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SRQ posted:No but I feel it's become somewhat lost to history. It's probably because Mulder & Scully arrested pedophiles rather than building a utopian society for them. Trekkies can't get on board with that. Shaman Tank Spec posted:
There are good ones in there, but a high miss ratio. Same as the last couple of seasons in that regard. Anyway, the show is so fundamentally about the 90s, they should leave it be, or any reboot/remake should be a period piece. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 07:33 |
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Pretty sure they just got recommended to me on Spotify.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 20:18 |
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Vakal posted:I'd be hard pressed to think of a sillier episode of the X-Files than the one about the house haunted by the spirit of the Brady Bunch house featuring David Faustino. That episode is great, though. It's the penultimate episode of the initial run and they basically make the whole story about letting some poo poo go and the dangers of getting hung up on some bullshit forever.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2023 20:21 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:He manages to make his male pattern baldness sexy and powerful. I don't know how he does it, but god drat he looks good with it. He's loving ripped. He's fantasing about your friends dad when he's mowing and then he takes his shirt off and he has arms like pythons and a stabbing scar from college. I honestly think part of the reasons it's endured is that even though the last couple of seasons suffer from the chemistry between the leads not being there (and for the record I like Doggett, Reyes not so much), it wasn't really in the zeitgeist so much, so people remember the good stuff. I'll go to bat for episodes like Sunshine Days being all-timers, but the super soldier plot was boring and nonsense, even if it did mean we got some Lucy Lawless in the show. It ended exactly when it needed to (9/11 would have sent the show into a crisis) and they haven't been too greedy with revivals. I know it ended in 2002, but accounting for writing/production lag. If the show actually accounted for the massive shift in the cultural landscape around that time, I think it could have soured badly. Post show, we got the okay movie where Billy Connolly was a peado priest, and two, short mini series that were disappointing but still had a couple of good new episodes. It could be because Duchovny and Anderson have done well for themselves, but are central to the shows appeal and are happy to leave the characters largely behind, so there hasn't been a chance to absolutely run it into the ground. There are elements that are creaky on rewatches, like sexual assault being weirdly trivialised a bunch (Small Potatoes & The Post Modern Prometheus are great episodes that come to mind, but they really do go that well a couple of times) and the show REALLY liked that "wow, native Americans are literally magic" kind of goofy liberalism in the earlier seasons, but that wasn't unique for a show from the early-mid 90s. However, it's overall pretty wholesome for a show about government conspiracies in a way I can't imagine now. I've often wondered if The X-Files had a hand in the popularisation of conspiratorial thinking in recent years and I really can't draw that link too strongly, thankfully. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:What is that picture of him in armor from First Person Shooter, an episode written by William Gibson of all people (I actually really like the earlier William Gibson episode with the cybergoth who lives in a container and dead guy stuck in the internet and poo poo). The second Gibson penned episode is shockingly bad and not even as entertaining as screengrabs from it.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2023 08:25 |
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nice obelisk idiot posted:on topic: just like everyone else who saw it as a kid i wish that i didn't see the flukeman episode. I was intermittently scared of the bathroom for ages and would sometimes have fleeting intrusive thoughts along the lines of the stuff in the episode well into adulthood "Scully, its me. What do you know about the Skibidi Toilet?"
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2023 14:30 |
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eSports Chaebol posted:nowadays Mulder would be like "The government is watching all of us!" and Scully would be like "Yeah, we know, Mulder. Everybody knows. Nobody cares." and then Mulder would just look sad and disappointed Modern Mulder would be a man crippled by internet porn, YouTube iceberg videos and wider acceptance and knowledge of autism.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2023 16:25 |
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Hyrax Attack! posted:If you like guest stars before they made it big, 80s Twilight Zone is a goldmine. Frances McDormand, Morgan Freeman, Helen Mirren… the hits keep coming. Plus so many pre-Star Trek actors show up like Frakes & Tim Russ, plus a rare non-Trek Brent Spiner. Helen Mirren was already star of a million teenage nerd imaginations after Excalibur.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2023 19:41 |
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20 Blunts posted:im slightly gay for david duchovny for sure, but what an interesting career. always in bad movies with good casts and/or directors, it seems. just half-assing it with the best of em' on movies they knew would suck a little bit He toured with his band lately and seems to be having a good time, but lol at the idea anyone would give a poo poo if he wasn't also doing meet and greet tickets.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2023 23:00 |
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The Finn posted:https://www.cbr.com/x-files-reboot-ryan-coogler-update/ What a terrible loving idea!
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2023 13:26 |
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JediTalentAgent posted:"Listen, we're really desperate here... Can we tie X-Files into the MCU and have them discover the existence of mutants?" Can't wait for the show to revolve around the whereabouts of Mulder or whatever in the lead-up to a 7 part spin-off series. I'm not opposed to Disney+ or whatever, but I don't subscribe anymore because I can only watch Gravity Falls (any X-Files fans, especially those with older pre-teens, should see that if they havent) and classic Simpsons so much, and the panning/scanning on X-Files episodes irritated me. I just think X-Files is such a show of and about its time, that I can't see a remake working well. There's been societal sea-changes that mean that the options are a tone-deaf straight reboot, or a totally different show. And if we're seeing new agents, good loving luck finding the chemistry of Mulder and Scully! Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Dec 19, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 19, 2023 15:45 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Yeah they basically flip the dynamic around whenever there's a religious episode. Mulder becomes the skeptic and Scully is totally ready to believe that the devil is here or an angel or whatever crazy poo poo. Aliens though? Scully ain't down for that. I remember my dad dropping off the show because he got irritated at Scully's skepticism, but it always gets characterised as "there's no such thing as werewolf aliens" when she's much more "look, let's explore the more likely avenues than werewolf aliens, like a hosed up guy with a disease maybe" while Mulder is like "GOD?! LMAO gently caress you, Scully!"
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2023 17:47 |
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Ginette Reno posted:I think the reason that Scully's skepticism can get irritating for some people is that Mulder's lunatic hunches end up correct 99% of the time. So after a while of this people end up going like wtf Scully how many times does Mulder need to be right before you give him some slack with his insane theories? That's true, but it feels the formula is often more: 1) Mulder attributes a spree of crimes to something he read about in Fortean Times 2) Scully counters that it's probably just a hosed up guy. 3) It's actually a hosed up guy, but he has suckers on his hands like a mountain chupacabra or w/e 4) the shoot him to death and he falls into a Woodchipper 5) Scully cracks open wordperfect and starts her report "Since the dawn of time, man has been terrified and fascinated by woodchippers. In this essay, I will..."
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2023 19:10 |
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Enfys posted:I'll never try to reread them because it would almost certainly ruin my good memories of them, but I really loved the X-Files novels as a kid and devoured them in between waiting for new episodes There were a couple of X-Files teen novels released within the last few years, dealing with teen Mulder and Scully respectively. While they're probably not canon, The Mulder one was fun and covers the events that spark his interest in the FBI. There's no supernatural or cryptozoologica stuff in it though, just a (surprisingly grim for a YA book) normal hosed up guy. I should read the Scully one one slow evening.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2023 19:58 |
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Edit: double post redacted by deputy-director Walter Skinner
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2023 20:00 |
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redshirt posted:Drop the names of these novels, please. The mulder one is called X-Files: Agents of Chaos, and the Scully one Devils Advocate. I've only read the Mulder one, but like I said, breezy enough with probably enough there for a fan of the show.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2023 20:06 |
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It's weird that Vince Giligan doesn't seem to have been approached as the show-runner for the reboot. Of course, he might have said no, but I'd be interested if it was in his hands.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2023 22:59 |
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If I'm having a bad day I just think about that titty bigfoot Mulder drew
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2023 16:14 |
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redshirt posted:Can someone successfully and succinctily summarize the "Mythology" storyline? I think so. There was an intergalactic war going on that humans were kind of pawns in? And Earth was going to be colonised? Honestly, it's like a 6 year old describing a dream.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2023 00:32 |
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redshirt posted:Wow, yay my memory! I could be making stuff up, but I thought the bounty hunter was a shape-shifter and the eyeless guys were aliens of that phenotype or whatever? Honestly, the mytharc is confusing to me probably 50% because I filled in gaps and confused them for canon and 50% it's near indecipherable.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2023 02:19 |
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JediTalentAgent posted:I could have sworn that there was a rumor that Fox had wanted the show "The Visitor" to have had a tie-in with X-files or Millennium at one point. Probably! COPS kind of got a tie-in (and it was great!), Greener Grass had one planned and there was the Simpsons thing, not to mention a Not-Homer cameo in a later episode. That Munch cop from a bunch of shows cameos too. The saddest X-Files never-was is that Nigel Kneale (Quatermass, The Stone Tape) was approached to write an episode and its sad he refused with being such a key figure in the horror but actually it's proccedural sci-fi thing. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Dec 28, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 28, 2023 09:28 |
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Spazzle posted:Wasn't there an episode where people come from a future not controlled by aliens? Doesn't that imply that alien domination is not inevitable? Yeah, there's a time-travel episode, but it's pretty isolated and the implications (that an alien apocalypse is like 60 years away, if it all) aren't explored. A Fancy Hat posted:I guess because all of the bigwigs in the government have just resigned themselves to the deal and thought that something like this might raise too much suspicion. It works for me that there was never like, an X-Files X-Men, because most of the mutants and people with abilities they meet are loving psychos who live off of human livers or whatever. And yeah, they'd have a vested interest in the world not ending, presumably, but they're hardly reliable (in the cases where they survive and are captured and not outright killed or disappear mysteriously). It is interesting we didn't see much of people who are "monsters" trying to get on day to day - there was one later episode, maybe season 7, where there was a dude who was a gross mutant, but also was just some nervy dude who was doing his best as a fast-food manager.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2024 22:23 |
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Zesty posted:We love it every time Scully is asked the psychology questions instead of Mulder even though he was initially conceived and introduced to the show as a psychologist. They lost that almost immediately after season 1. That's true though - he was a trained and skilled profiler, but only his undergrad was in psychology.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2024 21:53 |
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A Fancy Hat posted:I had "Hungry Ghosts", which is the adaptation of Hell Money. That's a grisly episode - has a couple of live cremations too, if I remember correctly. It also feels weirdly like a backdoor pilot for a show about the Chinatown cop they assist, but that was never intentional to my knowledge. Oh! I picked up a box of Topps X-Files cards from 1997 for £20 before Christmas and put them in people's gifts as a little treat, gave some to a friend who had a VIP ticket for a David Duchovny live show with a meet and greet. My partner keeps a Scully card in their to get them through rough days. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jan 16, 2024 |
# ¿ Jan 16, 2024 16:57 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:I had The Tooms episode, i think I win this one. Yeah, I remember he turned out shady, but I didn't remember it being him who dies at the end.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2024 09:54 |
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Poohs Packin posted:This is the Chinese episode in Season 3. Season 4 really turns on the "ethnicity" episodes. These probably wouldn't fly in 2024 but looking back they are kind of quaint for trying. Kaddish might be the darkest (in terms of lighting) episode of the series? I remember it just being pitch black (and kind of slow).
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2024 10:57 |
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Poohs Packin posted:Watching s5e16 "Mind's Eye" about a blind woman with the ability to see through the eyes of a killer. The bit in the Smoking Man background episode where he's left underemployed after Gulf War I because all Americas enemies "are defeated now" is some peak end of history blinkered poo poo. The line is meant to be funny in a blackly comic episode that riffs on Forest Gump, but not funny in the way it reads now.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2024 13:04 |
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happyhippy posted:There was an episode of some AI being in some trailer with a zillion phone lines going into it. That was the good co-written William Gibson episode, before he wrote one of the worst episodes.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2024 14:38 |
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Pac and Cheese posted:i've been watching x files for the first time, my main takeaways are that it's one of the best comedies ever made, and that mark snow got paid more to aimlessly noodle around on a keyboard for a few years than you'll make in your entire life Hey, that's bullshit. He'd also crack out the pan pipes whenever a native American was on screen.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2024 12:38 |
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He's Walter Skinner, not Walter Clothesner
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2024 12:08 |
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Outpost22 posted:I missed the second ep of the two parter where Mulder was stuck in a train buried in the desert with a bunch of alien bodies. How did he get out alive? Hid himself under the bodies but still got all hosed up and some native Americans nursed him back to health and he had a spiritual journey while in a magical coma.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2024 22:35 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Another X file could walk through walls and saved him There's a later episode about a guy who does that but can't do glass and he gets hit by car and trisected.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2024 22:39 |
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I don't think anyone understands the show less than Chris Carter, with the exception of whoever wrote that episode about the hospital with the cultist doctors who sacrifice patients.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2024 10:38 |
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redshirt posted:Death of the Author, right? BBS fan fiction writers.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2024 13:23 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:The earliest pop-cultural depiction of a weeaboo I can think of. I liked when he talked the fat cop into a stroke.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2024 14:46 |
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Zesty posted:Yeah let me throw a dart here. Yeah, and I think its more apparent because the show peddles in outcasts more than most. I do like the read that Mulder himself is autistic that some modern viewers take, though.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2024 09:46 |
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bagmonkey posted:yep, some dumb weird poo poo like that. and the episode is EXTREMELY PLODDING with it's pacing. Like, even the action parts somehow felt slow and boring. I'm not sure there are too many - Jose Chung appears once, I think?
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2024 16:00 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:Having any kind of world-changing implications from the motw episodes is complicated by having all of the superpowered or supernatural one-off people be gross criminals or unfixable perverts independent of whatever magic thing they do. Nobody could ever convince that lightning kid to do anything good or even be curious about what he can do. Even scientists are usually obsessed with revenge from beyond the grave or some poo poo instead of taking Scully or their old department chair aside for five minutes to explain how it works. The mutants occasionally need to eat humans to survive too, like Toombs, the fat-sucker, the melanin sucker or the fast-food worker guy from one of the later seasons.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2024 16:17 |
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As much as the lore shat the bed, I do like that the Aliens, and their motivation and possible culture, is just completely unknowable. Perhaps not entirely by design, but it skirts cosmic horror.
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 07:33 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:culture I agree but tbh I always saw their motivations as pretty clear, "we want this planet, and we could just murder everybody but it's more efficient to just turn them into more of us instead" Yeah, I guess, but that always felt like method rather than motivation to me.
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 16:48 |