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  new zealand has an election on 14 october  the labour party won a historic majority in 2020 but everyone hates them now. chris hipkins (left) became prime minister after his friend jacinda ardern (right) quit in january. labour is running a small target electoral strategy that doesn't seem to be working so far.  the guy in the hat is probably going to win. his name is christopher luxon and he is a successful business man. the national party is also running a small target electoral strategy, but theirs is working.  the national party is going to enter a coalition with david seymour (he is the guy sitting to luxon's right, above) from the act party. these guys are big-time libertarian freaks they love guns and race baiting and hate woke. act has been polling well because the media finds seymour entertaining, but they've started getting a little bit of scrutiny after 5 of their candidates got exposed as antivaxxers.  i'm going to vote for the greens, who would be looking to form a coalition with the labour party. they're a left-environmentalist party led by james shaw and marama davidson and they currently have a couple of communist mps (pretty cool !). the greens are polling pretty well because they've picked up support from disaffected labour voters they're also running serious campaigns in a few electorates.  te pāti māori is led by rawiri waititi and debbie ngarewa-packer. they're an indigenous rights party that reinvented themselves as left-wing after losing support by supporting the previous national party government. labour would probably need their support to form a government.  winston peters leads the nationalist nz first party. he's been in politics since the 70s, was jacinda ardern's deputy prime minister, and has now reinvented himself a champion for covid conspiracists. nz first got voted out in 2020 but they might make it back. peters and seymour hate each other, but it's possible that luxon would need support from both to form a government. drama! the big political issues atm are inflation and crime. polling currently looks like this:  bike tory posted:exmarx please add this important bit of information to the OP: exmarx has issued a correction as of 06:26 on Oct 6, 2023 |
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Thanks I hate it. Also you forgot the freedoms party
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Sep 16, 2023 12:30
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Winnie wins in a landslide and betting on the horse racing becomes mandatory
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Sep 16, 2023 12:31
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who's going to fix the ram raids
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Sep 16, 2023 12:45
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Way to show your privilege
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Sep 16, 2023 12:47
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redleader posted:who's going to fix the ram raids They don't need fixing as they're quite effective
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Sep 16, 2023 14:44
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which ones are the ones most likely to go full five eyes and start barking at china like the australians did
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Sep 16, 2023 18:06
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I would vote for transformational environmental and economical change that will benefit generations to come but my feelings got hurt as a white cis male so I'm voting ACT and buying rental properties.
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Sep 16, 2023 18:43
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Sep 16, 2023 18:46
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lol that's quite the labour collapse from 2020
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Sep 16, 2023 19:26
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Sep 16, 2023 20:33
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i say swears online posted:lol that's quite the labour collapse from 2020 Their support last time was the anomaly because last election was basically a single issue vote and Labour had lead a successful covid elimination response while the rest of the world went to poo poo. They had been polling consistently in the mid 30s for about 18 months, but in the lead up to the election they had three high profile ministers resign over scandals. The last of these was the justice minister who was drunk, crashed her car and ran away from police. Not a good look in an election when law and order is the #2 issue and also the issue on which your opposition are landing all their punches. mila kunis posted:which ones are the ones most likely to go full five eyes and start barking at china like the australians did Very much the National/ACT coalition, but it's not guaranteed. ACT are big NATO freaks and they will probably push for us to join AUKUS. National will be more eager to continue the IR settings of the current government, which is to avoid taking sides or pissing anyone off as much as possible, while also resisting any changes to the current rules-based order. Also to aggressively pursue new trade agreements with everyone, since we have a completely open economy.
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Sep 16, 2023 20:50
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No more woke
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Sep 16, 2023 20:52
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bike tory posted:the justice minister who was drunk, crashed her car and ran away from police. i think this would play differently in australia
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Sep 16, 2023 20:57
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i say swears online posted:i think this would play differently in australia a lot of the people I know are all-in for a justice minister who says gently caress the police doubt it though, Aussies love the cops as much as kiwis do. Most of the bullshit hardline policy that National and ACT are proposing is imported from Australia
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Sep 16, 2023 21:04
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i'm voting for chris wilson, the inventor of path of exile
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Sep 16, 2023 21:12
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did ardern fully peace out like her finnish counterpart or is she still involved?
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Sep 16, 2023 21:35
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christopher....
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Sep 16, 2023 21:51
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wasent ardern really popular why did she end up resigning
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Sep 16, 2023 21:52
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HallelujahLee posted:wasent ardern really popular why did she end up resigning she got too tired 
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Sep 16, 2023 21:58
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i say swears online posted:she got too tired that honestly sounds true interesting
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Sep 16, 2023 22:01
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i say swears online posted:i think this would play differently in australia the minister was a māori woman and also gay R. Mute posted:did ardern fully peace out like her finnish counterpart or is she still involved? yeah she's fully out
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the first leaders' debate is on tuesday. chris and christopher are both downplaying their chances for example, luxon recently claimed that he's never debated before    https://votecompass.tvnz.co.nz/nz2023/survey check out this quiz if you want to know what party you align with. here's mine 
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HallelujahLee posted:wasent ardern really popular why did she end up resigning Her political "agenda" was basically be nice and try to please everyone. She immediately had a daughter 9 months into her term. She spent the rest of it dealing with the Christchurch mosque massacre and then the covid response. The response from conservatives to a pleasant lady not changing anything much while putting out fires was to scream that she was a divisive nazi communist bitch. She decided she was tired and would rather spend time with her daughter so resigned early to give Hipkins a run in to the election, which he's predictably squandered by promising not to do anything.
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Sep 17, 2023 05:52
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i aint voting for any of these losers and if people whine at me to vote then im voting for national
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CODChimera posted:i aint voting for any of these losers and if people whine at me to vote then im voting for national You're really not going to vote in this, the most important election yet?! Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party are going to be on the ballot as usual, if you don't at the very least vote for them I can only conclude that you are a narc and/or cop. E: help who do I vote for 
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Sep 17, 2023 06:58
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mila kunis posted:which ones are the ones most likely to go full five eyes and start barking at china like the australians did all of them
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CODChimera posted:i aint voting for any of these losers and if people whine at me to vote then im voting for national top voter spotted
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Sep 17, 2023 07:09
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bike tory posted:You're really not going to vote in this, the most important election yet?! im a drug dealer
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Sep 17, 2023 07:12
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Bring back the McGillicuddy Serious Party. Some of their policies are still relevant in today's world: - Standing a dog for parliament in the Hobson seat in Northland. Her policies included the abolition of cars. - Build giant space-mirrors to melt the polar icecaps and destroy all of the foolish greed-worshipping cities of man in one stroke, thereby returning man to the sea - The demolition of the Auckland CBD to create a giant sundial, using the Sky Tower as the gnomon
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Sep 17, 2023 07:13
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exmarx posted:check out this quiz if you want to know what party you align with. here's mine Yo 
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Sep 17, 2023 08:26
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RE: Political compass I hate the framing of this question "The government should put more emphasis on adapting to climate change rather than trying to prevent it." as the real answer is both, we need to do more to prevent it but also invest in mitigations for what's already coming.
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Sep 17, 2023 08:41
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kaiwero posted:RE: Political compass Well yeah, I guess the way I decided to read it is "should we try to stop destroying the planet or should we just insulate ourselves from the effects of it and keep going hog-wild". Obviously there are lots of different ways you can read it and as you say in reality we need to be doing both because it's too late to stop now anyway.
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Sep 17, 2023 08:50
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i thought we fixed the climate already
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Sep 17, 2023 09:15
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how bad's the transphobia so far? can't be an election campaign in a former British colony in TYOOL 2023 without transphobic rhetoric lmao
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Venomous posted:how bad's the transphobia so far? can't be an election campaign in a former British colony in TYOOL 2023 without transphobic rhetoric lmao I haven't been going out of my way to look for it and so far the only openly transphobic stuff I've heard on the TV news was from NZ First who I guess has decided to mash the culture war button as hard as possible to try to remain relevant. I don't think ACT in terms of party policy really give a poo poo and Luxon seems to be trying to appear as a calm and sensible head so also probably wants to avoid grabbing any live wires until after the election. Edit: Also, IMO Hipkins really poo poo the bed deciding to play it 'safe' by effectively announcing they weren't going to make any substantial changes to anything prior to the election. I can only assume it's the same thing that other centre-left parties around the world are trying to to, appeal to as many voters as possible by having no principals, to the detriment of their base. Blackhawk has issued a correction as of 20:16 on Sep 17, 2023 |
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it's not a big electoral issue but: the greens, te pāti māori and labour have all been vocally pro-trans national has said the country has bigger issues than bathrooms, but the christian conservative 'taliban' wing of the party would want to make things worse act has talked about banning trans people from women's changing rooms nz first is campaigning strongly on bathroom sicko stuff all the fringe conspiracy parties are vocal about gender i haven't looked into them but i'm assuming the new 'women's party' is anti-trans as a single issue
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Venomous posted:how bad's the transphobia so far? can't be an election campaign in a former British colony in TYOOL 2023 without transphobic rhetoric lmao We've had one minor party to all-in on the terf bathroom poo poo. They're prooooobably going to get back into parliament. For the major parties it's lurking just below the surface. National have been cagey around poo poo like sex education in school, the deputy leader recently said she thought it was parents' responsibility not schools. Chris Luxon has been asked several times about women in sport and given pretty poo poo answers, and said he defines women by their biology. More recently he's been taking the line that "these issues aren't important to the majority of voters", which neatly avoids taking a personal stance. But he also still says that anti trans people should be allowed to speak in public because of freeze peach. MPs across the spectrum get asked regularly to define "woman", because our prime minister got caught off guard in an interview with a alt media grifter, and stumbled over his answer for like 30 seconds before finally getting around to saying it was a matter of self identification. Even clips of backbench MPs answering the question well get like a million views on tiktok. So yeah, it's bad but this election isn't a full blown culture war over trans rights or anything.
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huh, okay anyway, you're probably hosed whatever happens lmao. iirc Labour did all the atrocious neoliberal poo poo in the 80s around the same time as Thatcher and Reagan, and National accelerated it in the 90s, leaving NZ with incredibly high wealth inequality and child poverty, an increasingly hosed working class, capitalists fellating it for being so friendly to business, that sort of poo poo I guess the best you can hope for now is that NZ First doesn't actually win any seats lmao
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Her political "agenda" was basically be nice and try to please everyone. She immediately had a daughter 9 months into her term. She spent the rest of it dealing with the Christchurch mosque massacre and then the covid response. The response from conservatives to a pleasant lady not changing anything much while putting out fires was to scream that she was a divisive nazi communist bitch. She decided she was tired and would rather spend time with her daughter so resigned early to give Hipkins a run in to the election, which he's predictably squandered by promising not to do anything. yeah that sounds like a typical "center-left "party alright
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