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Roguelikes are probably my most played genre ever, the classic kind: grid- and turn-based, permadeath, no significant metaprogression, etc.. Roguelites are cool too but I'm one of the dwindling few that insists that words matter and that there should be a distinction. I have accepted that this battle is lost and will not waste time arguing about it. I will talk about them all here and you can too. My favorite -likes these days are Caves of Qud, Cogmind, Rift Wizard and Jupiter Hell. My favorite -lites are Star of Providence, Synthetik and BoI. I've been playing Path of Achra lately, early access game that takes the Rift Wizard formula and focuses it nearly to the point of being an autobattler. Figure out broken builds and blow dudes up. It's fun.
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been thinking it would be fun to have an imp team in the next DCSS tournament.
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Sep 22, 2023 20:26
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DCSS is almost certainly my most played game. Between tracked online time and untracked offline I'm at ~1500h, and that's with not playing much at all for the last 10 versions. I've been unhappy with Crawl's development for a while but I'm starting to get the itch again.
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Sep 23, 2023 17:54
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Qud is amazing and anyone who likes ADOM or Elder Scrolls or Fallout or Dune or good games should play it
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Sep 27, 2023 00:22
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I've never liked ADOM very much but it's been clicking with me recently. I'd like to break the game with a Wizard but I need to get one beyond level 10 first.
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Sep 27, 2023 02:24
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P-Mack posted:Just kick the doors in diagonally this is day one stuff TIL. is there anything in-game that indicates this behavior or is it yet another reason to be playing with the wiki open?
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Sep 28, 2023 01:23
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Arrhythmia posted:First roguelike huh? the genre doesn't have to be riddled with undocumented BS, that's why I like modern roguelikes
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Sep 28, 2023 03:21
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just saying, play Qud/Cogmind/Jupiter Hell/etc.. and you won't run into any Creator's Days
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Sep 28, 2023 03:32
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b_d posted:time to wade into the rogue like thread and complain about surprises edit: he made the drat thread. meh, it’s fair to prefer Crawl’s design philosophy over NetHack’s. I’m trying to meet ADOM on its own terms but I will probably complain about more before I get a win. oddium posted:yep. dredmor did for roguelikes what sim city 2013 did for city builders you’re probably joking but a lot of people like Dredmor. A lot of people like the objectively terrible Rogue Legacy too so there’s no accounting for taste.
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Sep 28, 2023 14:05
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I'm stuck in a 'clear village dungeon > get killed by something I've never seen before' loop. Or I get a wilderness ambush that I don't know how to escape from. Still, having more fun with the game than I've ever had before.
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Oct 2, 2023 01:07
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I hate traps so much that I've settled on a Human Assassin as my first serious attempt at winning. Extra skill points to put into Alertness and Detect Traps.
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Oct 5, 2023 00:26
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I like humans because the extra skill points seem really valuable on backgrounds that have many great skills. Also I'm already considering thief instead of assassin because their class powers seem really strong.
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Oct 5, 2023 04:20
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Nice man, I'm probably still weeks/months away from a win. I keep dying around xl12. Speaking of, what's a reliable way to get a good early thief weapon that doesn't involve burning three talents on an heir gift?
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Oct 5, 2023 16:21
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TIL that some quests are timed and you shouldn't accept them until you're ready andquote:Throwing the corpse of the cute dog at the tiny girl is a repeatable minor chaotic act.
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Oct 5, 2023 23:40
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Wasn't paying attention, got doomed by some karmic lizards in the middle of a big group, and my best run yet quickly fell apart.
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Oct 6, 2023 04:06
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TIL DAMMIT
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Oct 6, 2023 17:12
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I respect the NPCs and they should respect me
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Oct 6, 2023 17:33
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I stash everything while I figure out the rules for item destruction
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Oct 6, 2023 18:07
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lots of bad luck today, my dudes getting killed by xl2 pit viper swarm traps and chaos mutants in the village dungeon. getting annoyed by the amount of clicking required to get through character creation.
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Oct 7, 2023 23:00
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bees x1000 posted:TIL that some quests are timed and you shouldn't accept them until you're ready and I was wrong about the dog quest, it’s timed whether you talk to the kid or not. I’ll save it eventually.
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Oct 8, 2023 05:47
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more things I learned today - you really should have a ranged attack ready at all times - 'archery' works for any 't' action - you can be cursed and lucky at the same time - any monster, even a rat, can stun if your hp is low enough - lightning vortexes will deal ~80 damage in one shot after 40 hours logged my best run is only xl15. I'm learning a lot in that I keep finding new ways to die.
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Oct 9, 2023 05:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQfrHkjvx6g
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Oct 9, 2023 05:39
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welp my best ADOM run yet might be over due to bugs. level 16 Human Assassin, I'd just found robes of resistance to go with my stack of adamantium weapons and longbow of accuracy. I saved at dwarftown and got flooded with error messages and now I can't load that save. I submitted a bug report but if the character can't be restored I'll probably be putting ADOM down. edit: I remembered that the game makes save backups and looked up how to use them. Back in the saddle. edit edit and a vault full of titans killed me very quickly bees x1000 fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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Oct 10, 2023 23:25
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The titan room on like D:17. There were at least 12 of them. I don't really know anything about mid- or late-game but that seems insanely dangerous for that depth level. I can get to Dwarftown with some regularity now but then I never really know what to do. Everywhere seems too dangerous.
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Oct 12, 2023 20:02
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I'll have to figure out how to identify a vault from the outside then
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Oct 12, 2023 20:18
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it could've been the dwarven halls but I don't know. this was my first time going below dwarftown, I thought I was strong enough to explore. I'll check out those quests, I've got another dude back at dwarftown right now.
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Oct 12, 2023 20:35
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Qud is 1. a roguelike and 2. the best roguelike it’s procedurally generated in the same vein as ADOM, with a somewhat fixed world map and major locations
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Oct 12, 2023 21:58
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Does getting intrinsic teleportitis overwrite teleport control? More than once now I swear I've got the control intrinsic but when a pool gets me jumping around I can't do anything about it.
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Oct 13, 2023 22:57
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I was getting the intrinsic from blink dogs, and I made a point of eating another one but got rid of teleportitis anyways because the constant interruptions are annoying as hell. This run is going very well. xl24, crowned with Silence of the Dead and fire immunity, got the fire orb and an amulet of life saving and a load of intrinsics. If I knew what I was doing I could probably just dive the CoC for a normal win at this point, but I don't know what I'm doing so I'm wandering around trying to find potions to deal with my artificial aging problem. what the hell, the minotaur maze was worse than I could've imagined. I did it because I liked the old DCSS labyrinth. I got the stupid achievement, never again. bees x1000 fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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Oct 14, 2023 05:15
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welp I saw a green G for the first time and my game promptly ended
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130 hours later, it is finished.  Got lucky with an aligned altar on the puppy cave cavern, crowned with Far Slayer and fire immunity at xl 11. Inventory managing 15 different types of quarrels is hell, but I was planning on getting the early rune-covered trident anyways so I went all-in on ranged talents after getting the ones for PV and speed. Big stupid thing I did this run was clear a black dragon vault without bothering to drop everything that might get melted. It took my teleport wand and staff of purification and gave me nothing. Wishes used for bracers of resistance, rings of regeneration, an amulet of life saving, and replacements for the aforementioned staff and wand. Getting anywhere in ADOM is a process of finding the landmines and avoiding them the next time, and a lot of wiki diving. I lost late game dudes before this to the banshee, cat lord, stone ooze, room full of ghost kings, and that surprise titan swarm. All of my criticisms about this game still stand but I unironically love it now. Top 5 roguelike.
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I'm probably not going to try for an ultimate win, feels like a lot of work. Maybe if some lunatic picks ADOM for game club. I'm giving Dungeonmans another shot, the constant stupid humor is annoying but there seems to be a competent game underneath.
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I found this dude's channel full of ADOM challenge runs https://www.youtube.com/@SerialDownvoter/videos I noticed that many of his message prompts are actually useful. Corruption is color coded purple, pool intrinsic prompts are actually spelled out, etc.. Apparently there's an 'adom.msg' file you can edit with regex and crap to make the game suck less. Would've been nice to know a few weeks ago.
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I found the dude's adom.msg dump, it has full spoilers for pools, statues, special rooms... whoever compiled this is a crazy person. Posting here for posterity. https://web.archive.org/web/20210302231146/https://pastebin.com/SVxGSgDa I'm not sure where the free version files are located but the Steam file is found in Documents/ADOM/adom_steam/adom.msg.
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There's a 3DS Angband port that I've been meaning to play. ADOM Steam version was in a humble bundle a while back so there's a lot of spare keys floating around. Reseller sites have it for <$1. Being able to pick your star sign is worth that.
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Oct 26, 2023 20:47
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second win came a lot easier. First pool I found gave invisibility and paralyzation+stun+fire res for the low price of dooming. I was right near Dwarftown so getting rid of doom was easy and safe (and tedious). Got crowned with ring of immunity and the casino had boots of the far messenger and at that point there was nothing I couldn't punch through or run away from. I spent the whole run in the ancient mummy wrap. Monk's class powers are awesome but in the end I missed have a big blessed weapon for killing liches and balors. Maybe I should've just used the RCT again? Achievement hunting is in full swing so I made a point of getting the cat ring, needle+sting, and diving to ID:100. Now I'm thinking about doing Iron Man (straight dive the ID for the Chaos Scepter and then leave).
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Oct 28, 2023 16:08
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ASCII mode has been on their dev roadmap for years, the next big update is supposed to happen next month but I don't know if it'll be included.
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Qud is a top 10 GOAT, I've deliberately not played for the last year but I'm jumping back in after a few major updates. Double pistol mutant is my favorite build too, with triple jointed and elec generation for offense, and regeneration and phasing for survivability. Regen and some heat resistance make spontaneous combustion easy to deal with.
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next Crawl tournament starts 19th January. http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-11-december-2023-and-tournament-announcement
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Path of Achra 1.0 out today. I don't think it's as good as Rift Wizard 2 but it's really cool take on the genre and I will play it a lot.
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