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R.D. Mangles posted:So far has focused on acquiring defensive players, hiring a defensive coach, and assembling the worst defense in football for the second year in a row. I have a quibble with this statement alone as the Broncos have the absolute worst defense in football history right now. Hell, they allowed the bears to score 28 points on them effortlessly.
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Android Apocalypse posted:I can only picture the Bears getting a quality QB via free agency and that's by throwing Deshaun Watson-level money at them. I remember being super excited for Jay Cutler for this very reason. Sure, the Bears can't develop a stud QB, so importing a young pro bowler seemed like a can't miss!
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I'm not saying they are the same caliber of player or comparing their abilities, but the Justin Fields situation makes me think about how loving fast Lamar's career could've went sideways if he wasn't drafted by the right team(s) Would Mahomes be the only current great/young QB who even the Bears wouldn't be able to have ruined? I'm not 100% sure even about him, let alone the others Mystic Stylez fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Oct 2, 2023 |
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I didn't watch them yesterday but other than the two turnovers by Fields the offensive numbers look really good. They got the ball to their playmakers and Fields did not have that many running (read: scrambling for his loving life) attempts. Offense clicking or just bad defense?
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This thread will be closed on Thursday night when the Bears beat the Commanders. Till then get your posts out all you want.
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Gorson posted:I didn't watch them yesterday but other than the two turnovers by Fields the offensive numbers look really good. They got the ball to their playmakers and Fields did not have that many running (read: scrambling for his loving life) attempts. Offense clicking or just bad defense? The Bears played like cowards in the second half. They took the ball out of Fields' hands until the last few drives. Then after they had played coward-ball and let them back into to the game. Then Bad playcalling led to a Fumble-Six, and then Justin and Kmet had a miscommunication which led to a game ending pick. Fields was good that game. Just absolute coaching malpractice to end the game.
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Gorson posted:Offense clicking or just bad defense? the Broncos defense has been bad this season in a historical way, so that contributed a lot, yes
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tadashi posted:I thought Justin Fields' thing was also not throwing the ball when he should throw the ball? Oh sure that's part of it. It's impossible to say whether or not that's because he can't see it at all, because he can't see it fast enough, or because he can see it and doesn't trust the dude running the route, either because dudes are constantly running the wrong routes, or making the wrong decisions or a different read. The interception at the end of the game being an example of that. Kmet has his guy beat across the field, but chose to sit down. Fault probably goes on the QB there but it's a miscommunication either way, shouldn't happen.
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Mystic Stylez posted:Would Mahomes be the only current great/young QB who even the Bears wouldn't be able to have ruined? I'm not 100% sure even about him, let alone the others The Bears would have more than likely ruined Mahomes. He would have gone to a team coached by John Fox with something called “Dowell Loggains” as OC and Houston Texans legend Dave Ragone as QB Coach. I’m not assuming any of them would have done remotely near as good a job as the people he ended up with in Kansas City. They’d have put him in a bad offense way too quickly, and while I’m sure some of Mahomes insane physically ability would shine through, maybe most of it, the situation in Chicago could have easily reinforced all his worst habits as he tried to throw to Kendall Wright and Josh Bellamy and dump it to Tarik Cohen.
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BrownThunder posted:This thread will be closed on Thursday night when the Bears beat the Commanders. Till then get your posts out all you want. Washington is 2-2. The Bears just lost at home to the previously winless Broncos (who Washington already beat). Bears will lose by 10.
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The Bears suck so much poo poo that it's much funnier than it is sad at this point.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:The Bears suck so much poo poo that it's much funnier than it is sad at this point. Yeah, at this point my view of this season is basically Bird in a Blender posted:I want to be a part of history. I want to see this team be the first to go 0-17. I want Virginia to live long enough to see this team become the official laughingstock of the NFL. Just all out embarrassment.
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The most interesting thing about the Bears woes, as an outside observer, is the amount of organizational dysfunction happening around the Bears franchise as they continue to lose games on the field. You have a new stadium deal up in the air, a former assistant coach who may or may not have been the subject of a federal raid, coaches telling players to just stay home from games. That 2008 Lions team was a lifetime ago but I don't remember nearly as much off-field turmoil from that season, beyond Bill Ford Jr using the local news to call out both Matt Millen as his dad for doing a lovely job. Hell, I think that season also had the fleecing of Dallas for Roy Williams Jr so it's not like it was all doom and gloom.
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The stadium stuff is whatever, that's gonna get done. That bullshit is just normal poo poo that happens when a team is trying to get favorable tax deals. The DC did some freakbul poo poo apparently and got told to resign. outside of the DC this is just how all Bears regimes in dysfunction end from emery trestman to Nagy Pace. Head coach completely losing the team and being weird and incompetent on their way out.
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I long for the steady hand and quiet professionalism of Marc Trestman.
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R.D. Mangles posted:I long for the steady hand and quiet professionalism of Marc Trestman. Quiet professionalism = no music in the locker room
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Do you think we’ll ever figure out what happened with the Bears DC and his raided house? Or is the NFL just gonna memory hole that?
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Apples McGrind posted:Do you think we’ll ever figure out what happened with the Bears DC and his raided house? Or is the NFL just gonna memory hole that? Has anyone other than the Tanktop Doofus said anything about the house raid? Because I'll wait to hear from an actual reporter.
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Goms. Lmao. Bitch
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why do the bears like having WRs block so much even though they're not good at it. i get it chase claypool looks like he should be good at blocking, but he's not, so....
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Doctor Teeth posted:why do the bears like having WRs block so much even though they're not good at it. i get it chase claypool looks like he should be good at blocking, but he's not, so.... Why do the Bears do anything that they do? 
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The Bears need to adopt my True/False test strategy. I try to figure out which answer makes the most sense. I think logically and critically until I'm certain I've come up with the correct answer. Then I write down the opposite answer because I know I'm always wrong. 100% success rate.
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Redeye Flight posted:The longest losing streak in the NFL is held by the Cardinals, which should surprise absolutely no-one, racking up 29 consecutive losses between 1942 and 1945. This one doesn't get talked about as much for fairly evident reasons -- while the Cardinals have always been bad, there were extenuating circumstances between '42 and '45 that kind of drew the attention of all the actual football talent, and this stretch includes games lost when merged with the Steelers as the Card-Pitt "Carpitts". One thing I’ve never learned about this time period: How were there even enough guys left to play at all? How did anyone avoid being selected for the 1942 NFL Europe Draft?
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Vengarr posted:One thing I’ve never learned about this time period: How were there even enough guys left to play at all? How did anyone avoid being selected for the 1942 NFL Europe Draft? There were a lot of valid draft deferment categories that existed that were pretty common. If you were married and had a kid before September 15, 1942, you were classified as having a dependent and received a deferment. I looked up the Steagles roster and several players (unsurprisingly for the time) had medical exceptions that disqualified them from military service. But a deaf guy (the team's center) can still play football. The punter only had one leg, which also makes for a poor soldier, unless you are literally General Santa Ana?
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R.D. Mangles posted:RYAN POLES Thanks for this writeup. Does this guy have any qualifications at all? Is he just a guy who played Draft Day Sports on Steam
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He did scouting and player personnel roles for the Chiefs since 2009.
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Sash! posted:There were a lot of valid draft deferment categories that existed that were pretty common. If you were married and had a kid before September 15, 1942, you were classified as having a dependent and received a deferment. A drummer with one arm, I can and have pictured in my mind (thanks Def Leppard). But how do you punt with only one leg? Do you just fall cheeks onto the ground after every punt?
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Roquan Smith's Ravens Contract: 5 year, $100mm ($20mm/y), $60mm gtd Tremaine Edmunds Bears Contract: 4 year, $72mm ($18mm/y), $50mm gtd King Poles hemmed and hawed over giving Roquan 20 mil a year for a year and a half during his All-Pro season (he was the only clear and vocal leader of the defense after Poles also shipped off Mack and Quinn, and I have personally watched and enjoyed him since we drafted him at 8 overall), and chose to let him leave only to turn around and pay 90% of that to Tremaine Edmunds, who is not having an All-Pro season, and it looks like Roquan is playing just as well this year so far. Good teams don't let elite players who are playing at an elite level leave. They don't tank either.
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Poles made sense to me at the time, I was moderately hopeful since he was coming from a team that seemed to be good at evaluating talent. He's done a pretty crap job at managing who to sign though. Like the post above about Roquan. Yea he got a guy for cheaper, but he also got a guy who is nowhere close to Roquan's talent. It's like he doesn't grasp what the market is for guys I guess, or maybe who to prioritize. That maybe Eberflus's fault too though since he seems to prefer LB's, when like every other team out there is prioritizing the line.
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Yeah Eberflus being dire is the only reason why I'd be willing to even consider keeping Poles. As I do generally think Poles is good at the future planning and not being reckless part of being a GM. He'd have to have a hell of a story and a hell of a succession plan, and reason why his players were failed by coaching. But I do generally like to give GMs more than 2 years. Especially when the GM was given a list of 3 coaches to hire from Bill Polian. He clearly picked poorly but that situation was so hosed. But not gonna cry if he's poo poo canned.
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Dexo posted:
I've heard this a number of times but never heard who the other two people were on the list, has anybody?
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Dog Faced JoJo posted:I've heard this a number of times but never heard who the other two people were on the list, has anybody? The list I have seen is Jim Caldwell, Dan Quinn(who took himself out) and Eberflus.
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Anderson Koopa posted:A drummer with one arm, I can and have pictured in my mind (thanks Def Leppard). But how do you punt with only one leg? Do you just fall cheeks onto the ground after every punt? He had an artificial leg, but I can't find any source describing which he kicked with
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Sash! posted:He had an artificial leg, but I can't find any source describing which he kicked with The new market efficiency is punters with titanium legs and feet.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:The Bears suck so much poo poo that it's much funnier than it is sad at this point. Definitely this I was a bit shellshocked in week 1 but by week 3 I wanted comedic failure
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