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Does Stroud even put up the same numbers if he were a Panther? Because I would argue Bobby Slowik is helping Stroud out more than anything.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:What’s the point of this hypothetical? He’s having probably the best rookie QB season ever, it’s safe to say he’s probably pretty good irrespective of his coaching. I'm just thinking of rebuttals as my family of Panther fans are in my ear non-stop for preaching about Stroud early. He's a drat good player.
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whos that broooown posted:He really was lucky to go to the second worst NFL team. Lovie Smith is forever in the hearts of Texans fans for deciding to win that worthless game.
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IcePhoenix posted:From what I've seen it sounds like Houston still would have taken Stroud It's just wild to me that the entire Panthers brass (at the time) was deadset on Stroud, and their impatient bastard of an owner decided, "Nah. I want the Bama boy."
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FizFashizzle posted:Not that it should matter at all but I understand how someone like tepper could have been put off by speaking with CJ stroud. It’s an evil world we live in. I hope some day all Panther’s fans are freed from the shackles of David Tepper. But yeah, I’ll say Stroud is a Top 5 QB in the league right now.
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1. Lamar 2. Mahomes 3. Allen 4. Stroud 5. Love I'm ready for debates.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Yeah I'm just about there. There's 3 QBs I would say are clearly and definitely better than Love, and it's Lamar/Mahomes/Allen. I hate the Bears with everything I have, but I hope they watch Stroud & Love cook the league and ask themselves, "Why should we keep Fields?"
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Jan 15, 2024 02:58
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Doltos posted:poo poo at this point Bryce might be better than Tua Let's calm down here.
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Jan 15, 2024 04:18
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SKULL.GIF posted:I called this specific play out in the GDT, it's ridiculous how he just slots it in between three defenders all reaching out to bat down the pass. Totally normal things for a QB to be doing in his first year starting. Nothing to see here.
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Jan 15, 2024 06:26
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YOLOsubmarine posted:These days it kind of is a normal thing for a good QB to be doing his first year starting. Mahomes and Herbert definitely had some crazy plays like this. Stroud has this year. Allen was really rough as a passer but even early on he could obviously do some impressive things. Now that I think about it, you are right. At least I can sleep tight knowing we have a guy who has "IT." Now let's pay him before anyone else pays their QB.
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Henchman of Santa posted:New mandate: Draft the lovely tools guy from the Mountain West The next guy up that could go nuclear in the NFL is Avery Johnson. He’s getting coached up by the same coach who developed Love in college, Matt Wells.
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Stroud and Love have the same agent. They gonna get loving paid.
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Stroud and Love will lead the league for years to come. Switching gears however, I believe Michael Penix Jr in Minnesota could be a game changer.
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IcePhoenix posted:The Vikings are gonna give up the farm to draft Daniels, I can feel it in my bones. They need to go young.
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I personally can’t wait to watch Anthony Richardson ball out when he comes back. He had something cooking and the film was backing it up. All he needs is just more reps being honest.
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Shanahan is the reason the 49ers offense goes VROOM VROOM.
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Kalli posted:Yeah, which is why he was reportedly trying to lure Brady out of retirement this offseason. The moment Shanahan gets an elite QB, it's over for the league.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Goff was very good last year when LaPorta and Gibbs weren’t on the team. Goff has been putting up some numbers for a while. He earned a contract extension. Wonder what they do with Hooker.
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BlindSite posted:Part of me wonders if Brady had of signed in San Fran if he would have two more rings instead of one now you mention it. With the roster they have now? He gets two rings minimum.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_QE7bhL1s Field's stans need to realize this guy is going to make the Bears relevant again. I am sorry.
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Doltos posted:Hurts is awful they had to pay him only because the stumbled into a working offense for one year. Really self sabotaging, if you ask me Shane Steichen made Jalen Hurts a really rich man.
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DickEmery posted:Does anyone think Washington would trade up one spot to guarantee getting Williams? From what I have been hearing, assuming Washington lands a deal with Ben Johnson (their preferred guy), they would be okay with either Maye or Daniels.
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Coldforge posted:I'm unsure your Packers point works, because it's a new scheme with almost entirely new personal under LaFleur. Unless it's simply the organization, being well run, makes it more likely the QBs they pick are good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK83pnkIyvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCTDmlYHrpA Multiple players (current & former), coaches, and executives have publicly said JLove has everything you want in an elite QB. The scheme helps, but when a QB can easily recognize a coverage of a fake cadence, change protection, hot route out, etc, it makes for an exceptional talent.
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Coldforge posted:That's a good point. JLove had all the traits and tools (and size) you want from a QB coming out of college, but he did not throw that much and only had one excellent season. Credit to LaFleur, Gutey, and Clements for getting him ready and being patient.
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Intruder posted:It seems really weird to look at the defending champs who are in the conference championship game and think man that team sure hosed itself This upcoming FA & draft they are going in on replacing Mahomes entire WR corps.
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Intruder posted:I hope Stroud starts some kind of health company that the Texans then invest in and he plays on a below market contract while raking in that money Oh, 1000%. Mahomes until he retires, is the best QB in the NFL. By far. He is already a HoF and it isn’t close. With that being said, it is malpractice by the Chiefs FO to give him such lovely weapons. We know he can make it work, but cmon. We want to see him drop bombs to speedy WR’s who don’t have problems with catching or fumbling the football.
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Coldforge posted:So combining your first post with this one, am in correct in saying that you trust the evaluation of quarterback experts, but only if the QB in question meets a certain threshold of traits and tools (and size)? I trust players more than analysts. I don't care what the size a player is. But if the dude is your stereotypical big QB with a big arm that can make all the throws, I want that over any other type.
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Stroud & Love are gonna enter Top 10 QB debates during the off-season and I am all for it. I also believe Bryce Young can turn it around and that Anthony Richardson could break out assuming he doesn't injure himself again.
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