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I wonder how long the BBC have known about the rights thing with An Unearthly Child, because while it IS the Daleks, I can't imagine the big 60th Anniversary colourised re-airing being the SECOND ever story is intentional, surely you'd want the bookend of the first ever story?
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Diabolik900 posted:I don’t know anything about British copyright law, but I’m guessing the guy at least has enough of a case to make it a headache for the BBC to fight, even if they would end up winning in the end. It's this. They're being cautious by not uploading the first serial to iPlayer because it's gonna take longer to litigate than the next fortnight, but even with the Tories breathing down their neck, the BBC has solicitors better than one random son of a writer is gonna be able to afford.
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Nov 7, 2023 19:56
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That was some primo RTD poo poo, in mostly the positive senses of that. Just full on nonsense with the technobabble and fixing the ship undoing the cracks in the earth, but who cares because the emotions work, and basically flipping off the usual culture war shitheads by having conspicuous representation that can't be misinterpreted. Harlock posted:Yeah there were some references, I just meant it seems like the most peaceful regeneration that's ever happened. No amnesia, or sleepiness, or losing a step. Just a fully formed Doctor right out of the gate. I think this is down to 3 factors: 1. Metatextual: The audience knows Tennant and RTD clearly wasn't interested in him giving a radically different performance, so there's not much point in going through the dance of 'what will the new Doctor be like' 2. Plot mechanics: The Doctor wasn't travelling with anyone, and by virtue of the narrative Sword of Damocles RTD had set up for Donna, she can't really take point on the sci-fi mystery of the episode as a companion often does in a regeneration story. Sure, Rose might've been able to, but she wasn't really the focus of the story in that way. Therefore it just makes things work smoother if the Doctor can do stuff as normal from the get-go 3. The Watsonian version: It's a pretty easy leap that because this is a form the Doctor's been in before, there's not the usual confusion or settling in process for them. He's just "Oh, this again, i know how this body and brain work, welp, better get on with it, allons-y"
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Vinylshadow posted:Watching the Unleashed for the Star Beast and Tennant and Tate are joking that he could've done something original for Fourteen rather than play it as Ten again, like changing the accent, and now I kinda wish they'd gone with that, just to lean into that something about the whole thing is weird, like every other Doctor is Scottish for some reason Honestly, it would've been fun if he played it as basically Ten but just using his normal accent. But on the other hand it's also amusing that he's the only Scot to play the Doctor who hasn't been allowed to use a Scottish accent. (From the little we've heard of Ncuti in the role, it sounds like he's using his normal speaking voice/accent as well)
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Honestly the modern aspect of the TARDIS actually being able to hit where the Doctor wants to go kinda wrecks the easy answer to that: The Tegan, where they get caught up in an adventure, and whoops, oh no, the Doctor can't get them back home (of course this would prevent half the season being set in modern London/Cardiff)
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Nov 26, 2023 03:26
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I wouldn't be shocked if the Ood stuffy at least was some kind of foreshadowing.
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Nov 26, 2023 03:28
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Jerusalem posted:Ood: Hi Doctor, just wanted to let you know I hit the undo button in that space station place, an- lol, I was thinking more that RTD probably can't resist this ending with some kind of Ood Sigma callback. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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Nov 26, 2023 03:35
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I was a bit sad that Donna immediately loved it when it was an obvious set up for the 'you redecorated?!' gag.
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Melusine posted:You can use she/her pronouns for Rose—that's what everyone in the show does, in addition to Donna explicitly calling Rose her daughter a bunch of times. I take the 'non-binary' line as RTD trying to be cute, and being well-meaning but a bit old/cis. It's speaking to an idea that transpeople transcend or are outside the gender binary, even those who are 'binary' transpeople like Rose seems to be (and Yasmin Finney is, as far as I'm aware). But again, this is Davies Who, it's about the emotions and vibes way more than the literal text 90% of the time, and those work.
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HD DAD posted:He’s the “please watch Doctor Who again” Doctor With a hint of trying to shore up an audience heading into the actual new Doctor's run
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:There are non-binary people that use she/her pronouns tbh. It's... not that strange. This is true, and in fairness to all of Rusty's Garth Marenghi approach to subtext, the lines at the end might have been intended as putting this point across, I think it does at least highlight that English is a lovely language to get across some of these ideas, especially in how it's socially coded because using words like 'daughter' definitely prime a viewer/listener to make some assumptions rightly or wrongly. On a related but very positive note, having reflected, I actually really like the whole sequence of the Noble women at home. It's just a very tight bit of writing in microcosm of showing contrasting aspects of a family supporting this young woman. From Donna going full mama bear on the lovely transphobic classmates deadnaming Rose in the street, to her own monologue about how an unexpected avenue of a child coming into her own is what every parent hopes for, to Sylvia being well-meaning but a bit anxious about getting things wrong and making little mistakes (notably the pronoun slip only happens AFTER Rose has left the scene so it doesn't read as a microaggression, more a legit error from someone who's trying to learn).
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Nov 26, 2023 16:56
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eke out posted:yeah i thought this was by far the best bit -- the grandma that's clearly trying very hard and probably thinking too much about saying the right pronouns when Rose is around but then messing up and anxiously apologizing to her daughter, that's downright subtle and realistic compared to the rest of the content. This is the thing. Russell loves sci-fi but in a 60 minute script he really doesn't care if the McGuffins make sense, but his other work has always excelled at character focus. Honestly, I think Chibnall's problem is he's not as good at that as RTD and not as good at mystery box plotting as Moffat, so he was left with what felt like a weirdly muted halfway house that never quite nailed either of those nor found it's own way.
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jisforjosh posted:Seeing chuds online mad about little things like a soldier being Sikh just proves how laser targeted RTD is with pissing them off and I love it This was so just, like, contemporary Britain that it didn't even register with me as one of the things the dipshits would get up in arms about. Maybe it's just where I'm from, but the sight of a soldier or a copper in a turban and beard is just like.. unremarkable.
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Nov 26, 2023 20:09
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I'm not sure it's even clear they HAVE one most of the time in the new series.
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Cleretic posted:Yes, and in the process becomes one of the most powerful cards in Magic's Commander format. Turns out deleting the words 'at the end of turn, sacrifice this' from cards is very powerful.
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I will say it was a bit difficult to get a handle on the score in this episode, it played a bit like Gold's Greatest Hits at times.
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Cleretic posted:A general pitch of what every deck's main 'thing' is: More specifically: The Classic Doctors deck is focused on the 'historic' mechanic which does INCLUDE Sagas, but also does stuff with artifacts and legendary creatures. And the Ten/Eleven deck actually adds a 'time travel' mechanic to mess with a few existing mechanics (suspend and vanishing) and let things happen sooner, or stop later than they otherwise would.
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I was pleasantly surprised when I noticed their ray guns weren't even scratching the paint on Donna's hubby's cab, and then a second later the Doctor pointed out that as a plot point and not just rushed SFX.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea I was "well, that's weird, they should be damaging things, at least blow up the car" but then they're revealed to be non leathal and I was "oh yea that makes sense". 2 more the next 2 Saturdays, then Ncuti takes over at Xmas.
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In fairness to Tennant, he's never really stopped playing the Doctor. His most recent Big Finish story came out 2 months ago.
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It's not even that but it's an understandable impulse from Chibnall - just a very misguided one. It seems pretty clearly aimed at the same target as Cartmel all those years back: The Doctor's not Mysterious Enough any more, but the reasoning is different for the Timeless Child than the Other. Chibnall seems to think the issue is that we know too much about Gallifrey for the Doctor's origin to be properly mysterious so they have to be a Special Child from Somewhere Else that we don't know anything about. Except that in introducing that you have to explain way more about Gallifrey and also have to try and squeeze in why the Doctor thinks they're from Gallifrey and whoops you've just added way more lore in your attempt to obfuscate the lore. At least the Cartmel Masterplan had the element of the Doctor knowing way more than they were telling the companions/audience so there was the intrigue of 'what does he know that we don't'. The Timeless Child stuff is pointless because the show's not going to pivot to the Doctor trying to find their lost true people (partly because that's not the format and partly because that would defeat the purpose of trying to inject mystery) but that's the only logical response to the reveal so.... the show just tries to wave it's hands and hope you don't think too much about it once the episode is over. It honestly reminds me of superhero comics. Specifically characters like the Donna Troy Wonder Girl, Power Girl or Hawkman, where every other writer tries to 'fix' their convoluted backstory but because they have to reconcile why their new version doesn't line up with previous canon it just layers on top and makes things even more muddled than just leaving it alone would.
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Slyphic posted:People keep putting words in my mouth; worship, gush. The cool thing wasn't the Doctor. It was the spaceship, and she was professional but engaged and excited about that. Her reaction to the Doctor was one of meeting the guy that used to do her job. She treated him like a peer, kind of like Liz Shaw did.
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Nonsense cameos from slightly past their prime TV presenters? RTD really is back baby!
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The commentary for last week's episode is a lot of fun if only for the fact that it's clearly Phil Collinson and David Tennant: Whovians and then the other producer who is A Lady What Makes Doctor Who As Her Job.
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Khanstant posted:Need a campaign going to get Jodie back to lock the door. It's also amusing because David's the one where the idea that the Doctor can unlock the door without the key was introduced. Granted that was a Moffat script, not Rusty, but...
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Resdfru posted:I could be misremembering cause jodies run is the only one I've never watched more than once. But I remember complaining to my wife that it seemed like they were writing so many episodes where the tardis was barely in it. Like some sort of challenge to themselves to write around it or something. As iconic as it is, the TARDIS only matters in so much as it's how the heroes get to The Place.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:As much as I like 5’s or 13’s full tardis crews, having a single companion is just easier all around. You don’t end up with episodes where half the companions don’t have anything to do or are completely forgotten until the last act, plus it lets you focus more on other guest characters that are only relevant to the current episode. I think 2 companions is the sweet spot. Jamie and Zoe, Amy and Rory, Bill and Nardole, even Nyssa and Tegan work, because you can have a simple A/B plot structure (Doctor and Companion 1 do something, Companion 2 gets captured or goes off with the guest star). When you get above that you have problems
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HD DAD posted:It’s 2027 and budget cuts have necessitated a new Tardis set, but it’s a barely disguised and still functional Wendy’s. This is just the Bistromath!
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Zohar posted:In the behind the scenes RTD says he played with having the first doctor involved somehow since it's an anniversary ep but decided to just stick closer to the episode's main idea, which is probably for the best I wouldn't be shocked if they pull out a bit of reshot material from the original Toymaker story using NPH and Bradley next week in a flashback
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CobiWann posted:That scene in the hallway where Fourteen loses in and starts screaming while hitting the wall... it's rare to see the Doctor THAT angry, and that's a scene that'll stick with me. Yeah, that scene made me go "Oh right, Tennant can act"
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Yeah, there's a weird trend in the last decade+ of cinematographers and sound editors sort of looking down on traditional TV as a medium. They shoot and mix for darkened rooms on giant 4K displays or projectors, with 7.1 systems. It actually makes them seem kind of limited and bad at their jobs if they can't adapt to how the audience is going to experience the piece and achieve their goals within that brief.
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AndyElusive posted:It would be crazy if Ncuti doesn't inherit this version of the TARDIS considering the sheer level of size and detail in it's design. It looks like he is, just they're gonna add some props to the central area.
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I do find it interesting that Murray's been threading I Am The Doctor in these episodes, seeing as that was Matt's theme, and it wasn't used for Capaldi or Jodie.
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twistedmentat posted:Something that annoyed me about later Capaldi was his transformation into Cool Dad Doctor. It was like he walked onto set and went "I am going to wear what I came in on, and give me sunglasses and let me play my guitar. 'annoyed me' is a weird way to spell 'was rad as gently caress'. I think trying to make Capaldi into the second coming of Pertwee like Moffat was trying early on was jamming a square peg into a round hole. The whole 'uni lecturer who stayed up until 4am at the student union doing mushrooms and jamming on his guitar' vibe fit him way better.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:"Anyone for Dodgems?" is one of the greatest Doctor entrances ever put to screen. "Of course the real question is: Where did he get the cup of tea?"
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Cleretic posted:As much as I don't like Kerblam, I think its message is positively salvageable compared to the worst of Capaldi. Honestly, I know it's unpopular, but Peter Harness might be a worse writer for Who than Chibnall. I know people love the Zygon two parter for some reason but I kind of hate the ending? The whole monologue that amounts to the most wishy-washy 'why can't we get along' without actually thinking about any of the underlying reasons for conflict.
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Didn't they originally do a toxx to review all of Tim Allen's lovely Fox sitcom and then did another one that led to doing Who?
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Dabir posted:idk what's so cool about the special weapons dalek but it just is always fun to see it has a big gun that goes boom, op
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Small detail from last episode: I really loved the scene with the Doctor just screaming and lashing out after the Donna entity got him to lower his guard and open up about the Flux and Timeless Child stuff, both for Tennant's raw performance, but also for the, I assume very deliberate, choice to have him kick the wall 5 times. I'd bet they wanted more than 3 because rule of three would make that seem too controlled, too rote, but if they go to four, the fandom would be fuckin weirdoes, so welp, gotta go to 5.
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Boxturret posted:I can't decide should count! The Master even sings along! (Genuinely my favourite detail. I assume the experience on set was Simm just singing Scissor Sisters at the top of his lungs to utter silence as he hit his marks and choreo.) Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Dec 7, 2023 |
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