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This is the November Current Events thread. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/tech/sam-altman-ai-risk-taker/index.html quote:Sam Altman thinks the technology underpinning his company’s most famous product could bring about the end of human civilization.
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Altman and the big industry titans are all in favor of new regulations because those regulations will entrench the market advantage that current leaders with money have. Tale as old as time.
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Nov 1, 2023 16:59
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I'm just gonna assume this is Eliezer Yudkowsky's fault somehow.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:08
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Quackles posted:I'm just gonna assume this is Eliezer Yudkowsky's fault somehow. I hate how so many of the Internet weirdos we used to laugh at a decade ago are all now in the mainstream. Dork enlightenment, AI cults, anti-vax, cryptocurrency bros, and all other kinds of proto-fash bullshit. Though I guess we owe juggalos and furries an apology because those groups cleaned house much better than anyone else has.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:13
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I would simply ban AI
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Nov 1, 2023 17:16
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Milo and POTUS posted:I would simply ban AI instructions unclear, now banning anyone who's posted in automotive insanity
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Nov 1, 2023 17:18
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https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1719721047216329058?t=jwTz3TWRnHh2id9yoV5PkA&s=19 LEAVE 
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Nov 1, 2023 17:24
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Junior is doing fine and doesn't seem to want to be left alone - he's got his podcast, he's driving late models, I don't know why OH not Junior Junior, the dipshit one
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Nov 1, 2023 17:36
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maffew buildings posted:Junior is doing fine and doesn't seem to want to be left alone - he's got his podcast, he's driving late models, I don't know why OH not Junior Junior, the dipshit one I can never remember which one is Stank and which one is Chode. I also do not care enough to attempt to do so.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:41
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Milo and POTUS posted:I would simply ban AI How? It's like the internet or social media, there are going to be all sorts of goofy downstream effects but the genie is out of the bottle.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:45
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:How? It's like the internet or social media, there are going to be all sorts of goofy downstream effects but the genie is out of the bottle. And if it can produce things, the least beneficial thing you could do for yourself is to give away control of it to rich people aka, das kapital.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:54
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:How? It's like the internet or social media, there are going to be all sorts of goofy downstream effects but the genie is out of the bottle. Right now the biggest limiting factor in AI is the high end chips you need absolute shitloads of to run your models efficiently. A big part of the CHIPs act and other export restrictions to China is based on keeping them from accessing the hardware needed to operate equally powerful AI models. So one avenue of attack is to regulate the chips and look really close at anyone buying up large numbers of them. Alternatively we could just start the Butlerian Jihad.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:54
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maffew buildings posted:Junior is doing fine and doesn't seem to want to be left alone - he's got his podcast, he's driving late models, I don't know why OH not Junior Junior, the dipshit one That's JunYER.
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Nov 1, 2023 17:55
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Soylent Pudding posted:Right now the biggest limiting factor in AI is the high end chips you need absolute shitloads of to run your models efficiently. A big part of the CHIPs act and other export restrictions to China is based on keeping them from accessing the hardware needed to operate equally powerful AI models. So one avenue of attack is to regulate the chips and look really close at anyone buying up large numbers of them. 
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Nov 1, 2023 18:03
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Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind just sounds like common sense
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Nov 1, 2023 18:15
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MA-Horus posted:Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind just sounds like common sense But what it could make me money?
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Nov 1, 2023 18:17
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From the previous month:quote:Huh. I'd thought the 'porch light on = we have candy, porch light off = no candy/not home' was more widespread. There's not a lot you can do when you live in an apartment building and have no control over the light out front. quote:Trying to imagine what form of anxiety becomes crippling when children in costume ring the door bell, then really trying to imagine how the thought of putting a "NO TREATS" sign on the door is a good idea considering the desired outcome. I have a bad startle response to sudden loud noises and it wasn't knocking or ringing the doorbell, they were basically pounding on it. I'm not kidding when I say the last one to "knock" sounded more like someone trying to punt our front door -- a loud enough bang that it made us both jump. If we had a doorbell, or a way to actually see people approaching the door, it would have been less bad. AreWeDrunkYet posted:How? It's like the internet or social media, there are going to be all sorts of goofy downstream effects but the genie is out of the bottle. Regulate it out of existence. You won't be able to get rid of it all, sure, but with things like "anything AI-generated is uncopyrightable" it'll become less palatable, and especially if any of the lawsuits currently investigating "hey your training data just slurped up a bunch of copyrighted poo poo illegally" pan out against AI it could change pretty quick.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:25
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I went over my friend's place last night, and he and his wife have an annual gimmick where they give out full size bars but the kids (or adults) have to "earn" it. This year it was by voting for their favorite Disney movie, using magnets and a big chart taped on to the garage door. It was very fun, especially when kids would try to put their favorite movies all the way to the top of the chart 
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Nov 1, 2023 18:32
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Hekk posted:This is the November Current Events thread. Really tired of this 'Its going to end civilization'. No. Its not. Its not AI. This is not something that'll ever be capable of being self-ware. It doesn't even understand what it tells users. At best it will cause major damage because some executive or government moron will take it at its word. AI as it exists is nothing more than a buzzword and marketing hype. Calling it an LLM or even a Chat Bot is more accurate.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:36
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CommieGIR posted:Really tired of this 'Its going to end civilization'. Good then get rid of now before they get better.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:42
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CBJSprague24 posted:That's JunYER. right, that's what my brain interprets written "junior" as, because that's how it's said and who it refers to. on topic - I am down for Butlerian Jihad
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Nov 1, 2023 18:44
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Zamujasa posted:Regulate it out of existence. You won't be able to get rid of it all, sure, but with things like "anything AI-generated is uncopyrightable" it'll become less palatable, and especially if any of the lawsuits currently investigating "hey your training data just slurped up a bunch of copyrighted poo poo illegally" pan out against AI it could change pretty quick. jurisdictions exist in the world other than the US and EU, so even if you can convince legislators to cripple their domestic industry and hand an advantage to China or whomever, other places are still gonna develop that poo poo you can't very well stop digital products at the border either (US states are sorta trying with TikTok, but going to fail spectacularly in the courts), as we learned during the 90s export crypto nonsense--you may stop domestic firms from exporting it as part of a complete system, but that just means they lose out on the sales after it's inevitably transferred to someone outside your jurisdiction who can build the code into their own hardware such restrictions can work to slow down other parts of the world in developing, say, semiconductors, since those require immensely complicated and expensive physical facilities (and there's indeed an argument the US did so to hinder Chinese AI work), but the code/model portion is just copy/paste
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Nov 1, 2023 18:47
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Crab Dad posted:Good then get rid of now before they get better. But there's money to be made and venture capitalists to fleece!
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Nov 1, 2023 18:55
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CommieGIR posted:Really tired of this 'Its going to end civilization'. The "going to end civilization" angle itself is just marketing hype This tech is so powerful, it even scares me! This is professional grade software the pros don't want you to know about! Trust me, this AI stuff is too powerful for novices!
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Nov 1, 2023 18:56
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I wish people felt that strongly about taking action to limit environmental damage or far right violent wackjobs intent on spreading their poison.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:04
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CBJSprague24 posted:That's JunYER. Junker?
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Zamujasa posted:I have a bad startle response to sudden loud noises and it wasn't knocking or ringing the doorbell, they were basically pounding on it. I'm not kidding when I say the last one to "knock" sounded more like someone trying to punt our front door -- a loud enough bang that it made us both jump. The fact that you even had to elaborate on unexpected noises like banging and explosions in a thread full of vets is the ridiculous part. I know it varies by region, but when I lived in an apartment building long ago, the unspoken thing with the kids is they'd only knock on the unit doors that were decorated. (in general where I'm from, it's the combination of lights and decorations that signal to the kids that the house is a stopping place) For a while I just put a bowl on an endtable for the kids to help themselves from in order to spare the cats the disturbance of the door banging but that was basically two dozen kids who did the 'home circuit' in the building before they went into the greater neighborhoods to make out like little bandits, and there was always a pile of fullsized bars leftover. Next year though, you should hit the hardware store and get a few pieces of 2" pvc pipe and some bends and couplers and make a little frame that you can fit up against the door on the inside to hang a heavy blanket on. It'll help dull the noises, and then disassemble and tuck out of the way until the next season.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:12
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Soylent Pudding posted:Alternatively we could just start the Butlerian Jihad. This was the implication but some people need a big ole butthole worm to get the point I guess
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Nov 1, 2023 19:13
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1719690773673750882?t=_68Eh-Q8H8-SzlLiSE_Y9A&s=19 This corrupt gently caress
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Nov 1, 2023 19:29
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Bored As gently caress posted:https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1719690773673750882?t=_68Eh-Q8H8-SzlLiSE_Y9A&s=19 I can't decide if this took too long to come out or if it was a quick turn around. I kind of assumed the guy was crooked, but wasn't sure how or when that information would come to light. Odds of a shutdown are looking good!
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Nov 1, 2023 19:46
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Soylent Pudding posted:Right now the biggest limiting factor in AI is the high end chips you need absolute shitloads of to run your models efficiently. A big part of the CHIPs act and other export restrictions to China is based on keeping them from accessing the hardware needed to operate equally powerful AI models. So one avenue of attack is to regulate the chips and look really close at anyone buying up large numbers of them. That seems like it would inhibit a variety of different R&D avenues in addition to adding a ton of burdensome regulation and cost to purchasing computer chips.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:13
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The Eyes Have It posted:I wish people felt that strongly about taking action to limit environmental damage or far right violent wackjobs intent on spreading their poison. This. AI is sooooo dangerous but actual work on curbing greenhouse emissions? That sounds like work. 10th hottest summer in a row you say? Unusual you say? Maybe ChatGPT can solve this one, too!
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Nov 1, 2023 20:15
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:jurisdictions exist in the world other than the US and EU, so even if you can convince legislators to cripple their domestic industry and hand an advantage to China or whomever, other places are still gonna develop that poo poo That’s a good point, I was thinking about the book The Box about shipping containers & how ports that failed to adapt didn’t mean the world was forced to stick with loading/unloading by hand, the modernized ports just became so much faster and cheaper all were forced to adapt or go out of business & before long the idea of operating a port without container cranes would be absurd.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:42
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Bored As gently caress posted:https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1719690773673750882?t=_68Eh-Q8H8-SzlLiSE_Y9A&s=19 *shrug* What's going to happen to him about it? He's a republican. They don't even bother with strongly worded letters to file in the circular bin anymore. This guy could be as bought and paid for as Clarence Thomas is and the only thing that will ever, ever happen is a few seconds thought about how they can attack the democrats with the same talking point.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:43
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Looks like the Osprey nearly claimed a press crew, just broke too soon: https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1719794357513961487?t=aWDYdVx39rPGWGplq8mU-Q&s=19
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Nov 1, 2023 20:44
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Bored As gently caress posted:https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1719690773673750882?t=_68Eh-Q8H8-SzlLiSE_Y9A&s=19 Assets: deez nuts
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facialimpediment posted:Looks like the Osprey nearly claimed a press crew, just broke too soon: Lmao, we're just gonna put you on a different deathtrap if you don't mind. Oh don't like it? Well, you're free to leave at any time. If you'll just step into this osprey,
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Nov 1, 2023 20:47
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Reposting from another threadJiro posted:
If this touches the military side of the biz, I wonder how many heads will roll.
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Nov 1, 2023 21:31
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Goddamn Boeing hacked.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTEcTSj1He0 Aussie war criminal can't help himself
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Post-Halloween chat: Last year the apartment complex did a tick-or-treat event and I got to pass out candy. (I've rarely gotten trick-or-treaters). I had fun and I'm proud that I can buy expensive MARS brands for kids. So this year I bought 70$ worth of overpriced candy and low and behold no trick-or-treat event. So I left out a bowl of candy last night, hoping some of the local basketball kids would take some. I few kids took some candy, but I've still got bags left that I want to get rid of, so I left out the candy bowl today around when the school busses drop off kids. Low and beyond the entire bowl was empty. So hopefully I can get rid of all this candy soon and not in my gut.
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