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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
nepotism's the best way to get jobs for sure but i gotta say my most recent experience required me to be willing to leave a city or even being close to a city, but still urbanized enough to have basically whatever you need. huge pay bump and they really appreciated someone who had citified professional experience. best career move ive made in my life. the trade off was moving. the real downside is rural healthcare is bad because of a lack of actual physicians, not to mention specialists

anyway all that's to say consider relocating, if you dont have kids to gently caress up you might find you like the different pace to life, like i did

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

I wish I still worked at a magazine

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022


got me 50 ounces out a bird in this bitch
your hired

120723
Dec 7, 2023
Job: climbing brownie mountain for $32 an hour

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

Dear CSAM, I never thought it could happen to me. In my companies entire product line of about 1,000 people Id say half of us were hired on remote. Hundreds of miles from the closest office location.

Its an extremely lovely job but the dynamics of it had me thinking that any RTO would be nearly impossible so its been worth floating on.

We all just recieved notice that we are to head into the nearest office 3 days per week regardless of distance. Unless their goal is to fire basically everyone im not sure how this is going to work, but I'm excited to see it play out.

For the past few weeks I've been responding to a lot of job postings. No response so far unless you count all the scam emails I now recieve.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Srice posted:

I had to RTO so I have been looking around for something new because I hate the commute. poo poo sucks, why is Workday so bad. Why do I gotta create a million Workday accounts. Why do they not just have one unified account. Also I've had plenty of interviews that I thought went well, they'd say they would get back to me in a few days and a week later they got nothing and won't return my emails.

they all parse resumes so badly, like bro im not writing a separate blurb of what i did just read my resume

Badactura
Feb 14, 2019

My wish lives in the future.
I got a desk job and now I'm getting fat

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

I've stopped job hunting for a bit to refocus on a bigass woodworking project and I'm the happiest I've been in a while

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Acelerion posted:

Dear CSAM, I never thought it could happen to me. In my companies entire product line of about 1,000 people Id say half of us were hired on remote. Hundreds of miles from the closest office location.

Its an extremely lovely job but the dynamics of it had me thinking that any RTO would be nearly impossible so its been worth floating on.

We all just recieved notice that we are to head into the nearest office 3 days per week regardless of distance. Unless their goal is to fire basically everyone im not sure how this is going to work, but I'm excited to see it play out.

For the past few weeks I've been responding to a lot of job postings. No response so far unless you count all the scam emails I now recieve.

It's a way to juice commercial real estate valuations + layoff huge swathes of the work force w/o firing and severance etc.

Have fun OP. And welcome back to the office there's a fresh pot on 5 smile.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

AnimeIsTrash posted:

they all parse resumes so badly, like bro im not writing a separate blurb of what i did just read my resume

Right? It's honestly impressive how awful it is. No matter how I format it on my resume I always have to reenter what my college degree is because it parses where I went but not what I studied. Bafflingly bad.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
wish me luck boyos i applied for a govt job

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

wish me luck boyos i applied for a govt job

Been doing that too. Long waits tho so I'm looking for something else that'll pay the bills and I'll keep applying to remote gov jobs.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Job hunting sucks. Having a job sucks. Can't win

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

Job hunting sucks. Having a job sucks. Can't win

I miss most things about being unemployed tbh

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

wish me luck boyos i applied for a govt job

Same here I just sent my info over to Quantico and Langley

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



Being unemployed made me realize how truly long a day is. So many hours and so many things to do. The real reason they don't want to hire people with gaps in their resume is because you've seen too much. You might start spreading dangerous ideas if they let you back inside.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Koishi Komeiji posted:

Being unemployed made me realize how truly long a day is. So many hours and so many things to do. The real reason they don't want to hire people with gaps in their resume is because you've seen too much. You might start spreading dangerous ideas if they let you back inside.

Like with the Overseer at the end of Fallout 1, yes

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Koishi Komeiji posted:

Being unemployed made me realize how truly long a day is. So many hours and so many things to do. The real reason they don't want to hire people with gaps in their resume is because you've seen too much. You might start spreading dangerous ideas if they let you back inside.

yeah when i was unemployed i could get a lot of work done on factorio

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

in the last 24 hours i've spent eight of them in meetings

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Fortaleza posted:

I've stopped job hunting for a bit to refocus on a bigass woodworking project and I'm the happiest I've been in a while

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triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Srice posted:

I had to RTO so I have been looking around for something new because I hate the commute. poo poo sucks, why is Workday so bad. Why do I gotta create a million Workday accounts. Why do they not just have one unified account. Also I've had plenty of interviews that I thought went well, they'd say they would get back to me in a few days and a week later they got nothing and won't return my emails.

the serious answer is that it's on a tenant basis for whatever reason, probably so data isn't shared across companies. personally, i just use a password manager with the same exact username applied to the workday domain so i can fill the sign up info with a simple key command and forget about it forever

it doesn't resolve workday's core problems with being too long to apply and being unable to correctly parse your resume, but it helps. that said, greenhouse and its clones are all terrible for the exact opposite reason, being that it's way, way too easy to apply for jobs, so at least a thousand people apply to every position. in short, all the application systems are terrible. icims is the worst that i can recall interacting with though

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

i say swears online posted:

I got voluntold to host the Christmas party at my new job

I think it's really important for your advancement that you get involved. Your coworkers will all appreciate it. Anyway the budget is $35, go wild!

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i can tell you the answer re: workday and its exactly as sulk describes, applicants are unique to each tenant. now it would be loving awesome if worked on a shared basis but i think its illegal for them to share candidates that way for now

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

triple sulk posted:

the serious answer is that it's on a tenant basis for whatever reason, probably so data isn't shared across companies. personally, i just use a password manager with the same exact username applied to the workday domain so i can fill the sign up info with a simple key command and forget about it forever

it doesn't resolve workday's core problems with being too long to apply and being unable to correctly parse your resume, but it helps. that said, greenhouse and its clones are all terrible for the exact opposite reason, being that it's way, way too easy to apply for jobs, so at least a thousand people apply to every position. in short, all the application systems are terrible. icims is the worst that i can recall interacting with though


Al! posted:

i can tell you the answer re: workday and its exactly as sulk describes, applicants are unique to each tenant. now it would be loving awesome if worked on a shared basis but i think its illegal for them to share candidates that way for now

that all makes sense, though it is still annoying! and yeah I have been keeping my username/password consistent for all workday stuff since that's the only way to stay sane

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Al! posted:

i can tell you the answer re: workday and its exactly as sulk describes, applicants are unique to each tenant. now it would be loving awesome if worked on a shared basis but i think its illegal for them to share candidates that way for now

i'm guessing gdpr has a a big effect too, but i'd also venture that it doesn't really matter in the end since i doubt greenhouse or other similar systems (lever for example is basically a carbon copy for applying, being braindead easy) do anything similar

i think they're probably just covering their own rear end more than anything because they're the biggest one (afaik)

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



i hate greenhouse so much

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



love this post from r/recruitinghell showing the modern job search experience

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Vox Nihili posted:

I think it's really important for your advancement that you get involved. Your coworkers will all appreciate it. Anyway the budget is $35, go wild!

this is exactly what's happening and i want to die. this is the first year the director hasn't been involved in the last decade. literally no employee that's been here longer than two years wanted to help

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

triple sulk posted:

i'm guessing gdpr has a a big effect too, but i'd also venture that it doesn't really matter in the end since i doubt greenhouse or other similar systems (lever for example is basically a carbon copy for applying, being braindead easy) do anything similar

i think they're probably just covering their own rear end more than anything because they're the biggest one (afaik)

the bigger issue is that theres too much money to be made to not have unified recruiting systems. recruiters buy blocks of resumes from websites like indeed, which if they could just access the millions of Workday candidates they wont need.

another issue is the way Workday is structured. instead of being a database (a bunch of unrelated tables that can be queried with sql) workday is entirely object oriented and therefore customizable. a candidate at one company could have a bunch of custom data attahced to it, that would cause errors if trying to port it to another tenant. also required fields, application questionnaires etc. then theres the whole nightmare of background checks.

right now, indeed is about as unified a system as youre going to get. at least some systems integrate directly with indeed so you can just quick apply that way

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
ps im probably one of the foremost workday experts that doesnt work for workday ama

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

fwiw (and was just mentioned upthread) i've never gotten a single response from an indeed 'easy apply' option which is obviously because each posting received thousands of applicants

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
yeah idk seems like a lot pf goons are helpdesk or programmers working in large cities which right now sounds like a bad thing employment wise. everyone took hillary's advice and learned to code (when they really should have gone to nursing school instead) and now tech is deflating and those skills arent as needed in big cities anymore

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Al! posted:

yeah idk seems like a lot pf goons are helpdesk or programmers working in large cities which right now sounds like a bad thing employment wise. everyone took hillary's advice and learned to code (when they really should have gone to nursing school instead) and now tech is deflating and those skills arent as needed in big cities anymore
most of that was all fueled by ZIRP, just guzzling down trillions of dollars off the free money spigot where the money waterfalls could never end. coupled with smartphone internet being the new capital frontier (after conquering and exploiting the new world, gold rushes, industrialization and locomotion, original digital e-frontier, etc) and everyone college-ing right around the dotcom 2.0 revival. so yes there's now tens of thousand computer touchers trying to relive the good ol' VC unicorn FAMANG days all looking to get a job on the few fartapps

anyways people should learn2coal instead.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i say swears online posted:

this is exactly what's happening and i want to die. this is the first year the director hasn't been involved in the last decade. literally no employee that's been here longer than two years wanted to help

in the last hour the planning committee decided on catering from olive garden but everyone attending has to contribute $10

state government owns

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

i say swears online posted:

in the last hour the planning committee decided on catering from olive garden but everyone attending has to contribute $10

state government owns
lmao come on, olive garden???? at least like get make-your-own-tacos catered with all those giant trays of stuff for that price

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

I liked walking to my office in downtown Minneapolis but now the few times I go the only people I see outside the center are sad and poor and stoned out of their minds. and the train stations reek of piss. which bums me, the real victim, out

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Lol yeah lemme just buy a ticket to the stupid end of year party

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

mistermojo posted:

I liked walking to my office in downtown Minneapolis but now the few times I go the only people I see outside the center are sad and poor and stoned out of their minds. and the train stations reek of piss. which bums me, the real victim, out
that's right. thats why you should wfh only job

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

In Training posted:

Lol yeah lemme just buy a ticket to the stupid end of year party

a must for those gentlemen looking to share a swig off their flask with Tiffany the receptionist. (does this person exist anymore? both the desperate cubicle critter and also Tiffany. I’ve never had a real job)

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
at our end of the year party we had a guy make risotto in a giant block of cheese. then afterwards i found out the lady who planned the party was in big trouble for spending so much money on the party

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