to Run and post Born to Run, or rather, pre and post the lawsuit he filed against his manager at the time, Mike Appel, who tried to screw him with a bullshit contract where Springsteen would receive, if I remember correctly, less than 10% of the revenue from his own work.
LIke, if all you heard of Springsteen was Born in the USA, Dancing in the Dark (I had a long period where I disliked Dancing the Dark just because it was always on the radio, but a few years of not listening to it made it sound better to me), Waiting on a Sunny Day (still don't like that one though), maybe some other songs from The Rising or Working on a Dream, I would get it. You listened to pop Springsteen, and it's his weakest aspect. I think he has literally admitted this in one interview or another from years ago.
But man, the whole Nebraska album kicks rear end, the whole Darkness on the Edge of Town album kicks rear end, Born to Run is probably one of the best albums of all time, then you have individual greats like The Ghost of Tom Joad, My City of Ruins, The River, Independence Day, Incident on 57th Street, Wrecking Ball, Youngstown, If I Was the Priest, The Wall, American Skin (41 Shots), Ghosts, Real World, man, I can keep going for hours.
I think a major understated part of Bruce Springsteen's music is the influence black music had on it. Let's be perfectly clear here, all of rock and roll, period, owes black musicians a huge debt, because before rock 'n roll was rock 'n roll, it was rhythm and blues, it was made by and pioneered by black artists, then a bunch of white people stole it and repackaged it to appeal to a wider crowd of white people who were down with the music but not the skin color. Some of those artists are more forthright about this than others. To me, it feels like the North East Coast rock artists, from the Tri State area in particular, were the best at both incorporating the "black" sound into their music and also giving credit where credit was rightfully due.
I think his most recent album as of now, Only the Strong Survive, which is literally just straight up covers of classic R&B songs is the most modern and clear example of how much black music made Bruce Springsteen, but he was never shy about it nor tried to hide it. It's present in his work from the very beginning, when most people were saying it more resembled Bob Dylan. Bruce Springsteen loves black music and black people, and he always strove to elevate and credit them whenever he could.
I also think a big reason why people might bounce off of him and his music is, quite frankly, dude's old now. The days when he could make a guitar talk and could headline 4 hour shows with electrifying energy all the way through, for months on end, are over. He's in his 70's, a lot of his friends and loved ones have passed on, and he himself is staring down the barrel. He knows there's a very good chance he won't be alive in the next decade or two. So a bunch (not all, but a significant chunk) of his music for the past several years has been introspective and retrospective, dealing with and singing about the aging experience and the feeling of faded glory and all that. To be fair, a lot of old rock artists are grappling with the same thing. The road goes on forever, but you don't. Rock 'n roll may never die, but that doesn't mean its conduits share that immortality.
This went on way longer than I thought I would write, and I still didn't actually go into the specifics I wanted to, but basically, I think Bruce Springsteen is in that category of artists who became so overrated that they are now underrated, and it's not really his fault. I'm not going to blame anyone in the north east, especially Jersey or New York, who hears perhaps too much Springsteen and is sick of it, that's fair, no music no matter how good or bad should be forced down someone's throat, but that doesn't make the music or the artist terrible. He also has an unfair reputation as a "heartland rocker who sings for The Working Class" when to me Bruce Springsteen was always just for the people who just wanted to break out of the lovely situation they were in, he was for the desperate and downtrodden who maybe sat too long in a four walled room desperate to make something happen or get somewhere but felt trapped by their lives and circumstances. Also, he's old and I can definitely see people bouncing off of the music he makes nowadays, a lot of which is more about the state of being an old person and inevitably having to deal with the very real presence of death.
Holy poo poo even my closer meant to wrap this post up went on too long, I'm just going to shut the gently caress up now. I'll end by saying someone in this forum compared Bruce Springsteen to Billy Joel a few years back and said that while Bruce Springsteen is the cheerleader who is rooting for you and wants you to succeed, Billy Joel is the guy who will laugh at you when you fail because we've all been there, and I'd say yeah that's a fair comparison, for good or ill.
i used this methodology to explain why you're posts aren't terrible to my girlfriend and she just shoved me into a locker
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- kntfkr
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Asbury Park is loving disgusting. Saw the Pixies there a couple weeks ago and I won't go back ever unless there's a disaster or plague that fixes what it's become. Ew. $50 Parking $60 Parking, OK. gently caress you asbury park. Get nuked. $900,000 for a single bedroom apartment? poo poo rear end loving beach town. You're not Manhattan suck my loving dick.
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- Modal Auxiliary
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Steely Dan
Van Halen
Rolling Stones
Elton John
Billy Joel
Ben Folds Five
Joe Walsh
Thin Lizzie
Rush
Cake
Honorable mention to Jackson Browne for the most perfect and depressing break up song of all time “Late For the Sky”.
This is a legit solid list and I want to add that everyone should listen to "Late For the Sky" immediately because it is a goddamn singer-songwriter masterpiece.
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- Saalkin
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Just gonna plug that King Gizzard's newest Petrodragon is loving amazing.
I swear I've plugged it already somewhere on SA but gently caress it's a good album.
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- Gologle
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The Gologle Posting Experience.
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A bunch of the early Jackson Browne songs are really good tbh. From that album alone I love The Late Show and Before the Deluge
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- MrQwerty
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King Gizzard is good poo poo and I need to go see them at Red Rocks one of these days
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- Orange Cat
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Corrosion of Conformity
Iron Maiden
Slayer
Zombie*
God Lives Underwater
Pop Will Eat Itself
Megadeth
Metal Church
Metallica
Ozzy
(Insert random hairband)
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And Mucky Pup.
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- Earwicker
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king crimson
talking heads
os mutantes
yes
soundgarden
appleseed cast
slayer
tori amos
deftones
nine inch nails
Earwicker fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Sep 15, 2023
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Sep 15, 2023 22:49
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- Arms_Akimbo
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It's so damn...literal.
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Grateful dead
moe.
Allman bros
Primus
Beastie boys instrumentals
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Sep 16, 2023 03:08
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- Earwicker
- Jan 6, 2003
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Grateful dead
moe.
Allman bros
Primus
Beastie boys instrumentals
definitely listened to all of the above while hotboxing cars during lunch in high school. plus tool and cypress hill.
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Sep 16, 2023 04:50
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- redshirt
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Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
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My list is all boomer stuff for..reasons. Also, not in any order
The Who
ELO
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Heart
ZZ Top
The Beatles
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Van Halen
The Eagles
The Doors
If we were adding in individuals then sub in Roy Orbison, Joan Jett and Ray Charles in there somewhere.
What's your single favorite Van Halen song?
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- 20 Blunts
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just looking at my spotify and attempting a list of 10...
Bob Dylan
the Band
Captain Beefheart
Allman Brothers
Rolling Stones
The Ramones album Too Tough to Die haha
Roky Erickson as a header for Bay Area psychedelic rock
John Lennon (tend to prefer "his" Beatles tunes)
Lou Reed
Brian Jonestown Massacre
i like Queens of the Stone Age
20 Blunts fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Sep 16, 2023
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Sep 16, 2023 05:46
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- redshirt
- Aug 11, 2007
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Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
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Jump is such a joyful shot of adrenaline it's hard to argue against it but Happy Trails makes me smile every time I hear it. The Lee Roth version of the band was a perfect blend of psychosis and skill. Every single hair band in the 80's wanted to be Van Halen. Even Van Halen, eventually.
I hate that "song". We can argue about it if you like, but I suspect you won't. So I wish you well and good night.
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Sep 16, 2023 06:07
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- Szyznyk
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What's your single favorite Van Halen song?
Dance the Night Away.
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- Disco Pope
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Top Class!
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They aren't a cliche part of those miserable classic rock boomer lists though
The Clash show up plenty in Classic Rock magazines and stuff, but if Strummer was still with us, I imagine the boomers would hate him based on his trajectory.
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- Bismack Billabongo
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Prince
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- redshirt
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Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
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I forget where the quote comes from, but when one great guitarist was asked who he thought was the best guitarist, he answered "Prince" with no hesitation.
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Sep 16, 2023 13:28
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- Vampire Panties
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nposter
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I forget where the quote comes from, but when one great guitarist was asked who he thought was the best guitarist, he answered "Prince" with no hesitation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
What Prince stunt live on some pretty big guitar dudes
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Sep 16, 2023 13:59
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- Overdog
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by CVG(and can't post for 10 years!)
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What's your single favorite Van Halen song?
Daaaaance the night away.
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- Disco Pope
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Top Class!
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I forget where the quote comes from, but when one great guitarist was asked who he thought was the best guitarist, he answered "Prince" with no hesitation.
Prince was the first guitarist where as a kid I was like "oh poo poo, this can can really play."
I liked Guns N Roses as a kid but never felt that, so I'm not sure how that reflects on Slash.
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- Overdog
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Prince thinks his best song is Purple Rain but it's actually Little Red Corvette, vocally at least.
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- Bismack Billabongo
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My favorite prince song is raspberry beret.
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- redshirt
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Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
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I legit love every Prince song I've ever heard. Are there any bad ones?
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this list. I like this list.
DEVO, the Stooges, The Clash, Husker Du, all those guys are in their 70s. or dead.
