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Nosre posted:Dane's Mock 1.0 is out. I forget, can we post archive.ph links here? 1. Chicago Bears (from CAR): Caleb Williams, QB, USC 2. Arizona Cardinals: Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State 3. New England Patriots: Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina 4. Chicago Bears: Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame 5. Washington Commanders: Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State 6. New York Giants: Malik Nabers, WR, LSU 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU 8. New York Jets: Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia 9. Los Angeles Chargers: JC Latham, OT, Alabama 10. Tennessee Titans: Dallas Turner, Edge, Alabama 11. Las Vegas Raiders: Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson 12. New Orleans Saints: Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State 13. Green Bay Packers: Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama 14. Los Angeles Rams: Laiatu Latu, Edge, UCLA 15. Cincinnati Bengals: Rome Odunze, WR, Washington 16. Buffalo Bills: Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 17. Arizona Cardinals (from HOU): Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State 18. Denver Broncos: Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama 19. Atlanta Falcons: Chop Robinson, Edge, Penn State 20. Minnesota Vikings: Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois 21. Indianapolis Colts: Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma 22. Seattle Seahawks: J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan 23. Pittsburgh Steelers: Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU 24. Houston Texans (from CLE): Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa 25. Miami Dolphins: Troy Fautanu, OT/G, Washington 26. Dallas Cowboys: Graham Barton, G/C, Duke 27. Detroit Lions: JT Tuimoloau, Edge, Ohio State 28. Jacksonville Jaguars: Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State 29. Kansas City Chiefs: Patrick Paul, OT, Houston 30. San Francisco 49ers: Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State 31. Baltimore Ravens: Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo 32. Philadelphia Eagles: Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
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Nov 29, 2023 15:36
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Don't think Penix goes to Day Two, unless I'm missing something.
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Nov 29, 2023 15:59
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Probably Magic posted:Don't think Penix goes to Day Two, unless I'm missing something. Most of the mocks I've seen have him in the second round.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:01
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Mock drafts should include the 33rd pick imo
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Nov 29, 2023 16:02
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Probably Magic posted:Don't think Penix goes to Day Two, unless I'm missing something. Old + injury history + hasn’t played as well in the second half of the year. Also depends on how many teams need QBs I guess.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:04
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J.J. McCarthy in the first round holy cannoli lmao
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Nov 29, 2023 16:12
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FizFashizzle posted:Mock drafts should include the 33rd pick imo Actually this one did, heh. Carolina Panthers: Jordan Morgan, OT/G, Arizona Cleveland Browns: Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State (no idea why the Browns's Round 2 pick was included, too)
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Nov 29, 2023 16:13
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fsif posted:(no idea why the Browns's Round 2 pick was included, too) They're still missing their first pick from the Watson trade.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:19
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Black Sunshine posted:All I know is that whoever the Raiders draft in the first round is almost guaranteed to be a bust! Don't worry the Patriots will reach and take some small school DB nobody's ever heard of in the second or third round. Also RIP to any WR 's career that gets drafted by the Pats.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:01
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Nov 29, 2023 17:05
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Mock drafts should be jettisoned into space especially any that come out more than a week away from the draft
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Nov 29, 2023 17:08
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Doltos posted:Mock drafts should be jettisoned into space especially any that come out more than a week away from the draft They're fun and a neat rubric for non-college watchers to familiarize themselves with prospects.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:12
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 at mocking JJ McCarthy to the Seahawks, good grief
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fsif posted:They're fun and a neat rubric for non-college watchers to familiarize themselves with prospects. I feel like they mislead non-college watchers more than help them. They also create weird confidence vacuums where people who saw an initial mock draft will base all their opinion on the prospect from that moment. They'd be okay if they created conversation about the prospect but most often they just induce How did they rank X player in Y position??? posts.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:18
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fsif posted:They're fun and a neat rubric for non-college watchers to familiarize themselves with prospects. Sure, but IMO at least wait until the Senior Bowl. For context, here's what Brugler posted for his 1.0 mock around this time last year for the '23 draft: quote:1. Houston Texans: Bryce Young, QB, Alabama* That's actually reasonably accurate (placement-wise, not team-wise) just quickly eyeballing it. I think about 2/3rds of these were actually drafted in the first.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:20
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Yea mocks suck with the caveat that Dane knows his stuff
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Nov 29, 2023 17:22
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SKULL.GIF posted:Sure, but IMO at least wait until the Senior Bowl. I would once again like to thank the Chicago Bears, Houston Texans, Arizona Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, Las Vegas Raiders and Atlanta Falcons for collectively deciding that the Eagles deserved Jalen Carter more than they did. Their sacrifice is appreciated.
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Nov 29, 2023 18:43
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Black Lighter posted:I would once again like to thank the Chicago Bears, Houston Texans, Arizona Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, Las Vegas Raiders and Atlanta Falcons for collectively deciding that the Eagles deserved Jalen Carter more than they did. Their sacrifice is appreciated. Four sacks, two forced fumbles, 6 tackles for loss, 7 qb hits, in 10 games. He’s so good. Detroit especially feels like such a miss. Their entire season trajectory is different if they drafted Carter.
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Nov 29, 2023 19:53
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Dane rules and the Beast is amazing. Sadly we’ve gotta take what we can get until then 😞
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Nov 29, 2023 20:03
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Black Lighter posted:I would once again like to thank the Chicago Bears, Houston Texans, Arizona Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, Las Vegas Raiders and Atlanta Falcons for collectively deciding that the Eagles deserved Jalen Carter more than they did. Their sacrifice is appreciated. Carter is great but Will Anderson Jr. is fantastic. The Texans bet big last draft, but they ended up cashing in big time. It gave me way more respect for Nick Caserio. He called his shot and got it right.
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Nov 29, 2023 20:16
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I hope Ray Davis gets a shot with a team - he seems like a great leader and a good toolsy back. Was very glad to have him for his final season at UK.
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Nov 29, 2023 21:07
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Doltos posted:I feel like they mislead non-college watchers more than help them. They also create weird confidence vacuums where people who saw an initial mock draft will base all their opinion on the prospect from that moment. It helps me watch college games and know who to watch more closely. I like to see if I can see what the mock draft dudes see and if i don't.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Detroit especially feels like such a miss. Their entire season trajectory is different if they drafted Carter. They more or less traded Carter for Gibbs and LaPorta, which isn't nothing.
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Nov 29, 2023 21:47
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Could I possibly steer you guys towards top 10 rankings instead? You get all of the info with none of the clickbait.
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tinstaach posted:They more or less traded Carter for Gibbs and LaPorta, which isn't nothing. It’s not nothing but boy could that defense use a guy like Carter who can get interior pressure. They’re bottom of the league in sacks and the CBs all being dead means QBs can feast if they’re kept clean.
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Nov 29, 2023 21:53
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Doltos posted:Could I possibly steer you guys towards top 10 rankings instead? You get all of the info with none of the clickbait. I only started watching college more and more this year, so it's sometimes handy to chuck on a game and have a reason to follow it more closely. I don't care how I get the list of players, I just want the list.
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Nov 29, 2023 21:57
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Yeah, not sure who gets hurt by early speculative mock drafts.
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Nov 29, 2023 23:30
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I do? I hate the clickbait.
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Nov 29, 2023 23:32
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Amy Pole Her posted:Dane rules and the Beast is amazing. Sadly we’ve gotta take what we can get until then 😞 He had Bryce better than Stroud. Entire legitimacy destroyed. Do not trust his lies.
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Nov 29, 2023 23:38
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Sometimes you can puff your chest. Sometimes you rank Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. https://twitter.com/ustadium/status/1729575145000362203?s=46&t=DcBXErlGIUJUj8quAgYfkQ
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Diva Cupcake posted:Sometimes you can puff your chest. Sometimes you rank Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. Goes to show how utterly desperate some teams are for a QB that everyone knew 2022 was a terrible draft for the position and yet it still produced three (terrible-to-mediocre) starters
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mock drafts are one of the only good things about football
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The Bears should take two QBs in the first round just so they don't mess it up
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Harlock posted:The Bears should take two QBs in the first round just so they don't mess it up They'll ruin them both.
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Harlock posted:The Bears should take two QBs in the first round just so they don't mess it up The dragonfly formation is the only way to make the Chicago passing game work.
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Forrest on Fire posted:The dragonfly formation is the only way to make the Chicago passing game work. the bears should just draft the navy quarterback every year and run the triple
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R.D. Mangles posted:the bears should just draft the navy quarterback every year and run the triple Bobby Douglass was the only true Bears QB
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Black Lighter posted:Goes to show how utterly desperate some teams are for a QB that everyone knew 2022 was a terrible draft for the position and yet it still produced three (terrible-to-mediocre) starters Considering Sam Howell is in his first real season as a starter he's been pretty decent.
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