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Maomao also has just enough tact to not overtly show her disdain for someone more powerful than her (which is everyone), at least not in an obviously disrespectful way. Anyone provoking an open response of disgust or even just dislike is someone who has deeply bothered her.
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disposablewords posted:Maomao also has just enough tact to not overtly show her disdain for someone more powerful than her (which is everyone), at least not in an obviously disrespectful way. Anyone provoking an open response of disgust or even just dislike is someone who has deeply bothered her. I agree with this, insofar as someone deeply bothering her doesn't necessarily reflect her deeper feelings as negative. I read her disgust reactions towards Jinshi as reflecting an underlying fondness with which she's very uncomfortable in contrast with her disgust towards Lakan which is clearly different, as evidenced by Jinshi saying he'd never seen her make that face and hopes he never sees it again.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 18:30 |
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In the english dub, Lakan says, 'Right time, set of circumstances, I could've easily made her mine', which when watching I read as him being annoyed that he had to resort to using, as the dub also says, 'a nasty little trick' which we later find out is pregnancy. Like he's got sour grapes about the whole thing even though he got what he wanted, because it made him feel less powerful and wealthy that he wasn't able to pay her full worth legitimately. Maybe something was lost in translation? Pyrotoad fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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If you'd like, here's how that scene was rendered in the LNquote:“I thought about buying out her contract. Figured I would never meet a woman so interesting again. But life doesn’t always give you what you want, boyo. A couple of interested parties showed up, both very rich, and started a bidding war. Drove up the price.”
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 20:57 |
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pork never goes bad posted:I agree with this, insofar as someone deeply bothering her doesn't necessarily reflect her deeper feelings as negative. I read her disgust reactions towards Jinshi as reflecting an underlying fondness with which she's very uncomfortable in contrast with her disgust towards Lakan which is clearly different, as evidenced by Jinshi saying he'd never seen her make that face and hopes he never sees it again. Yeah, Maomao's feelings towards Lakan go way beyond distrust, she actively loathes the guy unlike anyone else. Also the courtesans at Verdigris House have been protecting her from him for years as best they can, to the point where they have a standard protocol of hiding her away whenever he visits
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 03:04 |
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Pyrotoad posted:Like he's got sour grapes about the whole thing even though he got what he wanted He did not in fact get what he wanted.
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 09:43 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:If you'd like, here's how that scene was rendered in the LN See this makes it a lot less creepy sounding, especially given the prior bits in the story about concubines and courtseans engaging in ploys to get out of relations they don't want and into relations they do. Sadly... it went wrong apparently, schemer hosed up his scheme somehow
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 13:11 |
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I broke down and started reading the manga. I'd planned to after the season finished. I haven't got to this point yet, but I am very much enjoying my second run through with catcat. I'll give my updated impression when I'm caught up, but if you're anime only (or LN and anime only if those people exist) I can definitely recommend the manga for getting another window into the characters. Kinda a bummer to take myself outta speculation chat so I'm relying on y'all to be active!!!!
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 18:43 |
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gwrtheyrn posted:He did not in fact get what he wanted. Also hella this
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 18:43 |
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caught up to ep19 nice way for all the little mysteries to come together a bit. the last scene was so good. loved the music cue and him carrying her out. And we could tell he's a very high standing, but seeing everyone he pass by with their head down bowed to him is so strong GateOfD fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Feb 23, 2024 |
# ? Feb 23, 2024 03:37 |
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Maomao may not want to talk or even think about it, but I still really want to know what's up with That Guy. How much time has passed since the start of the anime? That pink haired girl sure has grown.
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# ? Feb 24, 2024 22:39 |
It's been, what... half a year-ish since the face powder incident? They went through winter and it's warm again now but not fall yet.
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# ? Feb 25, 2024 02:47 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Maomao may not want to talk or even think about it, but I still really want to know what's up with That Guy. A year or so. Kids grow fast when they're young, and we more or less started a few months into her life (Technically the anime started with her birth, but we quickly timeskipped a bit in). They mentioned this episode that one of the earlier cases was the previous year. It's not super clear, but the show probably started in the summer, and we're probably back in summer now. Worth keeping in mind that the entire course of episode one actually took a lot of time. Maomao got kidnapped in the fall (there's leaves falling), the babies are born when there's snow falling, and then we cut to an apparent temperate time. Maomao's probably been around the palace in general for almost two years now. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Feb 25, 2024 |
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It also doesn't help that not every character designer is super good at depicting age in a really granular fashion
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# ? Feb 25, 2024 04:13 |
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More of the alternate manga has updated and it provides some extra details that were cut for time including: Maomao was rehired with the expectation to return to the Inner Palace, but she apparently failed the exams for it despite Jinshi giving her the study materials for it. Maomao's only interested in poisons and medicines (that she tried to bring with her before being told by her dad that those weren't allowed). One of her older sisters did giver her some very expensive makeup to take along though. https://mangadex.org/chapter/56d39c28-a150-4355-af6c-6b2bd20bdfc5 Re the anime: We have finally learned one of Jinshi's secrets. He's taking medieval T blockers
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# ? Feb 25, 2024 21:05 |
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Xelkelvos posted:More of the alternate manga has updated and it provides some extra details that were cut for time including: Maomao was rehired with the expectation to return to the Inner Palace, but she apparently failed the exams for it despite Jinshi giving her the study materials for it. Maomao's only interested in poisons and medicines (that she tried to bring with her before being told by her dad that those weren't allowed). One of her older sisters did giver her some very expensive makeup to take along though. I'm pretty sure that was all in the anime.
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# ? Feb 25, 2024 21:11 |
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yeah it got just a couple of panels in the square enix manga iirc but in the anime she specifically mentions not being good at studying things that don't interest her and failing the exam
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# ? Feb 25, 2024 21:32 |
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Wow, we really got a lot of info on Gaoshun and Jinshi from their chat near the end of this episode. I also like Jinshi finally realized the connection between THAT MAN and Maomao.
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# ? Feb 26, 2024 17:02 |
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Saoshyant posted:I also like Jinshi finally realized the connection between THAT MAN and Maomao. I thought he straight up said it in a conversation with Jinshi, am I misremembering?
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# ? Feb 27, 2024 01:10 |
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gwrtheyrn posted:I thought he straight up said it in a conversation with Jinshi, am I misremembering? He did. And Jinshi even notes that he'd pretty much already figured it out anyway.
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# ? Feb 27, 2024 01:18 |
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Having now moved past the anime-present in the manga, I can heartily recommend picking it up to anyone who's enjoying this show. I don't regret starting now, but obviously waiting wouldn't be a bad call if you think it'd be how you'd enjoy the two more. There's enough differences in, like, shot composition and framing, and how explicit vs clearly implied certain plot elements are and the manga is good enough quality that reading the parts I watched felt great. I think in particular it helped me better understand Maomao, Jinshi, Lakan, and Gaoshun's motivations through the parts we've seen.
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# ? Feb 27, 2024 19:27 |
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A nice little reprise before we barrel into the final movements. What a lovable himbo
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# ? Mar 3, 2024 00:01 |
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PiiKIIIIIIIIIN
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# ? Mar 3, 2024 01:31 |
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I do adore Maomao and her continuing ability to inadvertently send Jinshi into a tailspin of frenetic panic. I also liked the way Lihaku's internal monologue talks about how he'd refuse to allow anyone to talk badly about Pairin, and then we see Jinshi immediately project menace for a moment when Lihaku says something possibly backhanded about Maomao.
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# ? Mar 3, 2024 03:45 |
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I can't believe how invested I am in this show. Looks like next episode Maomao will confront a certain person.
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# ? Mar 3, 2024 11:32 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:I can't believe how invested I am in this show. Same
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# ? Mar 3, 2024 19:21 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:I can't believe how invested I am in this show.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 03:05 |
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how far ahead is the LN official translation of the anime (or likely stopping point of the anime)?
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 12:14 |
The anime should finish up volume 2 this cour. Publication of the LN is up to volume 10 with volume 11 available partly as a prepub. https://j-novel.club/series/the-apothecary-diaries Obvious spoilers if you look at future volumes here.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 12:20 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:The anime should finish up volume 2 this cour. Publication of the LN is up to volume 10 with volume 11 available partly as a prepub. oh poo poo they are really going all out adapting it if 24 eps spanned only 2 volumes.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 12:37 |
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Wow, that is way more volumes than I expected the light novel to be at. If we are just up to volume 2 in the anime, it's surprisingly feeling (to me) that we are reaching if not the end game, at least being half way there. How is still in the first 15%? I can only hope the source material keeps the same quality throughout -- we are certainly not going to see the whole thing animated.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 15:43 |
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That's just the English releases the series is up to 14. And yeah if you like what you've seen so far the rest is just as good. I really hope they do the whole thing because there's a bunch of stuff I'd love to see animated. Edit: I literally started watching anime again after like ten years because of this.
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 15:49 |
I'm reasonably confident there will be more seasons to the anime, or at least they are leaving open the possibility of more. They are introducing characters that aren't necessary for these two cours but who come up in later stuff like Rikuson
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# ? Mar 4, 2024 16:24 |
https://twitter.com/tentenchan2525/status/1765047398085370277
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# ? Mar 6, 2024 13:19 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:I'm reasonably confident there will be more seasons to the anime, or at least they are leaving open the possibility of more. They are introducing characters that aren't necessary for these two cours but who come up in later stuff like Rikuson They seem to closely stick to the manga adaption, which I believe is currently somewhere mid volume 4. So even if it gets more seasons I'd expect it to at least slow down around then. Switching to LN at any point should be easy though, as both manga and anime are very thorough adaptions that don't leave out anything relevant (and actually are worth it even if you start out with the LN as it tends to be somewhat sparse when it comes to describing environments - seeing the setting properly visualized adds a lot to the atmosphere).
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# ? Mar 6, 2024 13:47 |
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Its so good.
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# ? Mar 6, 2024 13:54 |
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Oh no how did Wan Wan get roped into this
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# ? Mar 8, 2024 18:08 |
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I see that it did end up being Xiangqi.
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# ? Mar 9, 2024 21:45 |
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Her going well overboard to put one over her father and I am all there for the pettiness
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# ? Mar 9, 2024 23:26 |
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# ? May 3, 2024 08:54 |
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I did like the bit at the end from Lakan's POV, showing that the only person he currently sees as a person is Maomao. Explains his focus on her, and it looks like we're getting into his whole deal next episode, I'm looking forward to the.
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 01:49 |