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MononcQc posted:I'll refer here again to my prior point in this very post about the issue being one of encoding and decoding, and therefore of building the common ground for these to align better. The issue we're going to run into sooner or later are whether the context includes values and upbringing (it most likely does), and therefore whether part of accurate-enough encoding and decoding of words for meaning has the ability to include this construction of the self into its definition. If so, you will have a hard time drawing a clear-cut boundary between "the word choice was bad" and "the idea behind the word choice was a consequence of past experience" and bringing clarification may necessarily involve re-examining people's own stances. nope this is just word games. the point is that people have different, fundamental interests that sometimes conflict in irreconcilable ways. in those situations you can’t really “agree” because what’s good for you is not good for me
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fart simpson posted:nope this is just word games. the point is that people have different, fundamental interests that sometimes conflict in irreconcilable ways. in those situations you can’t really “agree” because what’s good for you is not good for me when you post it it’s not good for me
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fart simpson posted:nope this is just word games. the point is that people have different, fundamental interests that sometimes conflict in irreconcilable ways. in those situations you can’t really “agree” because what’s good for you is not good for me right, agreement between person P and person Q on some matter X:
terms and conditions apply but I think this not a terrible nor overly labored elaboration of fart simpson’s point. and his statement explains a fundamental (radical? should I say?) cause of many thorny disagreements
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echinopsis posted:what right, agreement between person P and person Q on some matter X: goes from (in principle) easy to (in practice) impossible depending on how compatible or incompatible P and Q’s interests and values are and whether X is anodyne or controversial given the interests and values (whether compatible or contradictory in whole or part) of P and Q terms and conditions apply but I think this not a terrible nor overly labored elaboration of fart simpson’s point. and his statement explains a fundamental (radical? should I say?) cause of many thorny disagreements
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many horny disagreements huh
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in a well actually posted:there’s a meme about American idioms vs English vs Germans (iirc?) that lays out the various levels of enthusiasm where “that’s okay” is earth shattering endorsement from one but extremely negative from the other sometimes my wife will ask me if i want to do something, and i'll say "sure" instead of "yes", and somehow she takes that to mean "emphatically no"
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you need more passion in your voice
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Roosevelt posted:sometimes my wife will ask me if i want to do something, and i'll say "sure" instead of "yes", and somehow she takes that to mean "emphatically no" my husband does this too, and gets frustrated whenever i just say "sure" to something. i'm glad i'm not alone!!
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How does "sure" turn into "emphatically no?" Are they interpreting it as a sarcastic dismissal? Were they raised in a really toxic household where people talked like that all the time?
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when I moved to the US from the UK it took me some time to realize why, when someone asked me how I am and I gave a (British) typical answer of "ok" or "alright" or similar, they appeared to think I was suicidal or something. seems nothing less than disingenuous enthusiasm is expected
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sometimes sure comes across as “I don’t really want to but sure I guess we can”
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echinopsis posted:sometimes sure comes across as “I don’t really want to but sure I guess we can” i guess it's this. i probably say "sure" more often when she asks me things like if i can take out the trash, or go to work, or put pants on
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yeah, that's how he takes it. and generally for me, "sure" just means, "well it's not something i'm genuinely super stoked about, but it sounds pleasant enough  "
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Dec 10, 2023 01:46
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say “sure thing boss” instead
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A gigabyte is 1024^3 bytes and its not up to hard drive manufacturers to make up new units. The IEC can suck my dick because I don't give a poo poo about the metric system prefixes.
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quote:US lawsuits This is some "ketchup is a vegetable" poo poo. It's 1024^bytes.
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Salt Fish posted:A gigabyte is 1024^3 bytes and its not up to hard drive manufacturers to make up new units. gotta agree
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old fossils still resisting the all-consuming embrace of the metric system itt
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for all intensive purposes,
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:old fossils still resisting the all-consuming embrace of the metric system itt an inch is defined as 25.4 mm 
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Salt Fish posted:This is some "ketchup is a vegetable" poo poo. It's 1024^bytes. what’s the deal with mebibytes and also wtf is with data connections being expressed as bits rather than bytes? does bits mean raw throughout including parity or redundancy etc whereas bytes means fully received completed bytes?? or is it simple one is a number 8 times as big as another and more importantly than any of these when did we drop the nybble
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and why isn’t it byt
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The binary byte units and their abbreviations (mebibyte, gibibyte, etc and MiB GiB etc) are a principled way to say “I know some people measure bytes the wrong way, but not me.”
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The principled thing is to say megabyte and mean 1024 kilobytes, but you never clarify it or explain it because that's what it means.
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from first principles , a mega unit means a million of and so a mega byte is a million bytes but mfs here arguing that we should let some sands inability to grasp the decimal system define our definition of mega for its snowflake case
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bytes are an archaic concept anyway. we don't use 8-bit computers anymore so there's no particular reason to group data that way. everything should just be measured in bits.
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echinopsis posted:what’s the deal with mebibytes and what's the deal with bauds anyways?
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Sagebrush posted:bytes are an archaic concept anyway. we don't use 8-bit computers anymore so there's no particular reason to group data that way. everything should just be measured in bits. it's usually the smallest directly addressable unit, so it kinda makes sense
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one thing that forever does my head in about SI units is that for example the default unit of volume is a litre the default unit of a distance is a metre and so on except the default unit of weight is a kilogram, not a gram when we’re doing drug calculations regarding concentrations you need to specify if say 1% means volume in volume or weight in volume and if it’s weight in volume then 1% means 10mg/mL and 100% (if it was possible) would mean 1g/mL (or 1kg/L) we were doing experimental calcs the other day and the other pharmacists can do ordinary calcs like how many total mg in 5mL of 0.5% solution but we had to do some to work out how much chlorine to put in a pool and usually they rely on some tricks to do their calcs rather than work it out from first principles and they couldn’t do this calc and when I was trying to explain how to work it out it was just utterly lost on them that a kilo unit of weight is equivalent to a non-kilo unit of volume for the purposes of concentration calculations
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well if you changed the default unit to be the gram then you'd also have to change the default volume unit to the millilitre. it's just hosed.
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Just because you put the letters M-E-G-A into a word doesn't mean its an SI prefix. For example, the megazord is not built out of 1 million other zords.
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Sagebrush posted:well if you changed the default unit to be the gram then you'd also have to change the default volume unit to the millilitre. why I mean we can’t go back in time and so we’re stuck with what we’ve got but if they’d have thought ahead for two seconds they might have made a gram the equivalent of a litre of water
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Salt Fish posted:Just because you put the letters M-E-G-A into a word doesn't mean its an SI prefix. For example, the megazord is not built out of 1 million other zords. yes it is that’s what mega means
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echinopsis posted:when we’re doing drug calculations regarding concentrations you need to specify if say 1% means volume in volume or weight in volume and if it’s weight in volume then 1% means 10mg/mL and 100% (if it was possible) would mean 1g/mL (or 1kg/L) the weight in volume thing is weird. normally if you're dealing with ratios the units should cancel out (like they do for the volume example). but now you've got two different units. in physics that's usually a sign you hosed up or whatever you're doing doesn't make sense must be something a pharmacist came up with while high on their own supply
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i am reminded of how marie curie was upset that the original value of the Curie, the unit for radioactive emission, would be defined by the radiation emitted by a infinitesimally small amount of radium (radium being extraordinarily radioactive). so she insisted that it be the amount of radiation emitted by one gram of radium instead, an extremely dangerous quantity, and because she was so famous they agreed. so we now commonly speak of fractions of microcuries, and if you ever see a whole Curie you're probably going to die
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echinopsis posted:yes it is that’s what mega means The mega millions jackpot is not one million millions.
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when mega is not referring to one million, it refers to four (unreal tournament, 2004, "mega kill").
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