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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

frumpykvetchbot posted:

or you know just do the job right. put in some loving concrete blocks that the kids can't easily pickup and throw in the creek.

i mean if you're going to get all fancy about it why not actually just fix the bridge

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syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I'm not gonna blame the guy, I don't know the conditions and also trying to find your way in unknown areas sucks.

I will say tho that Google gave me directions to a local park but for some reason it included a stop at the local police station and instructed me to graffiti the wall and look I didn't know how to get to the park and it wasn't gonna tell me until I did it so I had to yes this is the defence I am using in court gently caress you pigs

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

sex excellence posted:

*sigh*

it's really hard to use ArcGIS and keep it updated.. the dept is absolutely swamped with literal swamp work and adding these bridges is just really really tough and complicated this is just another example of people thinking that it would have been so easy to prevent this..

this part doesn't bother me as much as just put up a barrier you assclowns. i guess the problem is it's a private road?

i guess the property owner was like "i reckon it's their fault for cuttin through my road *spits*" and the city was like " we aint no socialism"

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Imagining a Bob Dylan ballad in the style of Who Killed Davey Moore. "Not me, said the Google man, I'm updatin code as hard as I can..."

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009

its funny because apparently after the guy died some locals bought concrete barriers to put in front of it, shame they didnt think to do that before and lol they probably just opened themselves up to liability by taking responsibility

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




somewhere that private death trap road connects to a public road, and the local government should've barricaded those entrances until the bridge was fixed or blocked off privately

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

how many hicks do you think have threatened/taken pot shots at the google maps mobile over the years

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

them googly maps cars spread coroney virus

The Hello Machine
Jul 19, 2021

I'm not a real machine, but I am a real Hello-sayer.
didn't think google owned a bridge

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
If you believe that then google has a bridge to kill you :rolleyes:

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

boss hog letting the town down again

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Google is responsible for that man's death and the "engineers" who work on google maps have blood on their hands.

Google should be dissolved, their assets sold, and the proceeds used to fund road repairs.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Eeyo posted:

Google is responsible for that man's death and the "engineers" who work on google maps have blood on their hands.

Google should be dissolved, their assets sold, and the proceeds used to fund road repairs.

:hmmyes:

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Did you guys ever realize that Google is how you search for things on the Internet and roads are how you search for things in real life??

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer
Google removed "Do no evil" from their corporate mission statement, so they're absolved of moral thoughts, and the TOS absolves them of liability for driving off a death bridge, so I'm pretty sure they don't give a gently caress, OP

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I lived in a place for two years that was in the middle of a seattle suburb but google couldnt find it, wouldnt accept route revisions, despite a dozen submissions every few months

Death bridge makes sense is all im saying

istewart
Apr 13, 2005

Still contemplating why I didn't register here under a clever pseudonym

frumpykvetchbot posted:

I suspect that the NC city municipality here for whatever reason is too dysfunctional to use such tools, and google simply assigns only very few people to process user submitted stuff. They probably get a bunch of noise through that channel and attempts at organized vandalism so it could be that their over-reliance on algorithmic filters didn't allow these user reports to bubble to the surface.

Given what I know about Google from friends who have worked there, user-submitted map update requests are probably handled by a team of contractors who Google is trying to replace with some sort of automation within a 5-year timeframe.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Does the bridge not show up on satellite pictures? Seems like over the course of a decade someone at Google could have gotten a report of the washed out bridge, checked the satellite photos and determined that the bridge was indeed washed out, and tell Maps not to direct people over it anymore.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Does the bridge not show up on satellite pictures? Seems like over the course of a decade someone at Google could have gotten a report of the washed out bridge, checked the satellite photos and determined that the bridge was indeed washed out, and tell Maps not to direct people over it anymore.

Nope, doing nothing is the best choice according to many folks.

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


Mulaney Power Move posted:

them googly maps cars spread coroney virus

many people are saying this!

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

No. 6 posted:

Nope, doing nothing is the best choice according to many folks.

the death bridge exists to separate the weak from the strong. it may be seem cruel, but that is simply nature’s way

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

No. 6 posted:

Nope, doing nothing is the best choice according to many folks.

Many are saying this.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

Dick Fontaine posted:

the death bridge exists to separate the weak from the strong. it may be seem cruel, but that is simply nature’s way

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Do you think it would've gone over better if Trump promised to circle the nation with death bridges instead of walls?

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

I have now. Thanks OP!


For about a year Google was sending these old ladies to my house for a haircut. Hilarious conversation every time.

Triikan
Feb 23, 2007
Most Loved

Eeyo posted:

Google is responsible for that man's death and the "engineers" who work on google maps have blood on their hands.

Google should be dissolved, their assets sold, and the proceeds used to fund road repairs.

This but not ironically

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




both google and the municipality or county share responsibility

under the current legal framework, when two separate parties share responsibility for a death, neither can be held liable

case closed

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
I can only go by the photo but it sure looks like the council didn't even put up a barrier or warning signs. In which case it's 100% on them. If they did nobody is to blame to except the driver.

There should be flashing lights and reflective warning signs for 500m leading up to it.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



One thing that Google Maps has done to me lately is that it will mildly freak out and tell me I'm going the wrong way. My town has changed the traffic flow in a few places, and some streets that used to be one-way are now two-way, but I guess Maps hasn't got the memo yet. The first time it happened to me I actually pulled off into a parking lot because it made me question my own perceptions. :bahgawd:

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




the annoying thing google does quite often in my county is tell me to exit the interstate and then get on some lower speed limit state road that runs parallel to the interstate, and then get back on at the next on ramp

that might make sense if there's an accident or congestion, but it just does it all the time for no reason. i know to ignore it now, but i bet it gets a lot of people who aren't from around here. whatever route cost optimizer they're using must have a bad metric for that stretch and i doubt it will ever be fixed

i tend to use apple maps now, though, since its navigation instructions are much better

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN
Upset Trowel

Funky See Funky Do posted:

There should be flashing lights and reflective warning signs for 500m leading up to it.

If you look up the location on the actual map you will see that the past tense bridge cuts across the creek from one narrow residential street to another. The whole area looks like normal speed should be 15mph. All they had to do was out up concrete blocks with reflectors at the street intersections on both ends.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

To everyone making fun of this guy for not watching where he was going, please consider that the bridge is in Silent Hill and it's always night and foggy as hell. Thanks you.

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

Toxic Mental posted:

To everyone making fun of this guy for not watching where he was going, please consider that the bridge is in Silent Hill and it's always night and foggy as hell. Thanks you.

looks like someone knows their undead factory towns :hai:

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Bad Purchase posted:

the annoying thing google does quite often in my county is tell me to exit the interstate and then get on some lower speed limit state road that runs parallel to the interstate, and then get back on at the next on ramp

that might make sense if there's an accident or congestion, but it just does it all the time for no reason. i know to ignore it now, but i bet it gets a lot of people who aren't from around here. whatever route cost optimizer they're using must have a bad metric for that stretch and i doubt it will ever be fixed

i tend to use apple maps now, though, since its navigation instructions are much better

last time I used google maps for driving was last year and I had a similar situation. Off and on service roads during rush hour. At some point I turned it off and just winged it and turned out fine.

I still use google maps mostly but I’m noticing that in some cities it’s not as relevant as it is others and hoo boy that’s not fun when you factor in public transit.

Either that or it can’t quite orient itself correctly and will drift a few meters. I am not sprinting by any means, keep up.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

sucking dick beneath the Death Bridge [AMA]

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I use google maps on my google pixel phone and i hate when it just says "turn left" when there are three lefts right next to each other

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

No. 6 posted:

You're right. It's better to do nothing.

Yeah that's totally what I said, top-tier reading comprehension bro :bravo:

Overdog
Jul 12, 2023

by CVG

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Another fake it till you make it town.

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


every city should have a death bridge.

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Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

FYI property developers usually create a new legal entity for their projects that is dissolved after the development is complete.

If youre building a strip mall youll just register as 123 Commercial Drive LTD or whatever. The developer builds it sells it or rents it under a different management entity and dissolves the first one.

If it was a private road as part of some group title subdivison or HOA, the city probably would need written consent from the rightful owner before they could place structures.

Depending on local legislation the city may not have even had a legal mechanism to pursue this. Posession being 9/10ths of the law, its actually quite difficult to build something on land you dont own. Barricading the nearest public road may have restricted local access.

From a muncipal perspective, it would be like someone having an uncovered well on their land. Yes, its a hazard, but the onus is not on the city to cover up or warn you of these hazards on private land.

There may have not even been a set of conditions for the development depending on age, maybe just stamped plans.

In any case I feel bad for this family, but its telling that theyre going after Google. Theyve likely explored other legal options and found dead ends (whoops). I doubt it will have any consequences aside from google putting some "road conditions may vary" warning up. Unless there isnt one already.

Google, as much as it tries to be, is not a 1 to 1 representation of the real world. Especially as you get outside of major cities in the US, poo poo just isnt up to date. The aerial images are dated, streetview is even worse. Its a tragic case of someone trusting their technology too much.

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