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[IDF Headquarters, October 2023] Halevi: [chanting] crimes, crimes- Other officials: crimes, CRIMES Netanyahu: [pounding his clipboard] CRIMES, CRIMES, CRIMES!
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2023 17:34 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 22:33 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:Reminder to be very skeptical of anything sourced from social media right now. There's a lot of fake news spread by people looking to dial the bloodlust up to 11 that is being taken up by news agencies without due vetting. I think this is the first really big news event since the muskian enshittification of twitter and holy gently caress is it completely, utterly unreliable. I thought I could fish through the enshittification with the sources I follow, but it's just not really possible. Granted, this whole deal has completely overturned a lot of experts' priors about the region, so the true experts are shutting up and trying to find out as much as we are. At this point, if it's not an on-ground video with a reporter talking, it's probably not worth much, but that's risking seeing snuff footage and imma pass on that.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2023 18:45 |
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I can't really demonstrate just how hosed up the information environment is right now: https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1712142609043316809?t=7ikQ9af4EV9V41sHx1bMKw&s=19 https://twitter.com/Harbpeace/status/1712141574426026312?t=Dm1Bo1ChLXedsHr5yA_9XQ&s=19
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2023 17:29 |
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Soylent Pudding posted:CNN reporting that US intelligence officials claim Iran was surprised to learn of Hamas's attack. Some of this is reminding me of the early hours of 9/11 where random terrorist groups would claim responsibility, then realize the extent of the attack and go "lol nm" a little while later as it would've been clear that American retaliation was coming. That whole region and the relevant terrorist/insurgent groups are kinda figuring out in real time just how froggy they want to get. Also why Biden/Brits/et al are very vocally going NOT NOW HEZBOLLAH
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2023 19:17 |
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Are paragliders technicals? imo only if there is a second non-pilot person on the gun and the gun is mounted to the glider in some way
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2023 23:26 |
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At a minimum, at least everyone isn't just taking the IDF's claims, or even America's claims, as the gospel truth without proof anymore. Possibly overcorrecting into giving too much credibility to organizations that are just Hamas but disguised behind an agency name, but beats the alternative.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2023 14:32 |
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I think this would kind of explain a lot of why this clusterfucked so much: https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1714641493338542155?t=mVWILK9te3UypSyDoZZUAw&s=19 IDF: wasn't us (could be true!) Hamas: wasn't us (could also be true!) As a reporter stated, Hamas doesn't have all of the hostages in Gaza right now. Hamas isn't the only terrorist group active in/around Gaza. So Hamas and the IDF both said it wasn't them, Hamas inflates the numbers because they think IDF did it, the Arab world gets pissed and cancels meetings with Biden, and it turns out it was an Islamic Jihad rocket instead. Edit: good article on the whole deal, basically leading to the same result as most others - inconclusive, with the lack of a big crater being very fishy https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Oct 18, 2023 |
# ¿ Oct 18, 2023 15:14 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 22:33 |
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Iranian response on the way: https://twitter.com/AAhronheim/status/1779234516856672615?t=6ec8A40LPotWsRaDqWNeLQ&s=19 https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1779241269413261535?t=b1H7tfqXX3krCMwAb66LOQ&s=19
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2024 21:14 |