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The Puppy Bowl posted:Say your team is picking in between 26-32, what would it take to move up to pick 3 to get Marvin Harrison Jr.? Julio Jones trade was a 1st 2nd and 4th, plus the following year's 1st and 4th. By JJ value it looks more like 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and a 4th. You'd be better off trading to like #10 for much less and draft Keon Coleman.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2023 21:09 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 08:01 |
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Nice nugget write up. Johnny Wilson is frustrating because he does that Mike Evans thing where he'll drop easy ones on occasion but makes insane catches. I could see Odunze being WR2 as well.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2023 18:47 |
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Probably Magic posted:Don't think Penix goes to Day Two, unless I'm missing something. Most of the mocks I've seen have him in the second round.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2023 16:01 |
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Daniels was starting as a true freshman at ASU and then only got 4 games the next because of COVID season. Not many true freshman QBs look good.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2023 01:12 |
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Doltos posted:I personally think age doesn't matter at all since every position but kicker and QB has a short shelf life on average. People are too used to madden drafting where you take a 21 year old kid with A+ potential and he's a 99 overall by the time he's 22 while the stats never drop til he's 30. In real life even if that guy existed he'd probably leave in free agency from your small market team. The most unrealistic part of this post is thinking market size matters in the NFL.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2023 19:28 |
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BlindSite posted:I think there's like four famous sons coming out this year - Kris Jenkins son, jeremiah Trotter jnr, Marvin Harrison jnr and I forget the 4th. Lassiter out of Georgia?
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2023 23:33 |
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indigi posted:Cooper DeJean is white so it's illegal for him to be a cornerback How quickly we forget Jason Sehorn. Oh wait that was 20 years ago...
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 04:29 |
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Johnny Wilson is probably a second round guy. He drops a lot of easy catches. I love him tho, he makes some insane catches.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2023 04:15 |
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If you're picking in the top 10 and draft a TE you should fire your GM.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2023 05:59 |
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Doltos posted:Nabers runs wherever he wants to and then sons the people trying to tackle him it's a very pure, chaotic way to play football Was Ceedee Lamb kinda like that at Oklahoma or am I remembering wrong? Maybe it was Rondale Moore.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2023 20:52 |
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Doltos posted:Foles was underrated coming out. He had an insanely great deep ball it just hung in the air too much so people were afraid he had no arm strength. I think that pass interference call later in the game last night is probably the perfect example of this for Penix. The ball came out like a rocket but was under thrown and hung up for a bit.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2024 18:30 |
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Caleb and Jayden are worth taking in the top 5. Let's go further. Jayden QB1!
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2024 15:26 |
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I'd still take Penix at the bottom half of the first. He's a hell of a lot better than Kenny Pickett.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 05:55 |
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a neat cape posted:Penix is going top 15. Nah, he needs to fall a bit so he can go back home.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 05:59 |
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Benne posted:But the Colts just drafted a QB Penix is from Tampa.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 06:05 |
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a neat cape posted:Bo Nix in pewter I'd rather stick with Baker.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 06:07 |
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Benne posted:It's just kinda silly to make any hard predictions before the Combine, when teams get the medicals that will tell the real story on Penix's trajectory. I think this is the correct take on him because his injury history is brutal.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 06:11 |
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WR1 https://twitter.com/keithpricetrut1/status/1745311910592163936?t=XnwaZ8AV0Wrj3izCfQEUVA&s=19
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2024 16:24 |
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Rogue0071 posted:What would the contract implications be if he was in the supplemental draft? I assume it would be a lot less money than being a #1 pick. It's exactly the same. The team just forfeits that draft pick the following year. So if you take a player in the first round you lose your first rounder the following year.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2024 23:22 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:Isn’t pay slotting equivalent to the average of the round they’re taken in? He’d still lose money over going #1 overall. I'm pretty sure it's slot based. Josh Gordon got the same as his second round slot.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2024 00:00 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Next years QB class is kinda rear end. lol we're already calling this before the season is even played?
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2024 00:57 |
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Daniels, Penix, and Nix were all not expected to be 1st or 2nd round guys who all greatly improved their stock during the season. It happens. Sam Howell was once a sure fire 1st rounder and look how that ended. Dumb to project anything at this point about something over a year away.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2024 01:37 |
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I said it with Pitts, I'll say it with Bowers, never draft a TE in the top 10. If you're picking that high you have WAY bigger issues to deal with.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2024 15:00 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Trey Benson. Jonathon Brooks would’ve been RB1 but he tore his ACL Have you seen Trey Benson's injury history? I love Trey but I'd be concerned taking him too high.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2024 15:01 |
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Doltos posted:All positions bust at a high rate, draft good players high Gronk and Kelce also benefit from having 2 of the best QBs every to play. Maybe Pitts just needs a hall of fame QB to matter. TE is not a premium position you spend high draft capital on. Hell, Gronk and Kelce weren't even first rounders.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2024 00:24 |
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Yes, I would take a guaranteed hall of fame player in the top 10. The problem is, nothing is guaranteed. I'd rather swing for a WR or QB or CB or OT or Pass rusher waaaay before id swing for a TE. Sure be cool if we had a top 5 hall of fame TE for this discussion instead of using mid round picks.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2024 00:44 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:i feel like the main reason not to draft a TE in the top 10 is bc largely it's an undervalued position in the draft so by taking a TE that high you're potentially out of the running for a lot of the best O-lineman, Receivers, QBs, and DEs who are perhaps over-valued positions in the draft. But you might miss out on the next Gronk or Kelce (not even first rounders)....or end up with the next Kyle Brady or Ricky Dudley (top 10 picks). How many WR or OT or QB or DE or CB would you take over George Kittle? 50? 60 guys? Maybe more? The best TE in the NFL isn't even worth the 10th best WR in the league.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2024 07:10 |
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Gotta be a troll but Terrace Marshall does suck.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 03:27 |
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I have a hard time believing the Chargers draft a WR in the first round two years in a row. They even drafted another in the 4th last year. That's a lot of draft capital into one position over two years.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 18:50 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:They need it. I lost my faith watching Johnston. Keenan Allen can't keep doing this forever. I'm not saying they don't, but I just don't think they will. Mike Williams will be back next year too unless he's cut for cap reasons.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 18:52 |
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Ornery and Hornery posted:
I have no idea. The draft board is going to change a lot between now and the draft. All I'm saying is I don't think they'll draft another WR in the first, having done so last year.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 19:08 |
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Kalli posted:I mean teams do that with QB's now. it's fine to admit a mistake and not sink good Herbert years after bad. What teams have drafted first round QBs back to back? The Cardinals and I can't think of another. I'm not saying they shouldn't draft Nabors, if he's BPA by a large margin on their board, go for it. I just don't think they will still having a combination of Allen/QJ/Williams. They could save a lot of money replacing Williams and Allen with Nabors tho but I can't see them moving on from Allen yet.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 19:15 |
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a neat cape posted:I'm like 99% sure Williams is gone. Matt Millen was also a terrible GM and it helped get his rear end fired. I had Palmer in my previous post but I read his contract wrong and thought he was an UFA. He's a solid target.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 19:18 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:A quick lil 1-2 mock draft. Jaheim Bell would loving own with Herbie.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2024 19:32 |
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https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1749086720497189051?t=WrI1KN7E4rICb-AzllJWYw&s=19
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2024 17:41 |
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Top 2 has been consistent for this draft since forever. I'm putting Daniels above Maye.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2024 19:23 |
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Kalli posted:OTC is usually pretty close on this, their comp pick projections: I know these are determined by contracts but lol at Jimmy G getting a 3rd and Baker only a 5th.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2024 18:15 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:I know this isn't the free agent thread, but what do we think Antoine Winfield Jr. will get in the free market? The Packers need a definitive answer at safety, and I would much rather have him than Micah Hyde or any other option. He's not leaving Tampa. They'll sign him or tag him. I've read he might get close to if not $20m per season.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2024 18:29 |
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Quoting the hottest take we’ll have all thread. “Caleb Williams not worth a first round pick” I'm sure he would also take Mac Jones #1 overall.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2024 18:42 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 08:01 |
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Fat Jesus posted:Seems an average of 4 WR's are taken in the 1st round going from the past 6 seasons so either Troy Franklin or Brian Thomas jr should go to the chiefs. I hope. I think Thomas will be long gone. Franklin might make it.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2024 00:05 |