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Which PFL champion are you most looking forward to seeing this month? This poll is closed. |
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| Olivier Aubin-Mercier |
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1 | 3.85% |
| Larissa Pacheco |
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4 | 15.38% |
| Sadibou Sy |
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1 | 3.85% |
| Lance Palmer |
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0 | 0% |
| Nicco Montano |
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1 | 3.85% |
| Alexander Shlemenko |
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2 | 7.69% |
| Bobby Southworth |
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3 | 11.54% |
| Hardcore Holly |
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14 | 53.85% |
| Total: | 26 votes | ||
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Digital Jedi posted:Cool spinning back fist earlier today the first three are all extremely cool but the fourth one is gone now
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Digital Jedi posted:Yea looks like Rizin had them all strike down Ref was asleep at the wheel lol
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Nov 7, 2023 16:34
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I think the fact this conversation is happening at all says everything you need to know. The basketball or baseball or soccer threads don’t have periodic group introspection sessions where they all ponder why it’s not the same anymore
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Nov 15, 2023 16:46
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I guess to participate I still love watching mma and kickboxing but I haven’t paid for anything related in years and no longer have any knowledge of the deep bench fighters and stuff that I used to. The UFC as a “league” is so poorly promoted and presented doing anything but watching the fights themselves is misery
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Nov 15, 2023 16:54
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Fedor is only talked about with any sort of reverence in MMA communities because he's become that sort of mythical grandfather figure that is obviously the best because everyone says he's the best. A bit like saying Cobain was one of the greatest guitarists in history. Who do you think was better in 03 04? Hell, it's really not until he started losing fights in 2010 that the UFC had a heavyweight champ he wouldn't have been heavily favored against (Cain). Don't get me wrong I agree that he certainly wasn't anywhere as good as some people would have you believe but it's not like there were any other, better heavyweights at the time. He beat Big Nog repeatedly, he beat Cro Cop, he beat Tim Sylvia and Arlovski (lol), he almost certainly would have beaten eg Couture or Lesnar.
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Nov 24, 2023 20:28
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Snowman_McK posted:Frank Mir. Genuinely. Mir is simultaneously a ridiculous person with many extremely funny losses and also the guy with one of the most insanely impressive resumes in the sport. 03-04 he's pre motorcycle accident and Fedor is getting outboxed by Fujita. I guess it’s pretty hard to quantify the effect of the crash, but he had just been knocked out by Ian freeman, a hard hitting but mediocre journeyman, and when he came back got knocked out by Cruz, another journeyman and not even a knockout artist, and Brandon Vera, who was looking like hot poo poo but got beat up by Tim Sylvia and Werdum right after and never had another good win in his entire career. Could he have beaten Emelianenko? Absolutely, he wasn’t an invincible cyborg KGB assassin Bond villain, he was a flawed light heavyweight competing up a weight (honestly in the modern game he might be best off at middleweight) who mainly just hit hard and was better at integrating grappling and striking than his opponents because sambo already did that. Mir was a better pure grappler and bigger and stronger, but he was very vulnerable to being knocked out by any decent hitter (unless they were a kickboxer who couldn’t stop his grappling at all). Thinking about this has just made me realize exactly how mediocre the heavyweights were at the time (and all times) even though that generation of light and heavyweights was what got me into the sport initially
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