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Just got out of Boy and the Heron It doesn’t quite have the hooks of his previous films. You never feel like you have a strong grasp of what’s happening or why, so you might feel lost halfway through because there isn’t quite as clear of a narrative chain going through it. But now that I’ve left the theater it feels like Miyazaki’s Tempest. The magician “breaks his staff and drowns his spell books” at the end so to speak It’s a retrospective of Ghibli’s filmography where it references past Ghibli characters and settings, very intentional references to shots from past films. And the ending is pre-emptively depicting the end of Miyazaki’s career.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2023 10:15 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 09:46 |
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Okay here’s my big blindfolded swing at the piñata, feel free to laugh at me if I miss Great grand uncle is Hayao Miyazaki Meteor is the spark of inspiration Great grand uncle builds a tower and tunnel system around the meteor, Ghibli Studio Stacking blocks every few days to maintain the magic phenomena represents a respect for the day to day tedium and work required to be creative. Great grand uncle is looking for a successor in his bloodline Mahito is Goro Mahito doesn’t consider himself an appropriate choice for taking over. I feel like the film is absolving Goro of any blame of there not being a successor at Ghibli. Maybe there’s nobody to blame, if there’s no good choice for successor, that’s just life. The parakeets do not respect the block stacking (the work required to maintain the magic) and the entire system falls apart. I don’t know what the parakeets represent other than a very broad criticism of people who want to reap benefits and do none of the work. The pocket dimension into the past and future is the world of films, which depict events both past and future. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Dec 10, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 06:11 |
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References to other films, which lead me to think this is a self-referential movie about Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli: Siren arrow from Mononoke Tunnel through hedges from Totoro Little poofy critters from Totoro and Mononoke Fighter plane windshields from The Wind Rises Old lady from Howls Moving Castle Cooking scene from Howl There’s a ton more I forgot
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 06:21 |
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Something about your read makes me wonder though, what is meant to be evoked by the maternal characters in the movie? That feels so central to the plot and Mahito's internal conflict but I can't tie it to this thesis about creativity No idea and I dont think I know enough Miyazaki lore to take a guess
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 06:42 |
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Producer says Mahito is a self insert for Hayao Miyazaki: https://ew.com/the-boy-and-the-heron-tributes-studio-ghibli-founders-8409403 Who knows!
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 06:48 |
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I can feel my brain expanding with every post
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 09:35 |
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Gonna need to see it a second time to catch all the stuff you guys are pointing out A friend pointed out how water was used for symbolism, drowning in grief, still during peace, crashing waves during turmoil
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 19:57 |
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Yeah, definitely gonna get this on Blu-ray I think the textual story is a little hard to follow because the movie seems so preoccupied with subtext but boy there’s so much to dig into
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 20:37 |
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https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7310409145377770794
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2023 11:02 |
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A lot of times on-camera actors get cast into dubbing just for their name and it turns out they suck at voice acting, but Robert Pattinson is not one of them https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7310987371305045291
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2023 11:19 |
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Reusing stuff from previous films was very intentional and, I think, a way to say “this is about Ghibli, our past and future”
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2023 22:24 |
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Owl at Home posted:I've been turning the movie over in my mind a lot since seeing it on Sunday, and the more I think about it the more I see the parakeets as an extended metaphor for the fans/viewers. Thoughts? Yeah id been mulling this over too, esp in light of the posts about how Miyazaki wondered if anime was living up to being the force for social good he wanted it to be The parakeets are brought into this magical world of imagination, are captive in it, become molded by the tower master. But they just want the end product and have no respect for the work that goes into it (the block stacking) I doubt this is about all fans, just the otaku he seems to have concerns about
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 19:25 |
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Waffleman_ posted:A lot of those posts are fake, he never said "Anime was a mistake" Sure sure sure But the real quote is pretty illuminating about his feelings in this movie Although he’s talking about industry colleagues and not fans here, the core problem is an obsession with fantasy and separation from reality Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Dec 13, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 20:40 |
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The Nausicaa manga is wonderful and is several times longer than the movie goes into interesting places
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2023 02:41 |
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Bald Stalin posted:Why is there a lot of talk about Successors for Miyazaki? There aren't discussions about successors to other writers, directors, producers and other creatives. Is anime the differentiator? People worry ghibli will wither without Miyazaki in a way they don’t worry about other studios that have a deep bench of directors
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2024 02:57 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 09:46 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:and has managed to drive away any potential protégé, and in one case arguably murdered them. I would like to know about the murder. Was it worked to death like in Amadeus
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2024 05:21 |