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Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Devils Affricate posted:

Maybe you can buy one in another country if you have enough cash?

Does China still execute political prisoners on demand to sell their organs to wealthy foreigners? There are some wild finds in the AliExpress thread.

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Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

ill trade u mine for equivalent value in fine china op we got a deal or…

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Three Olives posted:

Does China still execute political prisoners on demand to sell their organs to wealthy foreigners? There are some wild finds in the AliExpress thread.

Not sure why they'd stop!

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

Thoughts and prayers.

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

I haven't been able to find anything about vaping or weed being criteria for deferral (outside of overt substance abuse), was that something your transplant team mentioned? Also, where in the US are you? Might be worth adding to the OP.

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

Ambassadorofsodomy posted:

According to a few specialists, my kidneys have "an uncountable umber of tumors".

Thus far they are not cancerous, but they might not be something you want OP.

Sorry about your bad ones, and hope that you find a compatible donor and don't get your financial nutsack bit off by hospital bills.

That sounds perfect for a kidney donation! Like, you know how when you are gluing, resining, slipping* something onto something else and you have to rough it up so that there is more surface area for adherence? I’m sure sticking your pre-roughened kidney into someone else’s body would work the same way!

I’m sorry, OP. I am not super healthy and am also poor, so I don’t think I can donate. I did actually think about it though, since at least that’s something that I could do, if I was healthy, to make someone’s life a little less poo poo, barring complications.

*slip is for sticking clay to clay. Not, like, “slipping into something more comfortable”.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

BigBadSteve posted:

Thoughts and prayers.

God bless

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

Modal Auxiliary posted:

I haven't been able to find anything about vaping or weed being criteria for deferral (outside of overt substance abuse), was that something your transplant team mentioned? Also, where in the US are you? Might be worth adding to the OP.

I’m in Oregon

They told me ideal candidates will have no drug use and that smoking in particular is used as a screening metric. I will absolutely take anyone up on getting screened despite weed use, I’m just fairly confident you wouldn’t make it far if you were actively using.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

blight rhino posted:


Since you offered, how would the process work?

Your first step would be to talk to a primary care physician. You would say, “I’m interested in donating a kidney. Do you believe I could be a good candidate?”

If they say yes, you would contact me (or if you’re just giving it to anybody, the kidney foundation) and ask to be screened. You’d read through some consent paperwork and then begin some testing.

You’ll give some blood and urine which will be analyzed by my health care team. You can do the lab work anywhere, the results would just get shared with my team. They will then tell you if they would take your kidney or not.

Crazily to me, the standard for this varies on the institution. My organization has a more conservative approach and will turn down some people who would otherwise be accepted.

If you are not a match for me, we would begin the process to find a paired donation. That means they’d look for another donor who does match my blood stuff and trade your kidney for theirs.

They don’t tell me anything about the candidates who get screened so I won’t know anything about you. They can only tell me if someone is being screened, they wont share names or anything.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

blight rhino posted:

Or, I guess would travel even be required?

This varies but generally the donor would travel to the recipient for transplant. That’s not always the case but more often then not you would travel.

My healthcare pays to get the donated organ to me. I tried talking to a staff member about it and it seems like it’ll cover getting someone over to Oregon to donate. After op care is on the donor however.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

bweep boop! posted:

Can Canadians come down to give you a kidney? Or will bureaucracy stop that? Because idgaf I'd give you a kidney.

I don’t know honestly, I’ll ask my transplant team.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Wait what's the any kidney part of this


Can I give you Zeluths kidney

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

covidstomper58 posted:

Have you thought about long term plans like having a kid?

I got some nieces and nephews I’m trying to plump up real good

And sorry for the multiple posts but I’m phone-posting and don’t have the patience to copy/paste quotes into a draft.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
What's your blood type, OP?

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
I am A+

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

This means you could accept a kidney from someone who is O+, correct? Or does it not work like that.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

What if the donor is O-?

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009
If you donate a kidney, and then later you yourself need another one, do you go to the top of the list?

Aishlinn
Mar 31, 2011

This might hurt a bit..


WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Wait what's the any kidney part of this


Can I give you Zeluths kidney

if you think zel isnt drunk and high constantly, then lol

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
This is an extremely interesting article about kidney donation and kidney transplant chains, total proclick https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/health/lives-forever-linked-through-kidney-transplant-chain-124.html

Your kidney might not match N. Senada at all, but it can still get him a kidney. You might live on opposite sides of the country from the recipient, and they can just pop the kidney on a flight. Donors live as long with one kidney as you do with two. Just really interesting stuff and humanizing stories

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

Sucrose posted:

If you donate a kidney, and then later you yourself need another one, do you go to the top of the list?

In that case they just take the kidney back and reinsert it

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Age: You should be between 18 and 70.

Health insurance: You must have health insurance. If you are uninsured, we can help you obtain coverage.

Overall health: You must have normal kidney function. We also assess you to make sure you are in good physical and mental health. Some health conditions that might prevent you from becoming a kidney donor include active cancer, diabetes, uncontrolled high blood pressure, obesity, or active infections such as HIV and hepatitis.

Primary care provider: We encourage you to have a primary care provider who monitors your overall health. Routine medical care is important to protect your remaining kidney after donation.

Support system: You will need help during your recovery. We work with you to identify those who can support you in your recovery plan.

Our online donor screening form is the first step in donation: https://penntransplant.donorscreen.org/register/now

https://www.pennmedicine.org/for-pa...onor-evaluation

In case someone wants to check if they pass initial screening. Looks very strict and serious and asks for contact info and identity confirmation.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

Sucrose posted:

This means you could accept a kidney from someone who is O+, correct? Or does it not work like that.

Anne has it right. I can take any kidney because we will trade for what I need

Also l, they won’t take out my kidneys. They just tuck the 3rd one in there.

Woodsy Owl
Oct 27, 2004
Obesity? I'm out.

Sorry friend. Voting 5 though.

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

I tried giving my next door neighbor a kidney, but they found out I had renal cancer, and now I'm blacklisted from donating.

Sorry, OP.

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

cruft posted:

I tried giving my next door neighbor a kidney, but they found out I had renal cancer, and now I'm blacklisted from donating.

Sorry, OP.

I wrote this like a joke but it really happened. I got through all the screenings and was just about to drink the stuff that makes you poo poo for 6 hours straight to get ready for surgery the next day, when I got the call.

My recollection was:

  • blood test
  • pee test (like, a liter of pee)
  • second pee test
  • ECG
  • MRI
  • Free counseling where I learned that "quiet contemplation" is a stress coping mechanism and not a sign of personal failure :peanut:
  • Some other kind of nuclear imaging
  • CT scan? maybe that was post cancer.

The recipient's insurance paid for all these tests (until I got blacklisted, then I paid for a bunch of CT scans) so that was kinda neat.

Me going through this convinced a guy up the street to do it, and now my neighbor has a new used kidney, so that's cool. And the cancer wound up not being cancer after all, but it took like 5 years to determine that. And now I can be all smug when someone hits me up for a kidney. And the guy up the street got a cool organ donation license plate. So everybody won, except OP... FOR NOW.

A+ highly recommend donating a kidney, or at least trying to.

cruft fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Sep 28, 2023

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum
Good luck and Goonspeed, I wish you the best :(

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

If anybody's thinking about being a donor I'd be happy to attempt answering questions, here or in a PM.

I got right up to the actual surgery so I probably know more about it than OP does... FOR NOW.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

cruft posted:

If anybody's thinking about being a donor I'd be happy to attempt answering questions, here or in a PM.

I got right up to the actual surgery so I probably know more about it than OP does... FOR NOW.

Truly. I primarily know about the slow march of degenerating organs.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
Here’s a fun fact about my CKD.

WE dont know why they’re all messed up. BUT, my condition has been deteriorating slowly over the course of my life. That likely means that it would be quite a while before I would need another kidney.

Some people degenerate much faster, some much slower.

And if you get multiple organs donated they usually just stack them in. They don’t take things out until they have to.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Donating a kidney has good sides to it: might count it as weight loss surgery.

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

N. Senada posted:

Here’s a fun fact about my CKD.

WE dont know why they’re all messed up. BUT, my condition has been deteriorating slowly over the course of my life. That likely means that it would be quite a while before I would need another kidney.

Some people degenerate much faster, some much slower.

And if you get multiple organs donated they usually just stack them in. They don’t take things out until they have to.

This is how superheroes are made. I say science has gone too far!

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Yeah that's some space marine poo poo

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Any kidneys in chat

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
I like finding kidney related stuff in shows too btw. King of the hill has has two kidney-focused episodes

This one’s where Dale tries to renege on giving his.

https://youtu.be/XDrxZEiFOC0?si=pWDqvVV_MEF7pXnX

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

cruft posted:

If anybody's thinking about being a donor I'd be happy to attempt answering questions, here or in a PM.

I got right up to the actual surgery so I probably know more about it than OP does... FOR NOW.

How much alcohol drinking is too much alcohol drinking to donate?

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

Sucrose posted:

How much alcohol drinking is too much alcohol drinking to donate?

More than one drink per day if you're under about 150 pounds, and more than 2 drinks a day if you're over.

If you have an alcohol dependency, regardless of how much you drink, that's going to disqualify you too.

RavenousScoot
Mar 22, 2013

I don't drink more beer than water per day, but there's a ratio going

I'm eternally mad about healthcare and wish this wasn't even a thread

hope things go better soon

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Like many other goons in this thread I love the chronic and am also on medication that requires regular kidney function tests already so my doctors would probably not like it if I showed up with one less but I sincerely hope you find a donor and can get the transplant you need. American healthcare is a gently caress.

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cruft
Oct 25, 2007

RavenousScoot posted:

I don't drink more beer than water per day, but there's a ratio going

I'm eternally mad about healthcare and wish this wasn't even a thread

hope things go better soon

I like to take the past into consideration when I start getting angry about why we're not moving faster into the future. The fact that we can do organ transplants less than 150 years after surgeons finally agreed it was important to wash their hands: that's incredibly fast progress.

In this particular case, the main bottleneck is a lack of donors. There's lots to complain about with healthcare, sure, but in this case, even people rolling in money are on a long-rear end waitlist.

Donating blood is something many folks can do right now to help out in general. I was a blood donor for years before deciding to give a kidney. It's okay to start with smaller acts :)

cruft fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Oct 1, 2023

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