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banned from Starbucks posted:What are these free thrid places that no longer exist because I don't really remember having any growing up in the 90s either. The "free" option was go to the mall and look at stuff you couldn't afford. Everything cost money back then too. Been to a mall lately? The ones here, even in the middle class suburbs, have explicit no loitering policy and don't allow teenagers to be around without parents. When I look back at my own teenage days, the poo poo we did just doesn't exist anymore. Movie theaters are mostly gone, and the ones that still exist open in the late afternoon and want $12-15 a ticket. Can't hang out at arcades, as those don't exist anymore. Can't hang out at the mall, as they have the above policies. Can't hang out in a city park without the cops showing up to give them the stink eye. School grounds are all fenced and monitored now, so can't even hang around there. The last real 'third space' is the public library, and it's underfunded to hell so it's got little to interest them. Main Paineframe posted:"Only" got 7 years in jail? For a 14-year-old, that's half their lives up to that point. Moreover, it's a particularly important 7 years in their education and socialization. They're spending their entire teenage years in prison, and getting out at age 21 with no money, no skills, no way to make a living, and no social connections aside from their families, their middle school classmates, and their fellow inmates. They'll be thoroughly unprepared for living on their own, and while most of their age group was learning how to live independently and make independent life decisions, they spent those years in the highly regimented prison life. Educationally, they'll have a prison GED and probably not much more. Not to mention a felony on their record that means they'll probably never get a better job than line cook, since the last industry that really hires ex-cons is food service. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Nov 28, 2023 |
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From a purely pragmatic standpoint, rehabilitation is less expensive anyway. It is not cheap to keep someone locked up, having them instead be a tax paying citizen is good financially for society.
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Nov 28, 2023 07:56
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Prison sentences aren't deterrents anyway. Even the DoJ is up front about it: quote:1. The certainty of being caught is a vastly more powerful Their opinion is that custodial sentences primarily make prisoners incapable of committing similar crimes while in prison, but do not generally have any provable effect on recidivism, although prison experiences do exacerbate it.
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