The (Bryce) Young QB Thread - Tell me about your Purdy good or bad QBs

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DeimosRising: Oct 17, 2005; �Hola SEA!

Intruder posted:

"If he stays healthy" I say about my QB who couldn't stay healthy in college despite being the size of a linebacker and got hurt twice in less than three games

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# ? May 14, 2024 05:15

Nervous: Jan 25, 2005; Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

DeimosRising posted:

People buy lottery tickets

I've got a winner this time, I just feel it.

# ? Jan 21, 2024 13:25

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

FUN FACT I picked up somewhere or another today:

Sunday's DET v SF game features the #1 overall pick versus the last overall pick with the starters at QB, Goff v Purdy

# ? Jan 24, 2024 23:17

Cavauro: Jan 9, 2008

drat. i love that

# ? Jan 24, 2024 23:38

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BiggerBoat posted:

FUN FACT I picked up somewhere or another today:

Sunday's DET v SF game features the #1 overall pick versus the last overall pick with the starters at QB, Goff v Purdy

Surely this must have happened before unless something about a playoff game is missing in the statement. Fake edit, just looked at this year�s schedule: Murray and Stanford are in the same division, they played Mayfield, Lawrence, and Burrow this year. That covers the first round picks for 2009, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 and I did not look at the last 3rd of last season when Purdy took over. The last pick starting QB is the hard part of that pairing to find, first round picks are a dime a dozen.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 00:23

Coldforge: Oct 29, 2002; I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Pain of Mind posted:

Surely this must have happened before unless something about a playoff game is missing in the statement. Fake edit, just looked at this year�s schedule: Murray and Stanford are in the same division, they played Mayfield, Lawrence, and Burrow this year. That covers the first round picks for 2009, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 and I did not look at the last 3rd of last season when Purdy took over. The last pick starting QB is the hard part of that pairing to find, first round picks are a dime a dozen.

I think maybe you misread the fun fact?

# ? Jan 25, 2024 00:35

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Pain of Mind posted:

Surely this must have happened before unless something about a playoff game is missing in the statement. Fake edit, just looked at this year�s schedule: Murray and Stanford are in the same division, they played Mayfield, Lawrence, and Burrow this year. That covers the first round picks for 2009, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 and I did not look at the last 3rd of last season when Purdy took over. The last pick starting QB is the hard part of that pairing to find, first round picks are a dime a dozen.

QB's: 1st overall pick vs last overall pick starting in an NFL game

# ? Jan 25, 2024 03:34

SilvergunSuperman: Aug 7, 2010

Intruder posted:

"If he stays healthy" I say about my QB who couldn't stay healthy in college despite being the size of a linebacker and got hurt twice in less than three games

Do you think Car would swap for Richardson straight up at this point?

# ? Jan 25, 2024 04:36

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Do you think Car would swap for Richardson straight up at this point?

In a heartbeat.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 11:04

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Coldforge posted:

I think maybe you misread the fun fact?

BiggerBoat posted:

QB's: 1st overall pick vs last overall pick starting in an NFL game

I must have read it incorrectly, but my brain is still not parsing the statement correctly, even with bolded words.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 15:52

Papercut: Aug 24, 2005

Pain of Mind posted:

I must have read it incorrectly, but my brain is still not parsing the statement correctly, even with bolded words.

Jared Goff was selected with the very first pick in the draft, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 15:56

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Papercut posted:

Jared Goff was selected with the very first pick in the draft, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year.

And they face each other Sunday as starting quarterbacks.

Sorry if I worded it poorly.

Secondary thought: who do you take if you're building a team? I was never real high on Goff and both he and Purdy are kind of "system" QB's that seem to need everything set up really well rather than carrying an offense. I think I'd take Brock Purdy straight up.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 16:20

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BiggerBoat posted:

And they face each other Sunday as starting quarterbacks.

Sorry if I worded it poorly.

Secondary thought: who do you take if you're building a team? I was never real high on Goff and both he and Purdy are kind of "system" QB's that seem to need everything set up really well rather than carrying an offense. I think I'd take Brock Purdy straight up.

I think the only reason to take Purdy is contract considerations. Goff's shown twice that you can build a legitimate contender around him, despite his flaws, and there's still serious questions about what Purdy would even be if you took away this precise system and a roster of all-pros helping him out.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 16:25

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Papercut posted:

Jared Goff was selected with the very first pick in the draft, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year.

That is how I interpreted "overall" as well, but what is confusing me is that that statement true is for the examples I gave as well, but I must be interpreting the statement incorrectly since everyone is telling me so (without any playoff qualifiers).

Matt Stafford was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 9/17/23.
Joe Burrow was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 10/29/23.
Trevor Lawrence was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 11/12/23.
Baker Mayfield was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 11/19/23.
Kyler Murray was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 12/17/23.

It literally happened 3 games in a row earlier this year, so I was originally just trying to see where the novelty of that happening this game is (outside of Lions in the championship game). The hard part is getting a last overall pick who plays multiple games/seasons, after that every game is breaking some record because there have been 6 Mr. Irrelevant QBs in the Superbowl Era, and he is the only one that has actually played as far as I can tell without doing any research on the other 5, though I guess Chad Kelly took a knee once.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:01

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

That�s a good post, path of mind

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:04

Papercut: Aug 24, 2005

Pain of Mind posted:

That is how I interpreted "overall" as well, but what is confusing me is that that statement true is for the examples I gave as well, but I must be interpreting the statement incorrectly since everyone is telling me so (without any playoff qualifiers).

Matt Stafford was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 9/17/23.
Joe Burrow was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 10/29/23.
Trevor Lawrence was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 11/12/23.
Baker Mayfield was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 11/19/23.
Kyler Murray was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 12/17/23.

It literally happened 3 games in a row earlier this year, so I was originally just trying to see where the novelty of that happening this game is (outside of Lions in the championship game). The hard part is getting a last overall pick who plays multiple games/seasons, after that every game is breaking some record because there have been 6 Mr. Irrelevant QBs in the Superbowl Era, and he is the only one that has actually played as far as I can tell without doing any research on the other 5, though I guess Chad Kelly took a knee once.

I assume OP meant playoffs

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:11

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

Pain of Mind posted:

That is how I interpreted "overall" as well, but what is confusing me is that that statement true is for the examples I gave as well, but I must be interpreting the statement incorrectly since everyone is telling me so (without any playoff qualifiers).

Matt Stafford was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 9/17/23.
Joe Burrow was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 10/29/23.
Trevor Lawrence was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 11/12/23.
Baker Mayfield was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 11/19/23.
Kyler Murray was selected with the very first pick, no one was selected before him that year. Brock Purdy was selected with the very last pick of the draft, no one was drafted after him that year. They played each other 12/17/23.

It literally happened 3 games in a row earlier this year, so I was originally just trying to see where the novelty of that happening this game is (outside of Lions in the championship game). The hard part is getting a last overall pick who plays multiple games/seasons, after that every game is breaking some record because there have been 6 Mr. Irrelevant QBs in the Superbowl Era, and he is the only one that has actually played as far as I can tell without doing any research on the other 5, though I guess Chad Kelly took a knee once.

The novelty is it happening in the conference championship game of all places. Purdy is basically the only Mr. Irrelevant who has ever actually been Relevant.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:11

Coldforge: Oct 29, 2002; I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Pain of Mind posted:

That is how I interpreted "overall" as well, but what is confusing me is that that statement true is for the examples I gave as well, but I must be interpreting the statement incorrectly since everyone is telling me so (without any playoff qualifiers).

You�ve got it, but it�s a Fun Fact, not a This Has Never Happened Before fact.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:11

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

My fun fact is that Tom Brady is a dirty child kissing cheater

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:20

Coldforge: Oct 29, 2002; I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Ornery and Hornery posted:

My fun fact is that Tom Brady is a dirty child kissing cheater

This is not actually fun, though it is a fact.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:21

Kalli: Jun 2, 2001

Henchman of Santa posted:

The novelty is it happening in the conference championship game of all places. Purdy is basically the only Mr. Irrelevant who has ever actually been Relevant.

Yeah, the next closest guy is probably... Ryan Succop?

# ? Jan 25, 2024 17:22

AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

I have decided my take on Purdy, which is that his value-per-dollar is off the loving charts and that�s what matters way more than �is he an elite quarterback�

# ? Jan 25, 2024 18:56

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

It's a fair consideration. You're getting a majority of the production of a true elite QB for a tiny fraction of the price.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 18:59

Kirios: Jan 26, 2010

Henchman of Santa posted:

The novelty is it happening in the conference championship game of all places. Purdy is basically the only Mr. Irrelevant who has ever actually been Relevant.

This is Ryan Succop erasure and I will not stand for it!

# ? Jan 25, 2024 20:36

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

AndrewP posted:

I have decided my take on Purdy, which is that his value-per-dollar is off the loving charts and that�s what matters way more than �is he an elite quarterback�

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

It's a fair consideration. You're getting a majority of the production of a true elite QB for a tiny fraction of the price.

It's why the window for the 49ers is really this and next season, before he's extension eligible and you're having to pay him 40m a season and his value is gone.

# ? Jan 25, 2024 23:38

fsif: Jul 18, 2003

Very much in favor of transforming MVP into a backhanded compliment award, given to the league's most underpaid player.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 01:12

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

C. Everett Koop posted:

It's why the window for the 49ers is really this and next season, before he's extension eligible and you're having to pay him 40m a season and his value is gone.

The window for the 49ers is open for as long as they have Shanahan.

They made deep playoff runs with Jimmy G at quarterback.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 01:41

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C. Everett Koop posted:

It's why the window for the 49ers is really this and next season, before he's extension eligible and you're having to pay him 40m a season and his value is gone.

$40m is Daniel Jones money right now. he�s gonna get a lot more than that so long as his level of play stays approximately the same

# ? Jan 26, 2024 02:53

Master Stur: Jun 13, 2008; chasin' tail

Ornery and Hornery posted:

The window for the 49ers is open for as long as they have Shanahan.

They made deep playoff runs with Jimmy G at quarterback.

Yeah its this.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 02:54

Pontius Pilate: Jul 25, 2006; Crucify, Whale, Crucify

Imagining shanahan starting a quote like burrow�s swag of �the championship window is open as long as I�m here� and then quickly transitioning to �but I may be dead tomorrow; we all may be dead tomorrow.�

# ? Jan 26, 2024 03:00

A Sneaker Broker: Feb 14, 2020; Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

Shanahan is the reason the 49ers offense goes VROOM VROOM.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 03:21

Kalli: Jun 2, 2001

Thing is, we know what Shanahan thinks about his superbowl chances with a mid-QB and it's desperately try and trade 3 first round picks to avoid it.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 06:42

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Black Lighter posted:

I think the only reason to take Purdy is contract considerations. Goff's shown twice that you can build a legitimate contender around him, despite his flaws, and there's still serious questions about what Purdy would even be if you took away this precise system and a roster of all-pros helping him out.

Jared Goff has Ben Johnson calling plays for him and Amon-Ra St. Brown, Sam LaPorta, and Jahmyr Gibbs to carry the load on offense. Let's not pretend he isn't getting help from his supporting cast as well.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 11:19

BlindSite: Feb 8, 2009

Grozz Nuy posted:

Jared Goff has Ben Johnson calling plays for him and Amon-Ra St. Brown, Sam LaPorta, and Jahmyr Gibbs to carry the load on offense. Let's not pretend he isn't getting help from his supporting cast as well.

Great supporting cast no doubt but tbh.

Samuel
Aiyuk
CMC
Kittle

Might be the best supporting cast like... ever.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 12:00

Forrest on Fire: Nov 23, 2012

Kalli posted:

Thing is, we know what Shanahan thinks about his superbowl chances with a mid-QB and it's desperately try and trade 3 first round picks to avoid it.

How much of that was a mid QB, and how much of that was Jimmy G was hurt for a significant portion of his tenure? Trey Lance was a stupid gamble he made but I don't know how much of it was on the fact that they had a mid level QB vs they had Jimmy G

# ? Jan 26, 2024 13:25

Nodoze: Aug 17, 2006; If it's only for a night I can live without you

Depending on who you believe, Shanahan wanted Mac Jones and not Lance. Considering his love of Kirk Cousins that isn't really that hard to believe

# ? Jan 26, 2024 14:35

Papercut: Aug 24, 2005

I would not be comfortable with Goff trying to play behind the Niners offensive line

# ? Jan 26, 2024 15:22

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Jimmy G was injured... and very mid.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 16:10

Ornery and Hornery: Oct 22, 2020

Kalli posted:

Thing is, we know what Shanahan thinks about his superbowl chances with a mid-QB and it's desperately try and trade 3 first round picks to avoid it.

He was desperately trying to trade 3 first round picks for Mac Jones.

And even after effectively throwing away three first rounders his team is still, once again, contending with a mid-qb.

Significant reasons that Shanahan hasn�t won a SB in his niners tenure are things beyond his control, injury luck, random bounces of the ball, the inevitability of Mahomes, etc.

E: 28-3 tho

Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 26, 2024

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# ? May 14, 2024 05:15

Kalli: Jun 2, 2001

Ornery and Hornery posted:

He was desperately trying to trade 3 first round picks for Mac Jones.

And even after effectively throwing away three first rounders his team is still, once again, contending with a mid-qb.

Yeah, which is why he was reportedly trying to lure Brady out of retirement this offseason.

Dude has a system that can win with middling QB's and really doesn't want to be doing that.

# ? Jan 26, 2024 17:29

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