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Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Bellmaker posted:

There's gonna be some weird poo poo for MVP this year like Russell Wilson winning it after taking the AFC West. If they win tomorrow the Broncos could legitimately win out.

vCLE
@HOU
@LAC
@DET
vNE
vLAC
@LV

Lmao they’re absolutely not winning out cmon dude. Even 2 more wins though is a great season all things considered

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Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Parallax posted:

not that Tyreek hasn't been good but a lot of that was earlier in the season and you could probably argue aj brown is just as good

Reeks got about 20 more receptions, 300 more yds, and 4 more TDs so it’s not a great argument right now. Give it a few more weeks though

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Bellmaker posted:

Anyone want to change their mind on the Broncos now

Lmao no. I think Payton’s a good coach but ya’ll aren’t winning out. Don’t be delusional .


Will happily join in on the Denver area donation toxx on this one.

Relentlessboredomm fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Nov 27, 2023

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

OneMoreTime posted:

The Bears aren’t a real team and tonight’s win didn’t change my mind

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Kawalimus posted:

It seems like a ton of the logic of prevent defense is dated. In todays game huge chunk plays are normal instead of teams only taking short yardage plays. So yeah you prevent them from scoring on one play but scoring in 1:20 or so is almost just as bad.

It seems worse than that, for instance

Your team is on defense with ~2mins or left in the game holding a 1 score lead. Here are the possibilities:

- The opposing offense drives and scores while using up the remaining time, you lose
- The opposing offense drives and either sputters out or turns it over, you win
- The opposing offense drives and scores quickly, you still have a shot
- The opposing offense is stopped immediately, barring some weirdness with Timeouts you win


It feels like prevent defense is gambling between the 1st and 2nd option when with a super aggressive blitz heavy defense you’re more likely to give up a quick score or get a stop than you are to give up a long drive that eats all the clock. If anything you should blitz more on the final drive, force the issue quickly whether that’s a stop or a score bc at least with a quick score you still have a chance. Prevent defense is choosing to end the game with your defense on the field and zero chance to respond on offense.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

really queer Christmas posted:

Defensive guys love that poo poo. They get to be conservative and have their defense be the saviors. Plus, when they gently caress up, no one ever calls them on it because they did the safe thing. Whereas a heavy blitz call leading to a 70 yard touchdown has every sports journalist creaming their pants at the anticipation of asking why did they call that?

Lmao I never quite thought about it like that but yea, it’s literally the CYA move bc you won’t get ripped a new one by the press/fans. Thinking about conservative coaches as dudes just always picking the CYA option makes a lot of sense.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Mr. Nice! posted:

Fields better than Baker? :thunk:

Nah, they’re probably at a similar level. Inconsistent with some impressive highs and irritating lows, except Baker turns it over less and is more willing to truck fools. Plus Baker brings good vibes

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Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."
At this point i think they trade Fields bc regardless of coaching staff if you get a new rookie QB you'll be able to argue that you should get 2 years to develop him. Basically its in the GM's and coaches best interests to start on a new QB if they want to stick around

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