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C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Years ago, before I got banned for shitposting (or posting in general) in D&D, I used to do these long breakdowns of bowl-eligible teams and which bowls I thought they would end up in. I would spend hours and hours researching and projecting and ultimately it would be for naught as Selection Sunday would roll around and all of the previous agreements would be tossed out the window as ESPN would reach into a bin and toss teams wherever they wanted them to be. And then I was told politely but firmly to leave and I could spend my Sundays wondering why in name of all that is holy did I decide to become a Lions fan. But given that I've finally crowbarred open my wallet and given LowtaxJeffrey my ill-gained :10bux:, I can resume spending my Sundays throwing darts into the abyss and marveling at the fact that the Lions aren't a complete shitheap anymore......for now.

Unlike years past, I'm not going to give full breakdowns of each conference. I'll look at who's in and out and who's on the doorstep of either. I'll still try and project bowls at the end because there's nothing more I like than a Sisyphiusian task of futility. You will get my inane commentary and cheap shots whether you like it or not. In the end, this won't matter because ESPN will do what they want and that won't change until next year when FOX and CBS and whoever else get to decide, and the cycle will continue until we get the SuperLeague and a true playoff structure.

Can't wait.


BOWL ELIGIBLE TEAMS: 79 (+3)

ACC: 11 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, Duke, Boston College, NC State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Syracuse
B12: 9 - Oklahoma, Texas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, West Virginia, Iowa State, Texas Tech, UCF
B1G: 9 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota*
P12: 8 - USC, Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, Utah, UCLA, Arizona, Cal
SEC: 9 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Auburn
AAC: 6 - Tulane, SMU, Memphis, UTSA, South Florida, Rice
C-USA: 4 - Liberty, New Mexico State, Western Kentucky, Jacksonville State*
Indep: 1 - Notre Dame
MAC: 6 - Miami Ohio, Toledo, Ohio, Bowling Green, Eastern Michigan, Northern Illinois
MWC: 7 - Air Force, Fresno State, UNLV, Wyoming, Boise State, San Jose State, Utah State
SB: 12 - Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Troy, Coastal Carolina, Texas State, App State, Arkansas State, South Alabama, Old Dominion, Marshall, Louisiana, James Madison*


Official Bowl Matchups

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Matchup
Jan. 1  5:00 p.m.       Rose Bowl (CFP Semifinal)          Rose Bowl Pasadena, California                               #1 vs. #4                    #4 Alabama vs. #1 Michigan
Jan. 1  8:45 p.m.       Sugar Bowl (CFP Semifinal)         Cesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana                      #2 vs. #3                    #3 Texas vs. #2 Washington

Dec. 29 8:00 p.m.       Cotton Bowl                        AT&T Stadium Arlington, Texas                                At-Large vs. At-Large        Missouri vs. Ohio State
Dec. 30.12:00 p.m.      Peach Bowl                         Mercedez-Benz Stadium Atlanta, Georgia                       At-Large vs. At-Large        Ole Miss vs. Penn State
Dec. 30 4:00 p.m.       Orange Bowl                        Hard Rock Stadium Miami, Florida                             ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC          Florida State vs. Georgia
Jan. 1  1:00 p.m.       Fiesta Bowl                        State Farm Stadium Glendale, Arizona                         Group of 5 rep vs. At-Large  Liberty vs. Oregon

Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia Southern vs. Ohio
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Jacksonville State vs. Louisiana
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Miami Ohio vs. App State
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. Fresno State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Boise State vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Texas Tech vs. Cal
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Famous Toastery Bowl	           Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Western Kentucky vs. Old Dominion
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    UTSA vs. Marshall
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    South Florida vs. Syracuse
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Georgia Tech vs. UCF
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Duke vs. Troy
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Arkansas State vs. Northern Illinois
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    James Madison vs. Air Force
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Georgia State vs. Utah State
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Eastern Michigan vs. South Alabama
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Northwestern vs. Utah
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         San Jose State vs. Coastal Carolina
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Bowling Green vs. Minnesota
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    Texas State vs. Rice
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Kansas vs. UNLV
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Virginia Tech vs. Tulane  
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  North Carolina vs. West Virginia
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               USC vs. Louisville
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  SMU vs. Boston College 
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Miami vs. Rutgers
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               NC State vs. Kansas State
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Oklahoma vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Clemson vs. Kentucky
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Notre Dame vs. Oregon State
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Memphis
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Maryland vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Toledo vs. Wyoming
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten              LSU vs. Wisconsin
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Tennessee

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C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 10/8: Failure To Learn From the Past is a Pre-Requisite to Coach

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 1 (Louisville)
Knocking on the Door: 2 - FSU (v CUSE), UNC (v MIA)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - UVA (@UNC 10/21)

Jeff Brohm does it again, taking down Notre Dame in dominant fashion to upset another Top 10 team and be the first ACC team in. FSU and UNC should be in next week, Syracuse isn't good and Miami's going to have a hard time getting over their latest mental blunder. UVA got their first win of the season, albiet over William and Mary, and that might be the highlight of their season.


B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 1 (Oklahoma)
Knocking on the Door: Texas (@HOU 10/21), Kansas (@OSU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0

Another Wed Wibber Wibalwy, another year of Texas Not Being Back. They'll have two weeks to drown their sorrows in those fraudulant Deep Fried Fireball shots before getting in by beating Houston. Kansas' schedule has been pretty easy so far but they've got plenty of chances to get that sixth win, even if Jalon Daniels can't stay healthy, which is a shame. No one has more than three losses, so it'll be a couple of weeks before we can begin thinning the herd.


B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 1 (Michigan)
Knocking on the Door: 4 - Penn State (v UMASS), Ohio State (@PUR), Maryland (v ILL), Iowa (@WIS)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0

Michigan's only given up 40 points this season and yes, "Ain't Played Nobody", but if the Playoff Committee is fair (spoiler they're not), they would put the Wolverines at the top once those start coming out. Speaking of spoilers I really should have put Penn State at eligible and not wasted time. Two weeks is Penn State/Ohio State and the last time that Penn State will have to go through both the Buckeyes and Wolverines in a season. Maryland should take care of business vs. bert and Co., provided that bert can stop trying to burn down the stadium while BBQ'ing. Iowa's one win away but no one cares, everyone just wants to see how far they finish from scoring the 325 points needed to save Brian Ferentz' job. Purdue and Illinois each have four L's, so we'll see them next week.


P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 1 (USC)
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Oregon (@UW), Washington (vs. OU), Oregon State (vs. UCLA)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 (Arizona State)
Knocking on the Door: 0

USC survived another clusterfuck of a game to reach 6 wins. They and FSU are gonna get got by someone; USC's D (or lack there of) is going to be their downfall before too long, and FSU's been playing teams that were too busy beating themselves. Yes BC I'm talking to you. Dogs and Ducks next week should be a barn-burner and the type of contest that the conference needed years ago to stay alive. Beavs have a four game stretch of UCLA/@ZONA/@COL/STAN to rack up wins before closing with their final games vs. UW/OU. Sun Devils declared themselves ineliigble before the season for the crime of hiring Herm Edwards, and even if they hadn't the on-field results would eliminate them.


SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 1 (Georgia)
Knocking on the Door: 4 - Kentucky (vs MIZZOU), Missouri (@UK), Alabama (vs ARK), Ole Miss (@AUB 10/21)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Vanderbilt (vs UGA)

Another year where Kentucky goes into the Georgia game undefeated and feeling themselves, and another year where Georgia curb-stomps them and reminds UK of what it means to be a football school in God's Favorite Conference. I'm still not buying UGA as a true title contender, but I'll at least acknowledge that they should be in contention. I don't believe they're the best team in the country though. Bama feels like a 9-3 team at best, either LSU or Vols will get them before Hugh Freeze and Auburn get a sneaky win. Mizzou has yet to face Dawgs and Vols and Gata, so let's not feel optimistic about them. Vandy's got their perma spot on the struggle bus, and their good buddies Arkansas should be joining them soon enough.


American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0

No one is within a win of making the postseason and no one is within a loss of being disqualified. Yes, I know 6 losses isn't elimination, but if you have half a dozen L's before Halloween that 7th is coming sooner or later. Tulane @ Memphis on Friday y'all.


C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Liberty (@ JAXST 10/10)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State)
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Middle Tennessee (vs, LATECH 10/10), UTEP (@FIU 10/11)

We're about to get the Game of the Year for C-USA on Tuesday with the Flames and the Gamecocks, and no matter who wins we lose because Jack St is ineligible due to transition rules and Liberty wins because God loves them more than you. On the other end of the spectrum, Sam Houston's still looking for their first win of the season in general, Blue Raiders and UTEP are earning their holiday's off the old-fashioned way.


Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Notre Dame (vs USC)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 - UMass
Knocking on the Door: 1 - UConn (vs USF 10/21)

No, UMass isn't techincally eliminated with six losses, but they're facing Penn State so why wait. Notre Dame's eliminated from the playoffs barring everyone falling apart and I believe that Marcus Freeman's starting next season on the hot seat. Army is mid so the Irish might be the only indy bowling.


MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Miami (@WMU), Ohio (@NIU), Toledo (@BALL)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Akron (@CMU), Kent State (@EMU), Ball State (vs TOLEDO)

Wait, how did the MAC let C-USA steal away all of the mid-week TV spots? What happened to mid-week MACtion? What kind of bullshit is this? I demand to speak to a manager.

I'm also guessing Toledo is the best team given that they've scored about 60 points more than anyone else, but poo poo happens in these parts.


MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Air Force (vs. Wyoming), Wyoming (@AF), Fresno State (@UTAST 10/13)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Nevada (vs UNLV), San Jose State (@UNM)

Battle for the top of the conference this weekend, and if Air Force wins, they'd have to be a candidate as the top G5 team given their undefeated record. It'd be down to them and Liberty and gently caress Liberty. Nevada's real bad.


Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 (James Madison)
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Southern Miss (@USA 10/17)

Stupid NCAA rules keeping JMU from winning it all. There's some decent teams in the Fun Belt sitting at four wins; it's a long way away from when the conference might only have 3-4 teams eligible and couldn't fill all their bowl spots. One not filling a spot is Southern Miss, who must have rehired Ellis Johnson when no one was looking.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Rose Bowl: #1 Michigan (Big Ten Champ) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl: #2 Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. #3 Florida State (ACC Champ)

I believe that in this last year the Powers that Be will move heaven and earth and give us one last Big Ten/Pac-12 Rose Bowl. I think Washington is the best out of the UW/OU/USC triumverate, whether they can beat one of those two twice I don't know. I could see where Ducks win this weekend but Dogs win the rematch: all three play each other and I don't see how USC beats either one. Michigan runs the table and sends Ryan Day packing. Oklahoma also runs the table, their closing schedule is manageable. Both UGA and FSU lose; FSU loses early to, oh let's say Pitt that sounds about right, while UGA loses later. It leaves the SEC out which seems unfathomable, but the conference ain't good this year and if UGA can't run it they ain't gonna make it.

Cotton Bowl: Texas vs. Tennessee
Peach Bowl: Georgia vs. Penn State
Orange Bowl: Louisville vs. Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: Oregon vs. Air Force

Only the Orange has a tie-in, with ACC vs. highest ranked SEC/B1G. Louisville has a manageable closing stretch so let's say FSU beats them in the ACCCG and sends the 'Ville to Miami, where they get a #5 OSU and an interim coach. Fiesta feels like we can book the P12CG loser vs. G5 rep, especially if it comes down to Wyoming vs. Air Force, with maybe Tulane or Liberty there if both falter. Georgia ends up in the Peach facing Penn State, Texas to the Cotton and I'm having trouble determining who I think they'll face, I don't have faith in USC/Bama/Ole Miss/UNC to not take a couple more losses right now. Oregon State and Utah also have to go through both the Ducks and Dawgs. I don't believe in UCLA at all, but their closing stretch is a lot easier than anyone else's. Tennessee seems like the least worst choice, especially if they get one of Bama or UGA, so we'll go with them for right now.

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Thomas Robinson Stadium Nassau, Bahamas			C-USA vs. MAC                Western Kentucky vs. Ohio
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Louisiana Tech vs. Louisiana
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    FAU vs. Georgia Southern
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. Tulsa
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Utah State vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Kansas State vs. Washington State
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. 
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Marshall vs. 
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Texas State vs. 
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        vs. Auburn
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        vs. Mississippi State
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Miami OH vs. Troy
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    USF vs. Liberty
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Toledo vs. Wyoming
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Central Michigan vs. South Alabama
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Maryland vs. Utah
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Fresno State vs. SMU
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Eastern Michigan vs. Nebraska
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    Rice vs. Boise State
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           BYU vs. Iowa
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Boston College vs. Tulane
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Duke vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               USC vs. Notre Dame
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Oklahoma State vs. Missouri
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Syracuse
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              North Carolina State vs. Rutgers
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               North Carolina vs. West Virginia
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Kansas vs. Oregon State
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Miami vs. LSU
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Wake Forest vs. Colorado
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Minnesota vs. Florida
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Northern Illinois vs. UNLV
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       Ole Miss vs. Clemson
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Wisconsin vs. Alabama
This "Group of 5" bowl game bullshit pisses me off and I got tired of randomly picking names and trying to figure out which current 2-win team is gonna put together a run and find their way to six wins, or maybe 5-7. Alabama falls to the Citrus amid howls of "retire bitch" and/or go to New England and replace Belichick. USC/Notre Dame is a better game than the Holiday deserves. I will also never stop projecting Duke and Kentucky into a bowl game, you can't make me.

This will change and at some point I'll fill out all the bowls instead of ragequitting at the end.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 10/15: Of Course Spooky Season Would Be Ruled By Pac-12 After Dark

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 3 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Duke (@FSU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 1 - UVA (@UNC 10/21)

FSU and UNC take care of business and earn their sixth win. Duke is in position to play spoiler among the Noles and Heels, mostly because they wouldn't face each other until an ACCCG matchup in Charlotte otherwise. Louisville's come back down to earth after their hot start, the rest of the conference is varying degrees of mediocre except for UVA, who thankfully had the weekend off.


B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 1 - Oklahoma
Knocking on the Door: Texas (@HOU), Kansas (vs. OU 10/28)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 0

Kansas couldn't get the job done at the Pokes and will now need an upset over the Sooners to gain eligibility before the month ends. Texas had the weekend off before heading to H-Town. Everyone else are crabs in the bucket right now.


B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 4 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Maryland (@ NW 10/28), Rutgers (@ IND)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 1 - Purdue (@ NEB 10/28)

Buckeyes and Nittany Lions skate to easy wins before their clash this weekend as we finally start to get some quality games among the B1G East leaders. Maryland fails to get the job done vs. the Fightin' berts and will have to wait two weeks before they can try again at Northwestern. Iowa wins the slop fight of the week and are in the driver's seat for the West title, as much as the car being driven is a kid's go-kart. Brian Ferentz is now about a whole game off pace for scoring enough to keep his job, but there's some god-awful teams left on their schedule.


P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 3 -USC, Washington, Oregon State
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Oregon (vs. Wazzu), Utah (@ USC)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 (Arizona State)
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 0

Huskies win a GOTY contender and are in the driver's seat overall, most likely a rematch against the Ducks for a possible Playoff berth. USC's been playing with fire and has finally been exposed against Notre Dame; with thier closing schedule a 9-3/8-4 record is seeming likely. Utah could be the first ones to pounce on the wounded Trojans this weekend and earn their sixth win in the process. Colorado's loss to Stanford means they need to find two wins among a closing stretch of @UCLA/ORST/ZONA/@WAZZU/@UTAH. Going to be dicey for Prime and Sons.


SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 3 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Kentucky (vs UT 10/28), Ole Miss (@ AUB)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 2 - Vanderbilt (@ MISS 10/28), Arkansas (vs. MSU)

Alabama takes caes of business, though they did let Arky cover the spread. Missouri won a bowl-off vs. Kentucky and remain a dark, very dark, probably midnight-colored horse for both a division title and a Group of Six bowl. Vandy's our first major to 6 wins, while the Razorbacks will be joining them soon enough.


American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Tulane (vs. UNT)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 4 - UAB(vs MEM), Charlotte (@ ECU), East Carolina (vs CHA), Temple (vs. SMU 10/20)

Tulane beats Memphis and takes the lead in the "Murican, with the possibility of a repeat trip to a NY6 bowl if Air Force trips up. The bottom of the conference are all getting close to ineligibility, with the ECU/Charlotte loser picking up their sixth loss. I assume that'll be our Sickos GOTW.


C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 1 - Liberty
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State)
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 3 - Middle Tennessee (@ LIB 10/15), UTEP (vs NMSU 10/18), Louisiana Tech (vs. NMSU 10/24)

I apologize, I feel asleep for most of the Liberty/JaxSt game. It happens, don't get old. Liberty won, they're undefeated and in the C-USA's driver's seat and a potential option for a NY6 bowl if everyone else drops off. Both MTSU and UTEP won last week; MTSU knocking LaTech into the Danger Zone, New Mexico State can put both the Bulldogs and Miners into the Netherrealm.


Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: Notre Dame
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - UMass
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 1 - UConn (vs USF 10/21)

Winners and Losers, Notre Dame dominates USC in picking up their sixth win, while UMass is our first team eliminated on merit with a blowout loss to Penn St. UConn needs two more losses to join the Minutemen, first one comes Saturday vs USF.


MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 2 - Miami, Toledo
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Ohio (vs WMU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Akron (@ BG), Kent State (vs. BUF), Ball State (vs CMU)
Looking at the Door: 2 - Buffalo (@ KENTST), Western Michigan (@ OHIO)

Out of the three that could have gotten in, Miami and Toledo were successful, while Ohio will have to wait and beat WMU this weekend for that sixth win. Meanwhile, we're getting close to eliminating half the conference in the next couple of weeks, though Buffalo's two wins have come in MAC play so who knows what to think about them.


MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 2 - Air Force, Fresno State
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Wyoming (@ BOISE 10/28), UNLV (vs. CSU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Nevada (@ SDSU)
Looking at the Door: 2 - San Jose State (vs USU), Hawai'i (@ UNM)

Air Force comes out on top and is in the driver's seat for both the MWC crown and the NY6 bowl spot, which would be the first to go to a service academy. Wyoming will have to wait two weeks before their trip to the blue fields of Boise to try and become eligible. Fresno State got their sixth, UNLV won the Cannon to get close, while poor Nevada's almost out of their misery.


Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Georgia State (@ ULL), Troy (@ TXST 10/28), Texas State (vs TROY 10/28)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 (James Madison)
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 1 - Southern Miss (@USA 10/17)

JMU gets win six, which means nothing despite whichever bowl tweeting out congrats on eligibility, the cock-teasing jerks. For those who can go, Georgia State is up first with their trip to Lafayette, while in two weeks Troy and Texas State battle for both eligibility and the lead in the West.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Rose Bowl: #1 Michigan (Big Ten Champ) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl: #2 Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. #3 Florida State (ACC Champ)

I think that Washington is better than the 4th best team in the country, but I also think that the Powers that Be can't resist a Big Ten/Pac-12 matchup in the Rose Bowl one last time. This is assuming that these four don't lose, which is a tall task, especially for those facing a potential rematch against their rival in a conference championship game.

Cotton Bowl: Texas vs. Notre Dame
Peach Bowl: Georgia vs. Penn State
Orange Bowl: North Carolina vs. Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: Oregon vs. Air Force

Changes here from last week, UNC replaces Louisville as the ACC rep in the Orange Bowl, while Notre Dame's win over USC means they'll more than likely finish at 10-2, and a 10-2 Notre Dame gets a NY6 bowl invite, this time knocking out Tennessee.

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Thomas Robinson Stadium Nassau, Bahamas			C-USA vs. MAC                Liberty vs. Central Michigan
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Western Kentucky vs. Georgia State
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Memphis vs. Texas State
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        North Texas vs. New Mexico State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Wyoming vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Texas Tech vs. Washington State
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    App State vs. Rice
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Marshall vs. Houston
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Navy vs. Eastern Michigan
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        USF vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Georgia Southern vs. Mississippi State
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Louisiana vs. Auburn
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    TCU vs. Northern Illinois
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami OH vs. UNLV
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Tulsa vs. Troy
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Rutgers vs. Utah
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Boise State vs. FAU
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Ohio vs. Northwestern
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    BYU vs. Wake Forest
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Kansas vs. Nebraska
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Miami vs. Tulane
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Duke vs. LSU
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Oregon State vs. Georgia Tech
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Ole Miss
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  SMU vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              NC State vs. Minnesota
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               Louisville vs. Oklahoma State
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Iowa State vs. USC
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Clemson vs. Florida
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Virginia Tech vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               West Virginia vs. Kentucky
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Wisconsin vs. Missouri
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Toledo vs. Fresno State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       Tennessee vs. Maryland
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Alabama
NGL it's not the greatest set of matchups I've ever produced. At least all the bowls are filled this time, though I'd be amazed if we didn't have a mid-level 5-7 team in there somewhere. The good news is that this will change as it always does, so the dreams of Iowa/Alabama will have to remain dreams and not become reality.

Edna Mode
Sep 24, 2005

Bullshit, that's last year's Fall collection!

Always enjoy this thread. Glad it's back!

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 10/22: Your Favorite Team's Plays Were All Stolen and Then Given Back Out of Pity

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 3 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Duke (@LOU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 2 - UVA (@MIA), Pitt (@ND)

Duke couldn't get the job done at FSU, and thus will have to try and win at Louisville next week to get that sixth win and/or try to stay alive in the ACC race. Meanwhile, UNC once again stared football success in the face and ran away screaming, making GBS threads the bed at home against hapless Virginia. I keep waiting for someone to take down FSU, or FSU to take down themselves against someone, but it may not happen in conference play.

B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 2 - Oklahoma, Texas
Knocking on the Door: 4 - Kansas (vs. OU), Oklahoma State (vs. CIN), Kansas State (vs. HOU), BYU (@UT)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 2 - Texas Tech (vs. TCU 11/2), Cincinnati (@OKST)

Texas holds off Houston to continue to be both Back(c) and bowl eligible. B12's lagging behind their P5 brethren but the dam should be breaking soon with four close, two with reasonable chances of getting in before the end of the month. On the other side, the Bearcats are not enjoying life in the big leagues, while Tejas Tech is in familiar territory.

B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 5 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Rutgers
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Maryland (@ NW)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 4 - Purdue (@ NEB), Indiana (@ PSU), Michigan State (@ MINN), Illinois (@ MINN 11/4)

Rutgers is bowl-eligible before Halloween, as we all correctly called before the season. Buckeyes held off Penn State in a game neither side can be happy with and it's hard to not see Michigan winning the conference for the third straight year, short of someone with authority getting even more pissed at Harbaugh and Co. and striking them down to spite themselves. Pretty clear separation between the haves and have-nots, with five in and Maryland coming off a bye at heading to Northwestern, while four have picked up their fifth loss. Minny, one of the few caught in the middle, can decide some destinies in the next few weeks.

P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 5 -USC, Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, Utah
Knocking on the Door: 1 - UCLA (vs. COL)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 (Arizona State)
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 1 - Stanford (vs. UW)

Washington follows up a massive win by almost making GBS threads the bed at home against Arizona State, winning by virtue of the fact that the Sun Devils have chosen to not be offensive for once. Ducks and Utes both win and are in, with the Bruins looking to join them. Be curious whom among the Arizona/Colorado/Wazzu 4-3 triumverate can get the last two wins they need to get in; they all have five chances but that's no guarantee for these teams.

SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 5 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Kentucky (vs UT), Florida (v. UGA), Tennessee (@UK)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Vanderbilt (@ MISS), Arkansas (@UF 11/4)
Looking at the Door: 1 - South Carolina (@A&M)

Christ, I'm gonna have to put Bama in a NY6 bowl, aren't I? Even if they lose to LSU and lose the west, they're 10-2 and that'll get them in, and if they beat LSU and win the West that's 11 wins, and if they someone win this poo poo conference in a bad year then gently caress me running. Cats/Vols is win and in this weekend, Gators are in if they win the Cocktail Party and when they don't do that, they can beat the Hogs the following weekend. Vandy and Arky are two of the sorriest teams in FBS and if they played anyone who watches without getting paid should be put down for their own good.

American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 1 - Tulane
Knocking on the Door: 2 - SMU (vs. TULSA), Memphis (@UNT)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 3 - UAB (vs FAU 11/4) East Carolina (@UTSA), Temple (vs. NAVY 11/4)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Charlotte (vs. FAU 10/27)

Tulane gets win six and are the first 'Murican team in, with the chance they go back to a NY6 bowl. SMU and Memphis are up next, both with winnable games. Out of our four at the bottom, Charlotte hold off ECU and stays at five while the other three advance. 3-4 FAU can get right these next two weeks facing Charlotte on a short week and then UAB, both on the road howecer.

C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 1 - Liberty
Knocking on the Door: 1 - New Mexico State (@ LATECH 10/24)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State)
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Middle Tennessee (@NMSU 11/4), UTEP (@SHSU 10/25),
Looking at the Door: 1 - Louisiana Tech (vs. NMSU 10/24)

Liberty wins, New Mexico State needs a win Tuesday to get in and they should get it. MTSU and UTEP are both in the danger zone. C-USA isn't that inspiring to talk about.

Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: Notre Dame
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - UMass
Knocking on the Door: 1 - UConn (@BC)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Army (@UMASS)

Sickos Game Of the Week/Month/Year/Decade coming up on Saturday with Army @ UMass. Other than that, may not be anything to talk about with the Independents after that showstopper.

MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 2 - Miami, Toledo, Ohio
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Akron, Kent State
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Ball State (@BG), Western Michigan (@EMU)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Buffalo (@TOL)

Ohio beats WMU to get win six and that'll be it for the MAC for a bit here. Akron and Kent State finally give in to their base instincts, Ball State and WMU will be joining them soon. Buffalo's plan of working their way to eligibility via conference play may have hit a snag with their game at Toledo this weekend.

MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 3 - Air Force, Fresno State, UNLV
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Wyoming (@ BOISE)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Nevada (vs. UNM), Hawai'i (vs. SJSU)
Looking at the Door: 3 - San Jose State (@HAW), San Diego State (vs. USU 11/4), Utah State (@SDSU 11/4)

UNLV gets in, another team we all called before the season. Wyoming comes off a bye week with a trip to Boise for their sixth. Nevada beats SDSU 6-0 to begin their epic comeback. San Diego State and Utah State have the early claim for Sickos GOTY to start November.

Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 1- Georgia State
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Troy (@ TXST), Texas State (vs TROY), Georgia Southern (vs. GAST)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 (James Madison)
Knocking on the Door: 1- Southern Miss (@APP)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Louisiana-Monroe (vs. ARKST)

Troy/Texas State win and in after they both have a bye. Georgia Southern gets in if they win their inter-state showdown. Southern Miss has a trip up the hill to end their misery, while ULM needs to hold off the Red Wolves, who I'm surprised isn't listed here given how bad they were said to be.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Rose Bowl: #1 Michigan (Big Ten Champ) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl: #2 Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. #3 Florida State (ACC Champ)

I'm not moving off this given that I've not been given reason to move off of this. Put in a SEC team at your own risk, I've been down on that league the whole year and I see no reason to change now.

NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: Texas vs. Alabama
Peach Bowl: Georgia vs. Penn State
Orange Bowl: North Carolina vs. Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: Oregon vs. Air Force

Despite their loss, UNC still stays above Louisville to claim the ACC's spot in the Orange. Meanwhile, I'm having to finally do what I don't want to do and place Alabama in a NY6 bowl. They'll replace Notre Dame in the Cotton against Texas; that Texas/Alabama/Notre Dame/Penn State four for three spots may be the secondary race to watch coming down the stretch. 7-0 Air Force has the lead on the G5 spot with Tulane waiting in the wings.


And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Thomas Robinson Stadium Nassau, Bahamas			C-USA vs. MAC                Western Kentucky vs. Northern Illinois
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Liberty vs. Texas State
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    FAU vs. Old Dominion
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. Wyoming
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               UNLV vs. Colorado
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            West Virginia vs. Arizona
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Coastal Carolina vs. UTSA
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Rice vs. Troy
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    USF vs. South Alabama
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Virginia Tech vs. Louisiana
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Syracuse vs. Mississippi State
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Toledo vs. Georgia State
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    Baylor vs. SMU
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami OH vs. Fresno State
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Ohio vs. Georgia Southern
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Iowa vs. Utah
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Boise State vs. Marshall
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Central Michigan vs. Minnesota
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    TCU vs. Washington State
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           BYU vs. Maryland
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Georgia Tech vs. Tulane 
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Duke vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               UCLA vs. NC State
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas vs. Florida
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Wake Forest vs. Nebraska
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               Clemson vs. Oklahoma State
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Iowa State vs. USC
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Louisville vs. Tennessee
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Miami vs. Oregon State
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Rutgers vs. Ole Miss
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Eastern Michigan vs. Colorado State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       LSU vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Wisconsin vs. Missouri
Again, a pretty underwhelming set of matchups, outside of LSU/Notre Dame. I continue to try and will Duke/Kentucky in the Mayo Bowl into existence. It's also a ball of fun this time of year to look at the various G5 3-4 teams and think "yeah, this is the team that will be the ones to put it all together". The good news is that this will change, as it always does, and maybe we'll get some movement up top sooner than later.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 10/29: I am Still Not Putting Georgia Into the Goddamn Playoffs

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 4 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Duke (vs. WF 11/2), Boston College (@ CUSE 11/3), NC State (vs. MIA)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Pitt (vs. FSU), Virginia (vs. GT)
Looking at the Door: 0

Apparently Miami was looking to become eligible last week and either I missed it or I refused to believe it. Duke has a Thursday nighter at Wake to get that 6th win and break their losing skid, they've dropped 3 of their last 4, albiet to ranked opponents. BC has a good chance at Cuse on Friday to get their sixth win, while NC State and Miami get to throw rocks and chew on glass vs. each other. On the flip side, I don't have faith in my "Pitt stuns the world and beats FSU" prediction anymore, while Virginia faces Georgia Tech in a "LOL UNC" matchup.

B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 5 - Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State
Knocking on the Door: 3 - BYU (@ WVU), Iowa State (vs. KU), WVU (vs. BYU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Cincinnati (vs. UCF)
Looking at the Door: 4 - Texas Tech (vs. TCU 11/2), Baylor (@ UH(, Houston (vs. BAY), UCF (@ CIN)

5 are now in for the Big 12, capped with Kansas' upset of Oklahoma and the subsequent vandalism afterwards. Okie Lite and K-State take care of business while BYU couldn't, and the Mormons will have to take a short trip to a conference road game in West Fuckin' Virginia for a win and in game. The conference has really seperated with poor TCU stuck in the middle, and with the bad teams facing each other we should be losing contenders here soon.

B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 5 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Rutgers
Knocking on the Door: 4 - Maryland (vs. PSU), Minnesota (vs. ILL), Wisconsin (@ IND), Nebraska (@ MSU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 0
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Purdue (@ MICH), Indiana (vs. WIS), Michigan State (vs. NEB),
Looking at the Door: 1 - Illinois (@ MINN)

No one got in this past week, because if any conference can rage against the natural order of things, it's the Big Ten. Maryland has four shots to pick up their 6th win, but it may be at Nebraska in two weeks and if not there it may not happen. Wisconsin should beat Indiana because most teams do and that'll decide both their destinies. Purdue can do us all a favor and be competitive with Michigan because that's the funniest option available.

P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 6 -USC, Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, Utah, UCLA
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Arizona (vs. UCLA)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 - (Arizona State)
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Stanford (@ WSU)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Cal (@ UO)

Arizona took down the 11th ranked Beavers while everyone was sleeping and they're another upset over a ranked team away from a bowl. UCLA took down the fighting Deions to get their sixth as the shine is completely off of Coach Prime now, especially since he can't keep his son alive. On the flip side, The Game's looking to be a depressing affair this season.

SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 6 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Kentucky (@ MSST), Florida (vs ARK), Texas A&M (@ MISS)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 - Vanderbilt
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Arkansas (@ UF), South Carolina (vs. JVST)
Looking at the Door: 0

Tennessee wins the win and in vs. Kentucky, who'll have to head down to #CLANGA to find their sixth. Gator can get right against the Hogs, while Jacksonville State might be the ones to finish off South Carolina in the rare cockfight on free television. Vandy is our first our first P5 team to be tosssed out due to their own on-field incompetence

American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 3 - Tulane, SMU, Memphis
Knocking on the Door: 1 - UTSA (@ UNT)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - East Carolina
Knocking on the Door: 3 - UAB (vs FAU), Temple (vs. NAVY), Charlotte (@ TULSA)
Looking at the Door: 2 - North Texas (vs. UTSA), Tulsa (vs. CHA)

SMU and Memphis take care of business, UTSA has a road trip to Denton to find their sixth. East Carolina is done for while UAB and Temple get to come off their bye weeks and face the pain train. Charlotte and Tulsa is the kind of barnburner you cancel your plans for.

C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 1 - Liberty, New Mexico State
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State)
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Middle Tennessee (@NMSU), UTEP (vs. SHSU), Louisiana Tech (@ LU)
Looking at the Door: 1 - FIU (@ MTSU 11/11)

Aggies get in and now we have to wait and see if Hilltopper can find something here, it helps that there's three winnable games down the stretch. Otherwise, that might be it for CUSA bowling unless the NCAA's feeling generous.

Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: Notre Dame
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - UMass, UConn
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Army ( vs. AF)
Looking at the Door: 0

UMass wins the Sickos Game of the Millenium and now Army have to be the ones to solve Air Force to keep their season alive. UConn is finished off by BC and we're real close to not having to talk about the Indpendents anymore.

MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 3 - Miami, Toledo, Ohio
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Akron, Kent State
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Ball State (@ BG 11/1), Western Michigan (vs. CMU 11/7)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Buffalo (@ TOL 10/31)

Other than WMU beat WMU and getting set to face CMU, no one must have played in the MAC this past weekend or something. We'll have to see who out of 4-4 Bowling Green/NIU/CMU can make a run, while the Bulls and Rockets face off on Halloween in what might be the one time you want to watch the Bulls and Rockets play this fall.

MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 3 - Air Force, Fresno State, UNLV
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Wyoming (vs. CSU 11/3)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - Hawa'i'
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Nevada (vs HAW)
Looking at the Door: 5 - San Jose State (vs. FRESNO), San Diego State (vs. USU), Utah State (@SDSU), Colorado State (@ WYO 11/3), New Mexico (vs UNLV)

Wyoming can't get it done on the blue fields of Boise, but should be able to get it done home against Colorado State. Aloha to the Rainbow Warriors, Nevada's about to run off six in a row to get eligible/right with God. Otherwise, it's waiting to see which of the crabs manages to somehow escape the bucket.

Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 3 - Georgia State, Troy, Georgia Southern
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Texas State (vs GASO), Coastal Carolina (@ ODU), Louisiana (@ ARKST)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - James Madison, Southern Miss
Knocking on the Door: 1- Louisiana-Monroe (@ USM)
Looking at the Door: 0

Eagles take down the Panthers and Troy wins the "win and in" vs. Texas State to give the Fun Belt a trifecta. It's not getting any easier for the Bobcats as they have a tough closing stretch. Beach Chicken and Rajun Cajuns have reasonable shots at finding their sixth this weekend on the road. We bid goodbye to Southern Miss, who might be able to take ULM down with them this weekend.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Rose Bowl: #1 Michigan (Big Ten Champ) vs. #4 Oregon (Pac-12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl: #2 Florida State (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Texas (Big 12 Champ)

Finally a chance up top! I'm selling on Washington; even though they beat Oregon and are 8-0, they've looked shaky the past two weeks and with a stretch of @USC/UTAH/@ORST coming up I don't think they survive, especially that game at Utah. Between that and Oregon looking better I'd favor the Ducks in a P12CG rematch, which would put a 1-loss Oregon into the playoffs. Michigan is staying in unless someone steps in and I severely doubt that's going to happen barring a smoking gun, maybe a literal one. I'm also putting Texas in over Oklahoma given the latter's loss this past weekend. I'm also now thinking no one might be able to take down FSU in the ACC and as such I swap the jersey colors for the ACC/B12 game in the Sugar. Finally, I still don't believe in Georgia and I don't think they survive this upcoming Mizzou/Ole Miss/Tennessee stretch. He who loses last loses the most, and if Georgia's loss comes after their future conferences mates, I think that leaves the Dawgs on the outside looking in. Of course, ESPN would almost certainly think different but gently caress them these are my predictions suck my whole rear end in a top hat.


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Georgia
Peach Bowl: Alabama vs. Penn State
Orange Bowl: Louisville vs. Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: Washington vs. Air Force

UNC's true committment to running away screaming in the face of football success means Louisville reclaims the ACC's spot in the Orange. Sooner and Husky swap with their conference mates, and gently caress it let's have that Oklahoma/Georgia game that was supposed to happen after all.

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Western Kentucky vs. Bowling Green
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Liberty vs. Louisiana
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. App State
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. Fresno State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               UNLV vs. Colorado
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            BYU vs. Arizona
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Coastal Carolina vs. South Alabama
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Texas State vs. Arkansas State
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Troy vs. FAU
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        USF vs. Kentucky
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Memphis vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Ohio vs. Georgia Southern
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    Navy vs. Washington State
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami OH vs. Wyoming
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Toledo vs. Old Dominion
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Wisconsin vs. Utah
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Boise State vs. Rice 
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              CMU vs. Northwestern
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    TCU vs. UTSA
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Kansas vs. Maryland
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Miami vs. Tulane
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Clemson vs. Iowa
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               UCLA vs. Georgia Tech
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Tennessee
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  SMU  vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              NC State vs. Rutgers
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               Duke vs. Oklahoma State
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Iowa State vs. USC
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  North Carolina vs. LSU
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Virginia Tech vs. Oregon State
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               West Virginia vs. Florida
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Nebraska vs. Missouri
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  NIU vs. San Jose State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       Ole Miss vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Minnesota vs. LSU
I just found out that the Bahamas Bowl is not, in fact, taking place in the Bahamas but is in Charlotte's stadium. Not the Panthers but the 49ers. To which I respond Bitch, What The gently caress. The Group of Five bowls are a clusterfuck with a ton of inner Sun Belt matchups which will have to be better planned out by bowl owners ESPN. Other than that, another ugly set of bowls tbh.

First playoff rankings are out on Tuesday, I may do another set of predictions from there if they greatly differ from mine.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
AIR FORCE

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
IF THE PLAYOFF STARTED TODAY, 10/31/23

PLAYOFF

#1 Ohio State (Big Ten Champs) vs. #4 Florida State (ACC Champs)
#2 Georgia (SEC Champs) vs. #3 Michigan (At-Large)


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: #7 Texas (Big 12 Champs) vs. #10 Ole Miss (At-Large)
Peach Bowl: #6 Oregon (At-Large) vs. #9 Oklahoma (At-Large)
Orange Bowl: #13 Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. #8 Alabama (SEC/B1G Rep)
Fiesta Bowl: #5 Washington (Pac-12 Champs) vs. #24 Tulane (Ground of 5 Rep)


B1G gets their big two in again in a scenario where I assume Ohio State beats Michigan and goes 13-0 while 11-1 Michigan gets the nod over undefeated FSU due to the committee avoiding a rematch. Georgia goes 13-0 against their tissue paper soft schedule and makes it in after all.

As for the NY6 Bowls, Louisville claims the ACC's autobid to the Orange Bowl, where they face the highest ranked SEC/B1G non-playoff team, #8 Bama. Tulane is ranked one spot ahead of Air Force and that'll give the Wave the G5 bid for the second straight year, their reward is a trip to the Fiesta and face #5 Washington. Then it's a matter of splitting up the Big 12 teams; champs Texas are all the way Back (c) to the Cotton Bowl where they get Ole Miss, runner up Oklahoma faces off with Pac-12 Champs Oregon in the Peach.

And the rest:

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Bowling Green vs. South Aabama
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Liberty vs. Troy
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    South Florida vs. Texas State
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. UNLV
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Air Force vs. Colorado
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            TCU vs. Arizona
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia Southern vs. Old Dominion
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Rice vs. Wyoming
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Central Michigan vs. Coastal Carolina
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Washington State vs. Mississippi State
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Florida Atlantic vs. Northwestern
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Miami Ohio vs. Georgia State
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    BYU vs. SMU
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Northern Illinois vs. San Jose State
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Toledo vs. vs, Idaho State
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Minnesota vs. UCLA
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Fresno State vs. Eastern Michigan
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Ohio vs. Maryland
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    Navy vs. Ohio
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           West Virginia vs. Wisconsin
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  UTSA vs. Miami
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Georgia Tech vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Utah vs. Duke
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Clemson vs. Rutgers
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               NC State vs. Oklahoma State
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Kansas vs. Oregon State
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               North Carolina vs. USC
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Florida
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Arkanasas State vs. Boise State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       LSU vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Penn State vs. Missouri
In my defense, I was very tired when I made this. Some okay matchups, suc as LSU/Irish. But, per usual, this be nothing but a pipe dream and will have all changed by the time we reach Saturday, much less December

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 11/5: All Wagon No Cattle

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 7 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, Duke, Boston College, NC State
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Georgia Tech (@ CLEM), Clemson (vs GT)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Pitt, Virignia
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 3 - Virginia Tech (@ BC), Wake Forest (vs. NCST), Syracuse (vs. PITT)

FSU is the first P5 team to clinch a spot in their conference's championship game, where they'll face mostly likely either Louisville or...::looks closely:: Georgia Tech?whatthefuckanyway

Everyone who had a chance to get in got it. Clemson and Georgia Tech is, somehow, a Win and In game, and if GT doesn't pull yet another upset they'd better beat Cuse in two weeks because even I'm not that down on the Dawgs. We lose Pitt and UVA but put three more on the mantle as the .500 teams start to become line straddlers. Deacon really needed that one vs. Duke and now need to beat either State or Notre Dame, along with Cuse, to find that sixth win.

I also need a Dabo Sweeney promo against the fans each week now. I need the Dabo Sweeney Heel Turn. I need a full fifteen minutes Roman Reigns entrance coming down the hill. Do it Dabo. Give into that inner urge.


B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 6 - Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia
Knocking on the Door: 2 - BYU (@ ISU), Iowa State (vs. BYU)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - Cincinnati
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Baylor (@ KST)
Looking at the Door: 4 - Texas Tech (@ KU), TCU (vs UT), Houston (vs CIN), UCF (vs OSU)

WVU takes care of business vs. the Mormons to be the sixth in for the Big 12 and probably save Neal Brown's job. BYU's path isn't guaranteed here, with their last three being a Win and In vs. ISU then OU/@OSU. Welcome to conference play, Army and UMass ain't coming round these parts.

On the flip side the Skyline's gone bad for Cincy, Baylor loses the fail bowl vs H-Town and are looking up at the lights. Cougars have games vs. Cincy and UCF coming down the stretch so their old 'Murican mates might be able to help them out one last time.

Also, lolsooner. Nuts done fell off the wagon.


B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 5 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Rutgers
Knocking on the Door: 4 - Maryland (@ NEB), Minnesota (@ PUR), Wisconsin (vs. NW), Nebraska (vs. MD)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - Purdue
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Indiana (@ ILL), Michigan State (@ OSU)
Looking at the Door: 2 - Illinois (vs. IU), Northwestern (@ UW)

Of course it would be this stubborn rear end god forbidden conference that would have FOUR~! teams needing a win to become eligible and not a single one of these shitheaps would get said win. You morons. You stupid cocksuckers. I don't know why Michigan stole your signs you clearly didn't know what they were to begin with or what to do with them.

Well, let's try this again. Maryland at Nebraska is a Win and In, meaning one of these stupid fucks are gonna make the postseason in spite of themselves. Minny and Wiscy each have reasonable chances next week as well. On the contrary, we bid adieu to Purdue, while Indiana has a chance to stay alive while Sparty does not.


P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 7 - USC, Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, Utah, UCLA, Arizona
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 - (Arizona State)
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Stanford (@ OSU), Cal (vs. WSU)
Looking at the Door: 2 - Colorado (vs. ZONA), Washington State (@ CAL)

Arizona's now beaten two ranked teams in B2B weeks, meaning someone in that state knows what it's like to win at home. This may be it for the Pac 12 and bowl-eligible teams; Colorado's come crashing back down to earth and need to somehow beat two of ZONA/@WSU/@UTAH to find the postseason for Coach Prime. The other three might eat each other alive, while ASU had no plans to win this season no matter what.


SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 7 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Florida (@ LSU), Texas A&M (vs. MST), Auburn (@ ARK)

Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 1 - Vanderbilt
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Arkansas (vs. AUB), South Carolina (vs. VAN)
Looking at the Door: 1 - Mississippi State (@ A&M)

Cayts shut down the cowbells and get their sixth win. Gata, on the other hand, fail all over themselves at home and now have to beat one of @LSU/@MIZZOU/FSU to get that sixth win, which means they won't. Aggie is looking at what the Raiders are having to pay to get rid of Josh McDaniels and wishing they had that little a bill coming due; the only good news for them is they have Abilene Christian on the schedule still to find a bowl. Auburn is in if/when they do the right thing and put the Hogs down for good.

Arky bought themsleves some time but it won't matter, SC won the dick waving contest and can have some fools gold with a win over Vandy, before they close against Kentucky and Clemson.


American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 4 - Tulane, SMU, Memphis, UTSA
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - East Carolina
Knocking on the Door: 5 - UAB (@ NAVY), Temple (@ USF), Charlotte (vs MEM), North Texas (@ SMU), Tulsa (@ TULANE)
Looking at the Door: 4 - Florida Atlantic, South Florida (vs. TEMPLE), Navy (vs. UAB), Rice (@ UTSA)

Tulane's now in the driver's seat for B2B appearances in the NY6 bowls, which they almost cocked up on the road at dead to rights East Carolina. Tulsa/@FSU/UTSA to end the season, along with probably a matchup vs. SMU in the AACCG. UTSA gets in and now we see who from the rest of the conference manages to climb out of the crab bucket and into the Bad Boy Mowers bowl, whichever bowl they're sponsoring this year.


C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 2 - Liberty, New Mexico State
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Western Kentucky (vs. NMST)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 5 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana Tech, UTEP)
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 1 - FIU (@ MTSU)

WKU has Sam Houston State sandwiched between NMSU and FIU, meaning they're gonna get in unless Big Red enacts it's terrible vengeance upon us all. Liberty has an outside shot at a NY6 bowl; 13-0 Liberty vs. a two-loss American/MWC champ is an interesting conversation and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Committee rank the Flames 25th to potentially set the stage there. Half the conference is done for, FIU is the last question mark.


Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: Notre Dame
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - UMass, UConn
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Army (@ holy cross)
Looking at the Door: 0

Army takes down Air Force and will most likely lead to a split Commander In Chief trophy, meaning it goes to Space Force. I didn't make the rules. In terms of a bowl, Holy Cross would be a second FCS win which wouldn't count, meaning I really should move them to out, but I'll be nice and let Coastal Carolina finish them off next week.

Three loss Notre Dame can kiss a NY6 bowl goodbye, and Marcus Freeman is on the hot seat next season.


MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 3 - Miami, Toledo, Ohio
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Bowling Green (@ KENT 11/8), Central Michigan (@ WMU 11/7)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 3 - Akron, Kent State, Ball State
Knocking on the Door: 2 - Western Michigan (vs. CMU 11/7), Buffalo (vs. OHIO 11/7)
Looking at the Door: 2 - Northern Illinois (vs BALL 11/7), Eastern Michigan (@ TOL 11/8)

Bowling Green should get in facing the Cardinals, same for the Chips and they can send WMU packing with a win as well. NIU has a very winnable final stretch of BALL/WMU/@KENT, EMU's last two are vs. Akron/Buffalo. 7 for the MAC is plausible.


MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 4 - Air Force, Fresno State, UNLV, Wyoming
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Hawai'i, Nevada
Knocking on the Door: 3 - New Mexico (@ BSU), San Diego State (@ CSU), Colorado State (vs SDSU)
Looking at the Door: 3 - San Jose State (vs. FRESNO), Utah State (vs NEV), Boise State (vs. UNM)

NY6 dream is mostly dead for Air Force for now; it's waiting to see if Tulane trips up and if the committee doesn't respect an undefeated C-USA champ over a 1/2 loss MWC champ. Wyoming beats the Rams to get in, while Hawai'i drowns Nevada to end the six game runback dream. Boise's in if they beat UNM/@USU next two weeks, or if they take down Air Force to end the year. SDSU/CSU is an eliminator, Utah State needs two of NEV/BOISE/@UNM.


Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 5 - Georgia State, Troy, Georgia Southern, Texas State, Coastal Carolina
Knocking on the Door: 3 - Louisiana (vs USM), App State (@ GAST), Arkansas State (@ USA)

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 3 - James Madison, Southern Miss, Louisiana-Monroe
Knocking on the Door: 0
Looking at the Door: 3 - Old Dominion (@ LIB), Marshall (vs. GSU), South Alabama (vs. ARKST)

5 in for the Fun Belt, ULL's got two good chances with Southern Miss/Louisiana-Monroe on the schedule, while App has a brutal closing stretch of @GAST/@JMU/GSU to close. Arky St has done a remarkable job of coming back from the dead and needs one of @USA/TXST/@MAR to find the postseason. Nobody's getting eliminated this weekend, though time's starting to run out on the last three.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Rose Bowl: #1 Michigan (Big Ten Champ) vs. #4 Oregon (Pac-12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl: #2 Florida State (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Texas (Big 12 Champ)

Not moving off this from this past weekend: I still think Michigan beats Ohio State and wins out and nothing the B1G/NCAA will affect them in any way. Texas is out of buffer room and I'm still not placing Georgia here, not until they beat both Ole Miss and win at Tennessee.

Also, as much as no one wants to talk about it, Bama's starting to look like a team that can put it all together......


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: Alabama vs. Oklahoma State
Peach Bowl: Georgia vs. Tulane
Orange Bowl: Louisville vs. Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Washington

Now comes the fun part of trying to figure out who's gonna lose to who coming down the stretch.
Louisville should get the ACC's spot in the Orange considering FSU is going to the Playoff and no one else in the ACC deserves it. I think 11-1 Ohio State drops to 5 and is in the catbird seat in case there's any upsets in the conference championship games, meaning they'd get the other Orange spot if/when that doesn't happen. I'm gonna be ballsy and say it's Ole Miss that beats Georgia next week to keep the Dawgs out of the Playoffs, though Georgia still beats Bama in the SECCG to keep the conference out of the Playoff. SEC Champs Georgia heads to the Sugar, 11-2 Bama to the Cotton, and 11-1 Ole Miss ends up in the Fiesta. Tulane gets the G5 spot and normally would be sentenced to the Fiesta, but they've already played/lost to the Rebs this year. B2B Cotton seems unlikely for a G5 team, so let's send them to the Peach and have them face the Dawgs. Washington stays out west and faces Ole Miss, and now it's the last spot vs. Bama in the Cotton. Oklahoma just dropped two in a row, Penn State has to face Michigan, Mizzou just took a second L, LSU and Notre Dame a third. Oregon State has Civil War and Tennessee has UGA to pick up second L's. So it's looking like a 10-2 Oklahoma, 10-2 Kansas, and 10-2 Oklahoma State, since none of those three should be losing again down the stretch. Sooners lost to both H2H so that elimates them, and with OSU beating KU H2H as well puts the Pokes in the Cotton to face Alabama.


And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                vs. Bowling Green
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Western Kentucky vs. Louisiana
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Georgia Southern vs. South florida
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. Wyoming
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Fresno State vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Houston vs. Washington State
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Florida Atlantic vs. 
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Texas State vs. 
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Eastern Michigan vs. Coastal Carolina
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Georgia State vs. 
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Arkansas State vs. 
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Toledo vs. Troy
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    UTSA vs. Liberty
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Ohio vs. UNLV
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Miami OH vs. 
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Iowa vs. Oregon State
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Air Force vs. 
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Central Michigan vs. Nebraska
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    Rice vs. 
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           BYU vs. Wisconsin
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Illinois vs. SMU
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Duke vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Utah vs. Georgia Tech
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Clemson vs. Maryland
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               Miami vs. Oklahoma
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Kansas vs. USC
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  North Carolina vs. LSU
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               NC State vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Rutgers vs. Florida
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Northern Illinois vs. Boise State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       Missouri vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Penn State vs. Tennessee
I'm stuck with eight spots left and no teams that I'm really committed to placing in there. Someones will fail their way uphill and if we need to dip into the 5-7 pool then James Madison and Jacksonville State do get to come out the play, but we'll cross that road when we get there. Once again I will project Duke vs. Kentucky into the Mayo, and once more you can't spell Citrus without U-T.

Like last week I'll do an updated version of this once the Committee releases their latest rankings, because I have nothing else to do on a Tuesday night.

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Nov 5, 2023

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Something to keep in mind: we're not going to have enough bowl-eligible teams. The selection process goes like this:

-The four Playoff teams.
-The eight New Years 6 bowl teams.
-All teams who are bowl eligible, i.e. 6 wins.
-James Madison and Jacksonville State, who are ineligible due to divisional transfer rules.
-5-7 teams by virtue of APR.

While I don't think we'll need more than 4-5, here's the top 10 teams currently sitting on 4 wins by APR:

-Northwestern
-Wake Forest
-Boise State
-Rice
-Mississippi State
-UCF
-Florida
-Eastern Michigan
-Northern Illinois
-USF

Now, some teams may play themselves in, such as NIU. And some aren't guaranteed to get that fifth win at all, Florida. But my last projection left us eight short once I added everyone who had five wins. If they all make it in and JMU/JAXST get taken care of, that leaves six spots, meaning #CLANGA and UCF would be our last teams in. At this point I don't believe they're obligated to fill any spots that their respective conferences had agreed to, but in the end ESPN puts teams where they want regardless so whatever.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
IF THE PLAYOFF STARTED TODAY, 11/7/23

PLAYOFF

#1 Ohio State (Big Ten Champs) vs. #4 Florida State (ACC Champs)
#2 Georgia (SEC Champs) vs. #3 Michigan (At-Large)


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: #7 Texas (Big 12 Champs) vs. #10 Penn State (At-Large)
Peach Bowl: #6 Oregon (At-Large) vs. #9 Ole Miss (At-Large)
Orange Bowl: #11 Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. #8 Alabama (SEC/B1G Rep)
Fiesta Bowl: #5 Washington (Pac-12 Champs) vs. #23 Tulane (Ground of 5 Rep)


Nothing changes in the Playoff Four, and for the most part nothing really changes in the NY6. We bid adieu to Oklahoma and welcome in Penn State, and as such I shift Ole Miss to the Peach for an SEC presence and send the Nittany Lions to Big D, keeping the Horns and Ducks the same. Orange stays the same but with Louisville almost looking like a respectable team (that'll change soon I'm sure) and the Fiesta staying the same. I'm a little surprised that the committee didn't give Liberty the 25 spot like the AP did, but I guess if Tulane does lose they can make that adjustment when it comes time.


And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Western Kentucky vs. Toledo
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Liberty vs. Troy
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    App State vs.  South Florida*
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        New Mexico State vs. UNLV
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Air Force vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            BYU vs. Jacksonville State*
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Coastal Carolina vs. Old Dominion*
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Northern Illinois* vs. Texas Tech*
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Bowling Green vs. UCF*
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Arkansas State vs.Wake Forest*
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Louisiana vs. Illinois*
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. Eastern Michigan*
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    Texas State vs. Rice*
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami Ohio vs. Fresno State
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Utah State* vs. Georgia Southern
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Maryland vs. Arizona
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Boise State* vs. UTSA
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Central Michigan vs. Northwestern*
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    West Virginia vs. James Madison* 
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Kansas State vs. Nebraska
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Clemson vs. SMU
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Duke vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Utah vs. Miami
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Oklahoma vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              NC State vs. Minnesota
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               Notre Dame vs. Kansas
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Oklahoma State vs. Oregon State
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  North Carolina vs. LSU
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Georgia Tech vs. USC
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs, Mississippi State
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Wisconsin vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Ohio vs. Wyoming
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       Missouri vs. Rutgers
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Tennessee
Somehow I had less teams in then I did this past weekend. I had to dip deep into the APR rankings to fill the field, and that's after skipping Florida because there's no way in hell they're getting a fifth win. There's some ok matchups; Sooner and Aggie in the Texas Bowl has spice potential, but Iowa/Tennessee in the Citrus might be unwatchable and potentially only topped by Iowa/Missouri in terms of potential atrociousness.

The good news is some of these 4-5 assholes will win this weekend and I can feel less bad about putting them into a potential postseason position. Probably.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

C. Everett Koop posted:

Something to keep in mind: we're not going to have enough bowl-eligible teams. The selection process goes like this:

-The four Playoff teams.
-The eight New Years 6 bowl teams.
-All teams who are bowl eligible, i.e. 6 wins.
-James Madison and Jacksonville State, who are ineligible due to divisional transfer rules.
-5-7 teams by virtue of APR.

While I don't think we'll need more than 4-5, here's the top 10 teams currently sitting on 4 wins by APR:

-Northwestern
-Wake Forest
-Boise State
-Rice
-Mississippi State
-UCF
-Florida
-Eastern Michigan
-Northern Illinois
-USF

Now, some teams may play themselves in, such as NIU. And some aren't guaranteed to get that fifth win at all, Florida. But my last projection left us eight short once I added everyone who had five wins. If they all make it in and JMU/JAXST get taken care of, that leaves six spots, meaning #CLANGA and UCF would be our last teams in. At this point I don't believe they're obligated to fill any spots that their respective conferences had agreed to, but in the end ESPN puts teams where they want regardless so whatever.

Does a 5-win team that made its respective conference championship game and lost get any kind of preference?

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
e: ^^^ Do you mean 6 win team, GD?

C. Everett Koop posted:

Something to keep in mind: we're not going to have enough bowl-eligible teams. The selection process goes like this:

-The four Playoff teams.
-The eight New Years 6 bowl teams.
-All teams who are bowl eligible, i.e. 6 wins.
-James Madison and Jacksonville State, who are ineligible due to divisional transfer rules.
-5-7 teams by virtue of APR.

While I don't think we'll need more than 4-5, here's the top 10 teams currently sitting on 4 wins by APR:

-Northwestern
-Wake Forest
-Boise State
-Rice
-Mississippi State
-UCF
-Florida
-Eastern Michigan
-Northern Illinois
-USF

Now, some teams may play themselves in, such as NIU. And some aren't guaranteed to get that fifth win at all, Florida. But my last projection left us eight short once I added everyone who had five wins. If they all make it in and JMU/JAXST get taken care of, that leaves six spots, meaning #CLANGA and UCF would be our last teams in. At this point I don't believe they're obligated to fill any spots that their respective conferences had agreed to, but in the end ESPN puts teams where they want regardless so whatever.

Texas Tech at 966 is a lot better than I expected. USF is 967, so Tech just needs a few schools to not get the 5th win to have a chance of being a bowl-eligible 5-7.

Easiest way, ofc, would be to beat UCF at home and upset one of Kansas or UT on the road.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

kayakyakr posted:

e: ^^^ Do you mean 6 win team, GD?

Texas Tech at 966 is a lot better than I expected. USF is 967, so Tech just needs a few schools to not get the 5th win to have a chance of being a bowl-eligible 5-7.

Easiest way, ofc, would be to beat UCF at home and upset one of Kansas or UT on the road.

No I actually mean if a 5 win team made it. If they’re 5-8 with a conference title game appearance do they have any edge over the APR teams.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

General Dog posted:

No I actually mean if a 5 win team made it. If they’re 5-8 with a conference title game appearance do they have any edge over the APR teams.

They'd have to be 5-3 or 5-4 in conference to have that record going into the game. Is there a scenario that would see that actually happen?

But just read the rulebook for this and there is no carveout for a 5-8 team. The order is:

1. Played an ineligible FCS team
2. Has a 6-7 record
3. Is transitioning from FCS to FBS (JMU and JAXST will be eligible based on this rule. JMU wants to be eligible for top tier bowl placement rather than bottom bowl)
4. Team is 5-7 ranked in order of APR.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

kayakyakr posted:

They'd have to be 5-3 or 5-4 in conference to have that record going into the game. Is there a scenario that would see that actually happen?

But just read the rulebook for this and there is no carveout for a 5-8 team. The order is:

1. Played an ineligible FCS team
2. Has a 6-7 record
3. Is transitioning from FCS to FBS (JMU and JAXST will be eligible based on this rule. JMU wants to be eligible for top tier bowl placement rather than bottom bowl)
4. Team is 5-7 ranked in order of APR.

I didn't have any specific case in mind. NMSU or WKU could plausibly get into the C-USA title game at 5-3 in-conference since Jax State is ineligible, but they're both sitting on a couple of nonconference wins as well.

There was that time in 2001 North Texas won the Sun Belt with a 5-7 overall record (5-1 in conference) and had to be granted a special waiver to play in their bowl game.

General Dog fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 8, 2023

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 11/12: Fine I'll Put Georgia In The Goddamn Playoffs

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 8 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, Duke, Boston College, NC State, Clemson
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Pitt, Virignia
The Netherrealm: Virginia Tech (5-5, vs. NCST), Georgia Tech (5-5, vs. CUSE), Syracuse (5-5, @GT), Wake Forest (4-6, @ND)

We've entered the period where teams are knocking on both doors of eligibility and disqualification, so I'm placing everyone who isn't already in and out in the Netherrealm for now, with full knowledge that we're going to be dipping deep into the 5-7 pool this year. Clemson finally gets in and we're stuck with four teams we don't know what to do with. Hokies might not get State this week, but they should beat UVA the following. Jackets and Orange is a win and in, which means a lot more for the Wreck since they ain't beatin' the Dawgs next week. Cuse, oddly enough, has Wake Forest to close the season which means a miracle win by the Deacs can turn the season finale into a win and in. It more than likely means two 5-7 teams for the ACC and seeing where they are in the APR pile.


B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 7 - Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia, Iowa State
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Cincinnati, Baylor
The Netherrealm: 5 - Texas Tech (5-5, vs. UCF), UCF (5-5, @ TTU), BYU (5-5, vs OU), TCU (4-6, vs BU), Houston (4-6, vs OSU)

Clones win the Win 'n' In vs. BYU, who will have to find one against the Oklahomas to guarantee eligibility. Tejas Tech and UCF is our next said matchup, and a Knights loss/Cougars upset over Okie Lite can mean a third such affair to close the season.


B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 6 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Rutgers, Maryland
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 3 - Purdue, Indiana, Michigan State
The NetherrealmThe Goddamn 5-5 Big Ten West: 5 - Minnesota (@ OSU), Wisconsin (vs. NEB), Nebraska (@ WIS), Northwestern (vs. PUR), Illinois (@ IOWA)

Okay, deep breaths, deep breaths, calm down. Let's focus on the positives first. Maryland, you won a 13-10 failbowl at Nebraska and got your sixth win and an almost guaranteed trip to either the Pinstripe or Fenway or Military Bowls and not somewhere warm, but a bowl is a bowl. Second, Hoosier and Sparty, you did your duties and looked up at the lights and are now at 3-7, although they have a SICKOS~! GOTW contender against each other next week and Indiana finishes at Purdue, so the Hooisers might come out of the APR pile (Sparty finishes with Penn State so no such potential there). So that takes care of the B1G East.

Okay, focus.

Much has been written about you, Big Ten West. About how you set football back centuries each time you take the field. About how none of you would have survived Brian Ferentz' contract. About how five! of you are 3-4 in confernce play, 5-5 overall, and some of you worthless cocksuckers are going to become bowl eligible because ties aren't a thing anymore even though I'm sure if anyone could find a way to tie a college football game in the year of our lord Kobe 2023 it would almost certainly be one of you motherless fucks. It would make sense that the division would be ruled by a team that has barely scored over 100 points in conference play, while literally everyone else has a negative +/- differential. A whole division of teams that views the offensive side of football like a preschooler with cooties. It is amazingly, astoundingly, a complete and total commitment to ineptitude. It's worth saluting and bronzing, because the divsion will cease to exist after this season and they'll have to face teams that don't view the end zone as a mirage in the Sahara. It is truly a work of art, in that it has to be used primarily for money laundering.

Anyway, Wisconsin and Nebraska face off so someone's reaching six wins whether they want to or not, Northwestern's matchup against Purdue looks good for them, things aren't so bright for Minny and Illy but there's always next week, when Illinois faces Northwestern and the Gophers face Badgers in other potential W'n'I's.

Let's talk about something, anything else.


P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 7 - USC, Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, Utah, UCLA, Arizona
Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 2 - Arizona State, Stanford
The Netherrealm: 3 - Cal (4-6, @ STAN), Colorado (4-6, @ WAZZU), Washington State (4-6, vs. COL)

Not much happening here other than Stanford being finished off by the Beavs. Meanwhile, Cal's got two winnable road games in The Game and at UCLA, who are lucky they've gotten their six because they've entered a death spiral. Speaking of which, Wazzu's started to fall apart and their game against Colorado is the last gasp for either to try and enter the APR pile (if Colorado even could), because Cougs ain't beating the Dawgs and Buffs ain't beatin' the Utes.


SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 9 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Auburn
Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 2 - Vanderbilt, Arkansas
The Netherrealm: 3 - Florida (5-5, @ MIZZOU), South Carolina (4-6, vs. UK), Mississippi State (4-6, vs. USM)

Aggies and Tigers get their sixth and give the SEC the eligibility lead, though double digits looks out of reach. Gators have to beat either Mizzou or FSU, which probably Ain't Happenin'. SC has to find wins against both Kentucky and Clemson and need one for the APR pile, while State has a very winnable game against Southern Miss and a high spot in the APR pile to find some mid-December bowl game.


American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 4 - Tulane, SMU, Memphis, UTSA
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 6 - East Carolina, Charlotte, UAB, North Texas, Tulsa, Temple
The Netherrealm: 4 - South Florida (5-5, @ UTSA), Navy (4-5, @ SMU), Florida Atlantic (4-6, vs. TULANE), Rice (4-6, @ CLT)

Say what you want, but the American knows how to finish the job. All five teams who were knocking on the door of ineligibility took the L this past weekend, a true commitment if I've ever seen one. As for the leftovers, if the Bulls can't get it done at UTSA the last week vs. Charlotte should do the trick. The Academy might have to wait until their annual flag-humping exhibition to get that sixth win. FAU needs a win against a suddenly vulnerable Tulane to potentially set up another Win'n'In against Rice, provided the Krispies come away from Charlotte win the W.


C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 2 - Liberty, New Mexico State
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 5 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana Tech, UTEP)
The Netherrealm: 2 - Western Kentucky (5-5, vs. SHSU), FIU (4-6, @ ARK)

Liberty, again, stands to be the one who profits the most if Tulane can't run the table, and I'll state against that I'm surprised that the Committee didn't rank the Flames at 25 just to start to set the stage for such an occurance. We'll see if that happens this Tuesday. Hilltoppers need a very winnable game against Sam Houston to be in, and if that doesn't happen it may set up a Win'n'In vs. FIU, who I would assume would be the favorites against Arkansas next week based on not being Arkansas. Jacksonville State's going to get a bowl game and it probably wouldn't be any worse than what they would have gotten normally, tbh.


Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: Notre Dame
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - UMass, UConn
Knocking on the Door: 1 - Army (4-6, vs. Coastal Carolina)
Looking at the Door: 0

Army barely gets past Holy Cross for their 2nd win over an FCS team this season. I'm not sure if they would be considered out of the 5-7 APR pile if they get there; I know if they win both games they would be in the JMU/JAXST tier of selection, but 5-7 and two of those wins being FCS might be a bridge too far. Or they can lose both games and be done with it.


MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 4 - Miami, Toledo, Ohio, Bowling Green
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 4 - Akron, Kent State, Ball State, Buffalo
The Netherrealm: 4 - Central Michigan (5-5, @ OHIO 11/15), Western Michigan (4-6, @ NIU 11/14), Northern Illinois (4-6, vs. WMU), Eastern Michigan (4-6, vs. AKRON)

Much like their bigger brother, the MAC West is also a big mash of averageness, though their division leader does like scoring points, the weirdos. CMU is 5-5 but has to win either at Ohio or vs. Toledo for six, which might be a bridge too far. Things don't look much better for Western, who have an eliminator against NIU before a matchup vs. Bowling Green. As for the Huskies, bad as things look if they don't win vs. WMU they go to Kent State, meaning that high spot in the APR pile might come in handy. As for EMU, games vs. Akron and at Buffalo gives them a halfway decent chance.


MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 4 - Air Force, Fresno State, UNLV, Wyoming
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 4 - Hawai'i, Nevada, New Mexico, San Diego State
The Netherrealm: 4 - San Jose State (5-5, vs. SDSU), Utah State (5-5, vs BOISE), Boise State (5-5, @ USU), Colorado State (4-6, vs NEV)

San Jose has a winnable game vs. San Diego for their sixth and a less winnable game at UNLV to finish. Boise and Utah State is, say it with me, a Win'n'In. Colorado State has to take down Nevada and Hawai'i, which also isn't out of expectations. Air Force, meanwhile, has taken themselves out of NY6 consideration. Cry on your giant swords, flyboys.


Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 6 - Georgia State, Troy, Georgia Southern, Texas State, Coastal Carolina, App State
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 3 - James Madison, Southern Miss, Louisiana-Monroe
The Netherrealm: 5 - Louisiana (5-5, @ Troy), Arkansas State (5-5, vs. TXST), South Alabama (5-5, vs. MAR), Old Dominion (4-6, @ GSU), Marshall (4-6, @ USA),

Appers pulled the upset over Georgia State to get their sixth. ULL didn't vs. Southern Miss, but still have ULM to end the year if they don't win at Troy. Arky St have Texas State or Marshall to beat and try to cement their status as the best team in the state, again. South Alabama faces Marshall and Texas State, while Marshall has to win both of those aforementioned contests. ODU has to beat both Georgia's, which seems unlikely.

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Nov 12, 2023

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.
im really loving these posts, holy smokes

my goondolences on UGA having to get added to the playoffs. you resisted as long as you could

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Rose Bowl: #1 Ohio State (Big Ten Champ) vs. #4 Oregon (Pac-12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl: #2 Georgia (SEC Champ) vs. #3 Florida State (ACC Champ)

At this point the entire top 8 all have a case. Given the Harbaugh suspension I'm going to put Ohio State over Michigan, pending Michigan's appeal. In short, if Harbaugh is there Michigan wins, if not Ohio State wins, and the loser is hoping for some chaos to make their appeal. Failing that, the Pac-12 would love Washington to win out and then job to the Ducks, which would have the Pac making their case for two in and hoping that a conference champ with a loss isn't on the outside looking in. As it stands, he who loses last loses the most, and with three undefeated conference champs the Ducks loss to Washington (and subsequent revenge win in the P12CG) outweighs Texas' loss to the Sooners, even if Texas ends up beating OU in a rematch. What I really, really want, is 13-0 B1G champ/13-0 FSU/13-0 Washington, and then 12-1 SEC Champ Alabama vs. 12-1 B12 Champ Texas. The absolute howls of protest from whoever comes out on the losing end. The tears would flood the bottom half of the country. It would be sheer, unmitigated salt from whoever gets left out and I, for one, demand it.


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: Texas vs. Missouri
Peach Bowl: Alabama vs. Penn State
Orange Bowl: Louisville vs. Michigan
Fiesta Bowl: Washington vs. Tulane

Michigan swaps in for Ohio State in the Orange vs. Louisville. Washington stays out west in the Fiesta and gets Tulane, if Tulane makes it. Texas to the Cotton and Alabama to the Peach makes sense and now it's a matter of finding their opponents. As much as no one wants to admit it, Missouri might be the third best team in the SEC after their win over Tennessee, and with Mizzou having very winnable games vs. Florida/@ Arkansas to close the season, 10-2 and a borderline top 10 ranking would send them to the Cotton vs. old and future conference mate Texas. As for the last spot vs. Bama in the Peach, it makes sense for them to also face Penn State, who's only losses are to Michigan and Ohio State and who can't wait for the B1G to drop divisions. Okie Lite and Kansas' upsets send them tumbling down and unless the Beavs can find an upset in Civil War, they'll be taking a third loss.

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Liberty vs. Toledo
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           New Mexico State vs. Troy
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    App State vs. UCF*
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        James Madison* vs. Fresno State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Air Force vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Texas Tech vs. San Jose State
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. Boise State*
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Eastern Michigan vs. Rice*
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    South Florida vs. Minnesota*
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Georgia Southern vs. Syracuse
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Colorado State vs. Mississippi State*
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Northern Illinois vs. Arkansas State
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    Western Kentucky vs. South Alabama
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami Ohio vs. UNLV
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Jacksonville State* vs. Coastal Carolina
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Maryland vs. USC
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Utah State vs. UTSA
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Bowling Green vs. Louisiana
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    Kansas vs. Texas State
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           West Virginia vs. Wisconsin
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Georgia Tech vs. SMU 
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Clemson vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Oregon State vs. Duke
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Virginia Tech
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Boston College vs. Northwestern
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               North Carolina vs. Oklahoma
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Oklahoma State vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  NC State vs. LSU
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Miami vs. Utah
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Cal
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Rutgers vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Ohio vs. Wyoming
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       Tennessee vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Ole Miss
To start, let's see who's at the top of the APR pile, and I'll take anyone with 4 or 5 wins:

-Northwestern (5-5)
-Wisconsin (5-5)
-Minnesota (5-5)
-Wake Forest (4-6)
-Boise State (5-5)
-Rice (4-6)
-Mississippi State (4-6)
-UCF (5-5)
-South Carolina (4-6)
-Cal (4-6)
-Georgia Tech (5-5)
-Florida (5-5)
-Eastern Michigan (4-6)
-Navy (4-5)
-Nebraska (5-5)

OF COURSE the loving Big Ten West is at the top of the APR pile. Of course they are, because while they're clearly capable of learning it's also clearly capable they aren't capable of knowing what to do with said knowledge. Clearly.

I've got seven spots left after everyone who I think is in. JMU and Jacksonville State go next, then five of who's left, in this case Minny/Boise/Rice/#CLANGA/UCF, with Florida on the outside looking in, which is what they deserve for losing to Arkansas. It's going to be curious if secondary spots allocated to the major conferences are held for those in the 5-7 APR pile or if they end up taking a P5 team. It'll probably be the former, but it'd be nice for it to be the latter and for someone like Minnesota to get stuck in a first week game, but nice things aren't possible.

As for the matchups themselves, Iowa/Ole Miss is a first time matchup worth the novelty and potential car crash appeal alone, and I guess Tennessee and Notre Dame could be fun if Jayden Daniels plays. Other than that, nothing really jumps off the page.

Per usual another one of these Tuesday as we have just two weeks left of the season :(

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


You still think PSU for a NY6? At this point, I'm worried it is too late in the season to make up for the rankings hit they'll take, but at the same time...I guess they're king of the 10-2 teams?

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Sash! posted:

You still think PSU for a NY6? At this point, I'm worried it is too late in the season to make up for the rankings hit they'll take, but at the same time...I guess they're king of the 10-2 teams?

Once you get past the top 8 teams, who have separated themselves from the pack, and then Louisville for the ACC spot/the G5 spot, that leaves two spots left. Oregon State has two losses but still has to face Oregon. Assuming that goes the way we would expect it to, that leaves four teams for two spots:

Missouri's two losses are to Georgia/LSU, best wins are surviving K-St/Kentucky/Tennessee. Remaining games are Florida/@Arkansas.
Penn State's two losses are to Michigan/Ohio State, but only ranked win is blanking Iowa. Remaining games are Rutgers/@Sparty.
Oklahoma's two are OSU/Kansas in back to back weeks, but they beat Texas for their only ranked win. Remaining games are @BYU/TCU.
Ole Miss was Bama/Georgia, they beat Tulane and LSU. Remaining games are UL-Monroe/@Miss St.

UNC and Iowa are also two loss teams but they have no one great left that they can beat, save Iowa in the B1GCG.

Nobody's losses were atrocious, though Kansas wasn't ranked at the time they beat OU. OU also is the only one who has a chance to play for the conference title. I'd say Oklahoma has the best win in beating Texas, but they followed that with the B2B losses. Nobody faces anyone great down the stretch, but Ole Miss facing a terrible ULM team isn't going to give them anything that can help and might only hurt. Penn State at least faces a team that's going bowling in Rutgers. I also don't think that both SEC teams would get the nod, but as down as I've been on the conference you can't leave both out. The AP has the order in the way I have it posted, which would give the nod to Mizzou/Penn St if it held.

So you can make a case for any of the those four right now and whoever stumbles won't keep pace. But assuming all four win out without anything standing out for better or worse, I think Mizzou/Penn State get the last two spots.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
IF THE PLAYOFF STARTED TODAY, 11/14/23

PLAYOFF

Sugar Bowl: #1 Georgia (SEC Champs) vs. #4 Michigan (At-Large)
Rose Bowl: #2 Ohio State (Big Ten Champs) vs. #3 Florida State (ACC Champs)


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: #7 Texas (Big 12 Champs) vs. #10 Oregon State (At-Large)
Peach Bowl: #6 Oregon (At-Large) vs. #9 Mizzouri (At-Large)
Orange Bowl: #10 Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. #8 Alabama (SEC/B1G Rep)
Fiesta Bowl: #5 Washington (Pac-12 Champs) vs. #24 Tulane (Ground of 5 Rep)


Top 4 exchange numbers but the matchups don't really change. Ole Miss tags out for Missouri and Penn State for Oregon State, which is the only real notable change in that it puts a third Pac-12 team into the NY6 and leaves the B1G out of the NY6 completely, though having two playoffs teams soothes that ailment. Tulane drops one spot but remains the only G5 team ranked, meaning there's still no Liberty #25 safety net and/or the committee hasn't shown it's hand what will happen if the Wave do wave bye-bye.

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                New Mexico State vs. Toledo
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           Liberty vs. Troy
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Georgia Southern vs. Florida*
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        Cal* vs. Fresno State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               Air Force vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Texas Tech vs. Minnesota*
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. Nebraska*
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Western Kentucky vs. Boise State*
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Northern Illinois vs. Navy*
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Syracuse vs. South Florida
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Jacksonville State* vs. Mississippi State*
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    App State vs. Eastern Michigan*
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    San Jose State vs. Rice* 
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami Ohio vs. UNLV
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Wake Forest* vs. Coastal Carolina
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Iowa vs. USC
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Utah State vs. UTSA
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Bowling Green vs. Northwestern
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    West Virginia vs. Texas State 
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Iowa State vs. Wisconsin
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Georgia Tech vs.SMU   
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  Clemson vs. Kentucky
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Utah vs. Miami
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  Memphis vs. Virginia Tech
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Boston College vs. Rutgers
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               North Carolina vs. Kansas State
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Oklahoma vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  NC State vs. Tennessee
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Duke vs.  James Madison*
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas vs. UCF
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Maryland vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Ohio vs. Wyoming
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       LSU vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Penn State vs. Ole Miss
We are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep in the APR pile, taking the last spot that I researched with Nebraska. I can't wait for some of these teams to play themselves in/off the APR bubble this week and we get a clearer picture. As for matchups, LSU/Notre Dame for name value, Penn State/Ole Miss is a first time matchup, Liberty/Troy in the Super Dome could be spicy, Memphis/Hokie at Fenway, Okie Lite and A&M in the little brother bowl, Iowa vs. USC is worthwhile to see if USC can score on the Iowa D, and if Iowa's O can score on USC's D in the exact same way.

Another go-round this Sunday before the last week of the season :(.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true
My favorite thing is that there are still 8 teams that can be tied for 1st in the Big XII, including Texas Tech.

If all home teams win next weekend, the final weekend has some wild scenarios that can play out.

The wildest is that if all home teams win next week and all road teams win the week after, the Big XII Championship game is going to be ISU vs TTU.

There are a few other crazy tie-breaker scenarios, and there are a few games that do not matter, but it's funnier to have a blanket statement like that.



e: this was a bit wrong. WVU has to break the symmetry, otherwise it's ISU and KU for the championship. Almost... better, actually.

kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 15, 2023

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Week of 11/19: That'll Teach You To Host Gameday

ACC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 9 - Louisville, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, Duke, Boston College, NC State, Clemson, Georgia Tech
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Pitt, Virignia
The Netherrealm: 3 - Virginia Tech (5-6, @ UVA), Syracuse (5-6, vs WF), Wake Forest (4-7, @CUSE)

Jackets get the job done in the Win'n'In vs. Cuse and become the ACC'd 9th and potentially final team. Hokie had a chance vs. NC State and now travel to what will certainly be an emotional contest vs. Virginia considering the circumstances of having to cancel last year's contest, along with the Hoos not being a complete doormat as of late. Cuse and Wake is a kinda Win'n'in; Cuse is fully in with a victory while Wake would make it to 5-7 and a prime spot in the APR Pile (c). As for the top of the conference, we'll talk about that in a bit here.


B12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 8 - Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia, Iowa State, Texas Tech
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Cincinnati, Baylor
The Netherrealm: 4 - UCF (5-6, vs UH), BYU (5-6, @ OSU), TCU (5-6, @ OU), Houston (4-7, @ UCF)

Tejas Tech over UCF in the W'n'I, who still has a reasonable shot at the postseason facing Houston at home. BYU and TCu need to take down an Oklahoman to reach the postseason given neither are high up in the APR Pile. Houston is kinda in the same pile but it looks more dire for them, plus it seems like the money has soured on Holgo The Magnificent.


B1G

Bowl Eligible Teams: 8 - Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 2 - Purdue, Indiana
The NetherrealmThe Goddamn Big Ten West (and friend): 4 - Minnesota (5-6, vs. UW), Nebraska (5-6, vs. IOWA), Illinois (5-6, vs. NW), Michigan State (4-7, vs. PSU)

I resolved to be less mad about the Big Ten West this week, mostly on the basis that some of those useless little shits had to fail their way out of the crab bucket and into the Quick Lane Bowl. 8 are formally in, Minny is effecitvely safe given that they're at the very top of the APR Pile but can still beat Wiscy to make it on merit. The same can't be said for Nebraska and Illinois, they face winnable games but Northwestern is a little more beatable than the Iowa offensive black hole. As for APR, Nebraska was at the bottom of all the teams I researched last week and Illinois wasn't on the list, so the Fightin' berts either need to win or they're done.

Also I need to bring Sparty slightly back from the dead, at 4-7 they're technically eligible if they beat Penn State and I find them high enough on the APR Pile since I didn't look for them last week, but that seems unlikely at best. Still, I guess false hope is better than no hope at all.


P12

Bowl Eligible Teams: 7 - USC, Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, Utah, UCLA, Arizona
Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 2 - Arizona State, Stanford
The Netherrealm: 3 - Cal (5-6, @ UCLA), Washington State (5-6, @ UW), Colorado (4-7, @ UTAH)

Cal does win the game and now has to win at UCLA, who found that the best way to get out of their death spiral was to face USC's D, and I hope everyone enjoyed watching Caleb Williams play football given he's off to the pros; that "I'm staying in school" poo poo no one bought for a second. Wazzu crushed the Primes Friday night but it's probably too little too late, and I don't see how Colorado isn't at the very bottom of the APR Pile given that Deion kicked the whole team off, but we'll put them there because, and also to remark at just how far they fell from mid-September.


SEC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 9 - Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Auburn
Bowl Ineliigble Teams: 2 - Vanderbilt, Arkansas
The Netherrealm: 3 - Florida (5-6, vs FSU), South Carolina (5-6, vs. CLEM), Mississippi State (5-6, vs. MISS)

Gata almost got Mizzou and their 6th, but decided to not defend the last minute of the game and thus they're where they belong. FSU is walking wounded, though, again more on that later. Gamecock pulls out the upset of Kentucky and have a shot at the postseason regardless of another Clampson upset. #CLANGA is in the same boat, but weird poo poo happens in the Egg Bowl so I wouldn't call them beating Ole Miss an upset.

Also, Auburn. What the gently caress was that.


American

Bowl Eligible Teams: 4 - Tulane, SMU, Memphis, UTSA
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 6 - East Carolina, Charlotte, UAB, North Texas, Tulsa, Temple
The Netherrealm: 4 - South Florida (5-6, vs. CHA), Rice (5-6, vs. FAU), Navy (5-5, @ SMU), Florida Atlantic (4-7, @ RICE)

Still sitting on 4 eligible out of 14, which is loving shameful no matter how you look at it. The good news is that USF should take down Charlotte next week and get in. Rice also has a winnable game vs. FAU as well as a solid spot on top of the APR Pile. Navy's interesting; they can get six with a win at SMU next week, which is unlikley, but we'll talk about the other scenario in the Independents otherwise I'll have nothing to talk about there. FAU as to beat the Krispies to have a prayer and it may not be much of one.


C-USA

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 3 - Liberty, New Mexico State, Western Kentucky
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 5 (Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP)
The Netherrealm: 2 - FIU (4-7, vs. WKU), Middle Tennessee (4-7, @ SHSU)

Remember what I said last week about Liberty? It stands this week as well, though New Mexico State isn't gonna be a pushover in the C-USA title game. Western Kentucky finally takes care of business and can finish off FIU, who were upset by Arkansas. And if I'm going to take Sparty off the dead pile for being 4-7 I might as well do the same for MTSU, who have a winnable game to get to 5-7 but probably not the APR rate to do anything with it.


Independents

Bowl Eligble Teams: Notre Dame
Knocking on the Door: 0

Bowl Ineligible Teams: 1 - UMass, UConn
The Netherrealm: 1 - Army (5-6, vs. NAVY)

Army upsets Beach Chicken and more than likely sets up a Win'n'In with the Middies in three weeks. The Knights, however, aren't fully eligible with a win due to two of their wins being over FCS teams, but they would go before JMU/Jacksonville State. Navy's fully in if they win one of their last two and have a slight prayer at 5-7 off the APR Pile. So interesting times in the ultimate flag-humping game!


MAC

Bowl Eliigble Teams: 4 - Miami, Toledo, Ohio, Bowling Green
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 4 - Akron, Kent State, Ball State, Buffalo
The Netherrealm: 4 - Central Michigan (5-6, vs TOLEDO), Northern Illinois (5-6, @ KENT), Eastern Michigan (5-6, @ BUF), Western Michigan (4-7 vs BGSU)

MAC continues to be perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Going 6-6 might be in the cards for the conference as well; NIU has a very winnable game at Kent State, EMU a winnable game at Buffalo, CMU a less winnable game vs Toledo, and WMU would need to beat Bowling Green and find a spot on the APR Pile. Fun times for the directional mitten schools.


MWC

Bowl Eligible Teams: 6 - Air Force, Fresno State, UNLV, Wyoming, Boise State, San Jose State
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 4 - Hawai'i, Nevada, New Mexico, San Diego State
The Netherrealm: 2 - Utah State (5-6, @ UNM), Colorado State (5-6, @ UH)

First, how about the Rebs taking down the Flyboys to take over the top of the MWC and be a win away from double-figures! I remember a few years ago when people were openly discussing either dropping down to FCS or dumping the program outright. 10/11-2 still won't get them into the G5 spot unless Tulane/Liberty/probably also SMU take L's. As for the other teams, Boise gets the W'n'I over USU, who have a winnable game at New Mexico to get six, while Colorado State needs to win at the Big Island to become eligible.

San Jose State leads San Diego State as I write this because I don't want to be up until 4am again and I'm assuming they win and are in, because if the Spartans blow this one they ain't beating UNLV next week. New Mexico is also leading Fresno State, which I don't expect to hold and all that does is get the Lobos to 4-7, meaning they have to beat USU and find a spot on the APR Pile, which might be a bridge too far.


Sun Belt

Bowl Eligible Teams: 8 - Georgia State, Troy, Georgia Southern, Texas State, Coastal Carolina, App State, Arkansas State
Bowl Ineligible Teams: 3 - James Madison, Southern Miss, Louisiana-Monroe
The Netherrealm: 3 - Louisiana (5-6, vs ULM), Old Dominion (5-6, vs GAST), Marshall (5-6, vs. ARKST),

Well, so much for everything coming up JMU, not the first time that App State has ended a team's national championship aspirations. Arky State rebounds from a terrible start to the season to make a bowl and clinch top team in their state status. South Alabama also wins to give the Fun Belt eight in for sure, with the potential of three more. In order of likelyness, ULL should win the Battle on the Bayou vs. ULM, ODU upset Georgia Southern and now has to kinda somewhat upset Georgia State, and Marshall needs to beat the aforementioned Red Wolves. Add in JMU and it could be 12 bowling teams from the Sun Belt, which is something they wouldn't have ever dreamed of in years past.

Ghosts!
Jan 6, 2004
Just want to say I appreciate these posts and enjoy reading through them,

Roasted Donut
Aug 24, 2007

NWA WHITE POWERRR!!!!

Ghosts! posted:

Just want to say I appreciate these posts and enjoy reading through them,

This. real good work all year long

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Playoff

Sugar Bowl: #1 Georgia (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Texas (Big 12 Champ)
Rose Bowl: #2 Ohio State (Big Ten Champ) vs. #3 Oregon (Pac-12 Champ)

First, Harbaugh accepting the three-game suspension only cements my belief that Ohio State beats Michigan next week. I can't wait to watch the game in general, that game's gonna have some goddamn stank on it.

Ok.

It's time to talk about Florida State.

The loss of Jordan Travis is an enormous blow, not just in the Noles chances of beating Louisville in the ACCCG, but in convincing the committee that they're still one of the top four teams in the nation when we have such a top-heavy group of teams. If the Noles crush the Gators and easily handle the Cards with a backup QB than I'll eat my words, but either FSU is going to take an L it can't afford in the next two games or the committee is going to find a reason to keep them out, which is a shame. For my worth, I think Louisville beats them, which leads to the following:

NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: Florida State vs. Missouri
Peach Bowl: Alabama vs. Penn State
Orange Bowl: Louisville vs. Michigan
Fiesta Bowl: Washington vs. Tulane

Louisville goes from ACC rep to ACC champ, but it's not enough to get them past the top four teams and they might cap out at like 7th depending on Washington/Michigan. Fiesta feels like it'll be whoever falters between Washington and Oregon (unless Arizona somehow ends up winning the P12 at which point loving lol) vs. Tulane/G5 rep. After that, Bama feels a lock for the Peach and Mizzou a lock for the Cotton, who they face is honestly up for grabs between the Noles and Penn State. I went back and forth a few times and reserve the right to change my mind some more.


And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Liberty vs. Toledo
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           New Mexico State vs. Troy
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Arkansas State vs. James Madison*
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        Rice vs. Boise State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               UNLV vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Texas Tech vs. South Florida
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. Colorado State
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Georgia Southern vs. Utah State
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Northern Illinois vs. South Alabama
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Syracuse vs. UCF
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Memphis vs. Kansas
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Eastern Michigan vs. App State
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    Wyoming vs. Navy
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami Ohio vs. San Jose State
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Western Kentucky vs. Coastal Carolina 
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Rutgers vs. USC
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Air Force vs. Jacksonville State*
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Bowling Green vs. Minnesota*
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    West Virginia vs. Texas State
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Texas Tech vs. Northwestern
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Miami vs. SMU
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  North Carolina vs. Tennessee
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Oregon State vs. Duke
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Kentucky
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  UTSA vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Clemson vs. Maryland
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               NC State vs. Oklahoma
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Oklahoma State vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Georgia Tech vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Virginia Tech vs. Utah
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Mississippi State*
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Wisconsin vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Ohio vs. Fresno State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       LSU vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Ole Miss
First, let's, you and I, update the APR Pile and see who's the runts of the litter begging to be picked:

-Minnesota (5-6)
-Wake Forest (4-7)
-Rice (5-6)
-Mississippi State (5-6)
-UCF (5-6)
-South Carolina (5-6)
-Michigan State (4-7)
-Cal (5-6)
-Florida (5-6)
-Nebraska (5-5)

I found myself being very optimistic over some of our borderline teams getting in, and after JMU/Jacksonville State I end up only needing two teams out of the APR Pile. Assuming that Wake loses to Syracuse and Rice gets in by beating FAU, that leaves Minnesota and Mississippi State being the lucky dogs and making it to the postseason, and what do you know, they just so happen to end up in bowls that have conference affiliations!!!! who could have thunk it

There's some spicy matchups, Iowa/Ole Miss, LSU/Notre Dame, UNLV/UCLA has potential, Liberty/Toledo might be a better game than the Bahamas Bowl in creepy old groper stadium deserves.

Going into the final week, I'll do one after the committee blesses us with wisdom on high Tuesday, after the games Friday, and then one last one after Saturday. Eight days left lads :(

edit yes i did forget about conference championships it is late and i am tired and i've have far too long a week

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Nov 19, 2023

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

I do not want Bama.

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

I think Penn State's defense is good enough to keep them in any game. With that said, Penn State's offense is such a dumpster fire at this point that I think Bama would run away with it in the second half after nonstop 3 and outs by the offense. I'd much rather Penn State play a team without a good defense.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Komet posted:

I think Penn State's defense is good enough to keep them in any game. With that said, Penn State's offense is such a dumpster fire at this point that I think Bama would run away with it in the second half after nonstop 3 and outs by the offense. I'd much rather Penn State play a team without a good defense.

Lose to Sparty this weekend (and go back in time and lose a couple more) and we'll see what we can do about getting you to face USC.

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

C. Everett Koop posted:

Lose to Sparty this weekend (and go back in time and lose a couple more) and we'll see what we can do about getting you to face USC.

Hell yeah, it would be great seeing USC make Drew Allar look like a Heisman candidate

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
IF THE PLAYOFF STARTED TODAY, 11/21/23

PLAYOFF

Sugar Bowl: #1 Georgia (SEC Champs) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champs)
Rose Bowl: #2 Ohio State (Big Ten Champs) vs. #3 Michigan (At-Large)


NY6 Bowls

Cotton Bowl: #7 Texas (Big 12 Champs) vs. #11 Penn State (At-Large)
Peach Bowl: #9 Missouri (At-Large) vs. #10 Louisville (At-Large)
Orange Bowl: #5 Florida State (ACC Champ) vs. #8 Alabama (SEC/B1G Rep)
Fiesta Bowl: #6 Oregon (At-Large) vs. #23 Tulane (Ground of 5 Rep)

The big change is Washington jumping FSU into the Playoff. We know one of Ohio State/Michigan are guaranteed to drop following this weekend, but after spending all the other weeks on the outside looking in, the committee has shown that they value the overall strength of the Pac-12/they are concerned by the leg injury to FSU QB Jordan Travis that they're willing to leave the Noles on the outside looking in. Again, if FSU manages to beat the Gators/Cardinals the next two weeks they'll be all but guaranteed to get in, which would leave a one-loss Texas on the outside looking in with four undefeated conference champs.

That shakes up the bowls as well, with ACC Champ FSU projected to the Orange for the first time, facing the highest ranked B1G/SEC rep in #8 Alabama. Louisville slides over to the Peach to face Missouri. B12 champs Texas to the Cotton to face the last team in Penn State, while at-large Oregon is in the Fiesta against the G5 rep in Tulane, and the committee has finally installed the #25 Liberty safety net, something I've been calling for a while now. Tulane's gotta get past FAU/SMU while Liberty has a date against a fiesty New Mexico State to run the table. If both lose I'm not sure where the G5 spot goes; I would assume SMU as the 'Murica champ but all bets are off at this point.

And the rest:

pre:
Date	Time (EST)	Game	                           Site			                                        Affiliations                 Projection
Dec. 16	11:00 a.m.	Bahamas Bowl	                   Jerry Richardson Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina	        C-USA vs. MAC                Liberty vs. Toledo
Dec. 16	2:15 p.m.	New Orleans Bowl	           Caesars Superdome New Orleans, Louisiana	                C-USA vs. Sun Belt           New Mexico State vs. Troy
Dec. 16	3:30 p.m.	Cure Bowl	                   Exploria Stadium Orlando, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Arkansas State vs. James Madison*
Dec. 16	5:45 p.m.	New Mexico Bowl	                   University Stadium Albuquerque, New Mexico		        Group of Five vs. MWC        Rice vs. Boise State
Dec. 16	7:30 p.m.	LA Bowl	                           SoFi Stadium Inglewood, California			        MWC vs. Pac-12               UNLV vs. UCLA
Dec. 16	9:15 p.m.	Independence Bowl	           Independence Stadium Shreveport, Louisiana			Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Texas Tech vs. South Florida
Dec. 18	2:30 p.m.	Myrtle Beach Bowl	           Brooks Stadium Conway, South Carolina	                Group of Five conferences    Georgia State vs. Colorado State
Dec. 19	9:00 p.m.	Frisco Bowl	                   Toyota Stadium Frisco, Texas		                        Group of Five conferences    Georgia Southern vs. Utah State
Dec. 21	8:00 p.m.	Boca Raton Bowl	                   FAU Stadium Boca Raton, Florida			        Group of Five conferences    Northern Illinois vs. South Alabama
Dec. 22	6:30 p.m.	Gasparilla Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida		                Group of Five vs. SEC        Syracuse vs. UCF
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Birmingham Bowl	                   Protective Stadium Birmingham, Alabama			Group of Five vs. SEC        Memphis vs. Kansas
Dec. 23	12:00 p.m.	Camellia Bowl	                   Cramton Bowl Montgomery, Alabama	                        Group of Five conferences    Eastern Michigan vs. App State
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Armed Forces Bowl	           Amon G. Carter Stadium Fort Worth, Texas	                Group of Five conferences    Wyoming vs. Navy
Dec. 23	3:30 p.m.	Famous Idaho Potato Bowl           Albertsons Stadium Boise, Idaho	                        MAC vs. MWC                  Miami Ohio vs. San Jose State
Dec. 23	7:00 p.m.	68 Ventures Bowl	           Hancock Whitney Stadium Mobile, Alabama                      Group of Five vs. Sun Belt   Western Kentucky vs. Coastal Carolina 
Dec. 23	7:30 p.m.	Las Vegas Bowl	                   Allegiant Stadium Paradise, Nevada		                Big Ten vs. Pac-12           Rutgers vs. USC
Dec. 23	10:30 p.m.	Hawaii Bowl	                   Clarence T. C. Ching Athletics Complex Honolulu, Hawaii	MWC vs. AAC or C-USA         Air Force vs. Jacksonville State*
Dec. 26	2:00 p.m.	Quick Lane Bowl	                   Ford Field Detroit, Michigan			                MAC vs. Big Ten              Bowling Green vs. Minnesota*
Dec. 26	5:30 p.m.	First Responder Bowl	           Gerald J. Ford Stadium University Park, Texas                Group of Five conferences    West Virginia vs. Texas State
Dec. 26	9:00 p.m.	Guaranteed Rate Bowl	           Chase Field Phoenix, Arizona			                Big 12 vs. Big Ten           Texas Tech vs. Northwestern
Dec. 27	2:00 p.m.	Military Bowl                      Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Annapolis, Maryland	ACC vs. AAC                  Miami vs. SMU
Dec. 27	5:30 p.m.	Duke's Mayo Bowl	           Bank of America Stadium Charlotte, North Carolina		ACC vs. SEC                  North Carolina vs. Tennessee
Dec. 27	8:00 p.m.	Holiday Bowl	                   Petco Park San Diego, California			        Pac-12 vs. ACC               Oregon State vs. Duke
Dec. 27	9:00 p.m.	Texas Bowl	                   NRG Stadium Houston, Texas			                Big 12 vs. SEC               Kansas State vs. Kentucky
Dec. 28	11:00 a.m.	Fenway Bowl	                   Fenway Park Boston, Massachusetts		                AAC vs. ACC                  UTSA vs. Boston College
Dec. 28	2:15 p.m.	Pinstripe Bowl	                   Yankee Stadium The Bronx, New York		                ACC vs. Big Ten              Clemson vs. Maryland
Dec. 28	5:45 p.m.	Pop-Tarts Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida		        ACC vs. Big 12               NC State vs. Oklahoma
Dec. 28	9:15 p.m.	Alamo Bowl	                   Alamodome San Antonio, Texas			                Big 12 vs. Pac-12            Oklahoma State vs. Arizona
Dec. 29	12:00 p.m.	Gator Bowl	                   TIAA Bank Field Jacksonville, Florida		        ACC vs. SEC                  Georgia Tech vs. Texas A&M
Dec. 29	2:00 p.m.	Sun Bowl	                   Sun Bowl El Paso, Texas			                ACC vs. Pac-12               Virginia Tech vs. Utah
Dec. 29	3:30 p.m.	Liberty Bowl	                   Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium Memphis, Tennessee		Big 12 vs. SEC               Iowa State vs. Mississippi State*
Dec. 30	2:00 p.m.	Music City Bowl	                   Nissan Stadium Nashville, Tennessee			        Big Ten vs. SEC              Wisconsin vs. Auburn
Dec. 30	4:30 p.m.	Arizona Bowl	                   Arizona Stadium Tucson, Arizona			        MAC vs. MWC                  Ohio vs. Fresno State
Jan. 1	12:00 p.m.	ReliaQuest Bowl	                   Raymond James Stadium Tampa, Florida			        SEC vs. Big Ten or ACC       LSU vs. Notre Dame
Jan. 1	1:00 p.m.	Citrus Bowl	                   Camping World Stadium Orlando, Florida                       Big Ten vs. SEC              Iowa vs. Ole Miss
Given that the teams up top didn't change as much as change positions, I'm just repeating my selections from this past weekend. Again, I'm being optimistic in some of the 5-6 teams getting that key sixth win, and once JMU/Jacksonville State are sated we won't need but the top of the APR Pile.

Another one of these after the games Friday and then Saturday, once we recover from the fallout from Michigan/Ohio State.

Also thank you all for the far too kind nice words for me throwing darts blindfolded. May your team go somewhere warm and not to Shreveport.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

That Peach Bowl game would be a fun one.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
Arizona v Oklahoma State would be a fun preview of our future.

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Crescent Wrench
Sep 30, 2005

The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
Grimey Drawer

Komet posted:

Hell yeah, it would be great seeing USC make Drew Allar look like a Heisman candidate

This would be the absolutely stupidest way for PSU to get the USC monkey off their back. So stupid it almost has to happen.

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