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Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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TheLastRoboKy posted:

I'm sorry she has a knife now.

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Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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https://twitter.com/Starbind_S/status/1763926947736756541

Had to post this glorious shitpost.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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I mean, if the hilt wasn't a tipoff, the fact that Saber's noble phantasm involves summoning a giant eight headed energy snake from it would certainly be. I can really only think of a single sword in Japanese history who's legend revolves around The Goddamn Orochi.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Caster tends to be the most wildly varied class because it basically can be summed up as 'This person's big thing is being Intellectual', so in addition to your classic magic users, you also have Poets, Artists, Musicians, Scientists, and Inventors counted amongst them, unless for whatever reason they also qualify for another class for whatever reason (Such as Nikola Tesla being an Archer because gently caress it, Imma shoot lightning at people).

Similarly, Riders as a class also tends to include a lot of Leaders of Men type character, even if they aren't strongly associated with having a mount. For example, Queen Medb of Celtic mythology is a Rider class Servant, and the flimsy justification they give for why is that she Rides Men.

And yes, In That Way.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Hey, Aria just wants uppies

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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The real question is: Are you going to tell Doomguy that he can't be X Class?

I thought not.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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The biggest thing preventing a Servant and Master pairing from simply going 'Arite I'm gone' and ditching a grail war is that Servants are dependent on the Holy Grail/Waxing Moon/Insert Substitute Here for Mana, since very few mages in the modern day (or even back when Mana was more plentiful) have the ability to sustain their servants just on what they can personally provide.

That said, it is possible in (most) Grail Wars to withdraw, which usually involves the Master seeking asylum with whatever organization is running the war. They give up their Command Seals to the organizer, and their Servant is kept around until a new Master can contract with them, while the old Master basically sits around waiting for the war to end under the protection of the organizers... which they very much need.

See, once you've been selected as a Master Candidate, even if you lose your servant in battle or give them up to drop out, there always exists the chance that a Servant without a Master might seek you out and form a new contract with you. So most opposing Masters will try to murder you dead regardless just to be on the safe side, because better to Commit Coldblooded Murder than to risk having a Servant you thought you defeated being given a life line.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Rody One Half posted:

Doing catchup:

Another funny thing about Casters is that, being usually better mages (or having similar abilities at least) than either the Master participants or even the organizers of whatever grail war is being fought, they're more often viewed as nuisances who are just going to cheat or break the contest than legitimate contestants.

I mean, Mages who are Masters cheat all the god drat time to get an edge in Grail Wars, usually with catastrophic results for everyone involved, especially said Mage, so it makes sense that Casters will also cheat whenever and however they can to get an edge.

And boy, do Casters (usually) need that edge, both because Casters are not all that good in a straight up fight (squishy mage syndrome) and because the three 'Knight' classes (Saber, Lancer, Archer) come with some level of Magic Resistance that allow them to no sell smaller spells and fight against heftier ones. Some Servants in particular have Magic Resistance so high they can delay or fight off the effects of a Command Spell if they really put their mind to it.

Especially someone like Gilgamesh, who would probably react to a Master trying to force him to do something via Command Spell by going 'lolno' and then rendering said Master's head a fine red mist.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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GiantRockFromSpace posted:

There's in background lore what's called Subspecies Grail Wars in some Fate timelines which are minor versions of the ritual where like, not all 7 Servants classes are summonned or the reward is just mana and not a wish or every Master has 2 Servants (and also it's a livestream), etc. The Waxing Moon Ritual can kinda be slotted into that as well.

I believe in Red's introduction episode, our Magical Grandfather Book actually described the Waxing Moon Ritual as just such one Subspecies Holy Grail War.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Damnit Holmes, for the last time, Void Dust is not Grape-Flavored Cocaine! I need that poo poo for magical crafting materials!

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Dr. Snark posted:

-The team is sent to investigate a singularity based around cheesy horror movies, causing one of their members to repeatedly die in the usual gratuitous ways (she gets better). The cause of this is eventually revealed to be one of the biggest simps in the history of the human race.

This particular event has one of my favorite moments in it, in which two Servants (Sigurd and Brynhildr specifically) sneak off to have sex, and when you discover them, Sigurd is absolutely maimed to hell and back. Initially everyone thinks its the classic 'Horror monster picks off the loving couple when they slip off to be by themselves' trope...

But nope.

They really did just have sex, and because Brynhildr is cursed by Odin to kill the one she loves, it got wild and kinky and INCREDIBLY BLOODY and Sigurd is 110% into that poo poo. Oh, and he somehow lived through the experience.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Coolguye posted:

boy the classes really are just kind of "whatever there's no rules here" huh

It really is. There's no better example of this than Nero.

Yes, that Nero. And yes, she is a girl. And she managed to basically force her way into the Saber-class because she has a skill called Imperial Privilege, which can be summed up as 'gently caress you, as Emperor I declare that I am a totally awesome swordfighter, and the Emperor's Word is Law, therefor I am.'

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Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

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Heroes from Greek Mythology or famous heroes such as the Knights of the Round Table are also popular because of a phenomenon known as Fame Boosts.

In essence, the more famous a given hero is, the more that fame will buff up their abilities. In addition, the closer you are to their lands of origin, the greater this effect is. Heroes like King Arthur or Achilles are so famous that they get this boost in some form no matter where they are, but if they were to participate in a Grail War in Greece or Britain, they would be far more swole and dominant just by virtue of Home Field Advantage.

This in fact comes up in one of the various animes where the war is taking place in Romania, and one of the Servants is none other than our good boy Vlad III, who gets a power boost so big that it lets him fight against Karna of the Mahabharata on equal footing.

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