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Grip it and rip it posted:But maybe... this time...? I mean, it worked out pretty well for us in WW2, all the times after that we didnt do the WC thing and we lost.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:You didn't do war crimes in Viet Nam? Who taught you english, Josef Stalin? Personally? No I wasnt born until 87. To more pointedly answer your question. The general notion of "war crimes" has been applied as early as 1474 in the holy roman empire. Today's notion stems from the 1949 geneva convention common article 3. But even then its a treaty, and treaties are only applicable between signatories. Under IHL, anyone who is not a combatant is considered a civilian.138 Reserve or off-duty soldiers are considered civilians unless they take part directly in hostilities, or become subject to military command. Civilians lose their civilian protection if they directly participate in armed hostilities, but only during the period of that participation; they regain civilian status once they are no longer directly engaged in hostilities. 138 Under article 50(1) of Protocol I a civilian is defined as someone who is not a member of any organized armed forces of a party to a conflict. The same article adds that "[i]n cases of doubt whether a person is a civilian, that person shall be considered to be a civilian." Under article 51(3), civilians that directly participate in hostilities lose civilian protection for the duration of such participation. Seems like trying to pick up the clean end of a turd.
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bulletsponge13 posted:If you want to be technical, the idea of war crimes started with organized warfare. They weren't formalized, but they existed. The idea of civilians in warfare is relatively recent; in conflict throughout history, the civilian populace was part of the conflict- and pay- of the armies. Yeah I'm pretty sure the strike group didnt just enter the med to distribute flowers.
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This is going to be total war. I don't see either side stopping until the other is gone.
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That Works posted:Without regard for collateral damage Well that's what happens when they use human shields...
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Quackles posted:So I have to ask. Where does that put the US in this? Honestly? I don't know. Right now I think we are floating off the coast as a deterrent to any other Muslim nation who'd otherwise get involved. Hamas has already called for "An international day of Jihad" for this Friday. This is 100% a religious war. Hamas seeks the complete destruction of the Israeli people. At this level of warfare morality and notions of war crimes go right out the window for the parties involved. Best scenario is to just let them fight it out. Iran and Saudi are holding talks, which is basically unprecedented. This also sets dangerous precedence if we do nothing for an ally under siege. This could give China the signal to attack Taiwan if they think we will do nothing. Best case, they fight it out amongst themselves and eventually one nation as a whole surrenders. Worst case? Mid east, China, and Russia team up for WW3. If anything the post WW2 conflicts have shown us that the only way to win is to either outlast the offense's resolve and beat them politically as their civilian population gets bored with the conflict or commit so much excessive violence the civilian populous of the defender demands the military stop. When its just the military taking the hits and no impact to civilians there's no reason for either side to stop. You get the same meat grinder never ending in that scenario. Once you understand the doctrine of Taqyyia you stop even humoring Islamic media for accurate reports. Arione fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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drat, these lego kits get more realistic every year. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Hey yo duder this is some pretty racist "can't trust those wily Muslims cause their religion orders them to lie and deceive infidels" poo poo. Lots of media in the Arabic world is lovely, but so is lots of media coming out of Israel and Europe and Russia and India and the US and every-goddamn-where else on the planet. You do understand the difference between race and religion right? Not all Arabs are muslims and not all muslims are arabs. How Taqiyya Alters Islam's Rules of War Defeating Jihadist Terrorism https://www.iwp.edu/ibrahim-how-taqiyya-alters-islams-rules-of-war/ (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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