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Erin M. Fiasco posted:How were points totaled again? I also swear someone else had Stop Making Sense on their list but I'm not really checking. Stop making sense probably would have made my all movies seen this year list as it was a great theater experience. Agreed, people convincing me to watch May December when it’s one I usually would have skipped.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:JUSTICE FOR BOTTOMS!!!!
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:JUSTICE FOR BOTTOMS!!!! BeanpolePeckerwood posted:
justice served! it's on the letterboxd list. the points have been updated and the screenshot preview of the list is updated.
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Next year I’ll have to try an all movies seen ranking. It’s just a lot easier to pick 10 out of the 30 2023 releases than 10 out of the 130 total. But maybe I’ll try to keep a running list this year.
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can we leave the thread open for a few days?
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ShoogaSlim posted:justice served! it's on the letterboxd list. the points have been updated and the screenshot preview of the list is updated. Haha, thanks! In seriousness, this was a great thread. Thanks for running it!
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Haha, thanks! In seriousness, this was a great thread. Thanks for running it! my pleasure! i'm glad people had fun. it was fun doing this and learning how hectic it can be to deal with this much info i also learned a good deal about how to organize data across different sheets and how things can pretty easily get pretty messy. i'll have to take it easier on the software devs at work after this lol. BeanpolePeckerwood posted:can we leave the thread open for a few days? i believe that's up to MacheteZombie who hasn't gotten around to poking his head in here yet. but i would love for other people from other threads to also pop in to see how things shook out here. do we think posting an "easy" list in the OP would detract from people actually reading through? i want to show off my little designs but also want to encourage more thread engagement
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ShoogaSlim posted:my pleasure! i'm glad people had fun. it was fun doing this and learning how hectic it can be to deal with this much info you could post a link to the countdown post in the OP
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Yeah agreed, I need to read through this all again. Many films I haven’t heard of (like all that Soviet animation) or ones I seem to be underestimating (past lives and others).
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checkplease posted:Yeah agreed, I need to read through this all again. Many films I haven’t heard of (like all that Soviet animation) or ones I seem to be underestimating (past lives and others). some of those Soyuzmultfilm animations can be seen on youtube even, I'm sure of it, as can Allegro Non Troppo (just make sure you watch the 85 min version, and are maybe doing drugs)
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ShoogaSlim posted:another posted a list with no blurbs but a link to a medium article they wrote with blurbs, so i pulled quotes from there Hah, I thought having just the raw list in order would be easier for spreadsheet purposes so I deliberately didn't pull through any blurbs. Thank you for going to the extra effort!
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josh04 posted:Hah, I thought having just the raw list in order would be easier for spreadsheet purposes so I deliberately didn't pull through any blurbs. Thank you for going to the extra effort! Often what people do in the GOTY thread is have their countdown above with blurbs, and at the bottom of their post they put a little EZ list of just the titles and numbers. Seems to help.
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thanks to everyone who participated in the initial goal of giving me personally an easy to browse list of movie recommendations. a good first go around and looks like it's on the radar for people to contribute to a bigger one next year. I want you all to know that I will definitely watch some of them
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Without adding more to people's workload, I think for the next year edition it might be better to have a 2024 releases differentiated from the older releases? That way there's a new theatricals (which ended up happening anyway) but the other lost of older releases could show MotM's and other stuff? Maybe even a top 5 for the older releases?
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Ah shoot, would have submitted if I'd caught this earlier. Surprised Spider Man got that high a spot given that the film has no ending, nor does it really and doesn't even pretend to. Seeing Venture Bro's make the 25 cut puts a smile on my face. For next year, if you try to do one that includes past releases that's gonna be very, very tricky given how random it's gonna be. Like I'm enjoying Sam Altman films atm, but it feels like a crapshoot if someone on here also happens to watch MaCabe & Mrs. Miller. Would probably too heavily favor franchises or directors like Sorescayze without much space for other things. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jan 2, 2024 |
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i personally feel like it would be more to the spirit of an end of year list and crowning a "victor" if everyone were limited to only movies that came out in the current year i'd be happy to try and put together two lists next year, one of the best first-time-watches from previous years and one for the best of the year. depends on what everyone else thinks, tho. oh also an interesting stat is that the top 15 movies runtime summed is 2,023 minutes whoaaa
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I liked how it was set up this time. You do get a solid best of the year list, but letting people count first time watches gets you a way more interesting spread. It also means people who didn't watch a ton of new movies don't have to stretch or include movies they weren't really crazy about to fill out all ten spots. Plus, this will net some interesting data going forward.
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limiting to new movies only or splitting them up would kind of suck. if you need a list of the mainstream canon approved by milquetoast dipshits then maybe go to NYT
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I'll definitely leave this open a bit then move it to the goodmine. Shooga, thanks for this doing this! I noticed you kept the LB list set to private, can you make it public? I like to like lists so I can access them easier and I plan to use it as a watch list lol. Thanks everyone for participating!
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Also I echo the sentiment that it should be new watches over the year and not just 2023 releases.
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Gripweed posted:I liked how it was set up this time. You do get a solid best of the year list, but letting people count first time watches gets you a way more interesting spread. It also means people who didn't watch a ton of new movies don't have to stretch or include movies they weren't really crazy about to fill out all ten spots. Yeah, it's just myopic to only focus movies from the year in question, it creates a false stratification in film literacy while simultaneously the timeline of the art form's cultural importance continues its steady decline. Even integrated and accounting for old film you're still going to probably end up with a top 3 that is totally contemporary due to the majority of posters engaging with film mostly in that way, but imo contemporary films are often overcelebrated and lack staying power once removed from the momentum of their marketing campaigns or streaming deals. Each decade after the 1970s gets steadily worse, less radical, less experimental, more weakly self-justified and bloated. Regardless of whether good stuff comes out in a given year this trend will continue to get worse from here on out as film continues to veer sharply away from being the dominant art form of the previous century and the industrial/logistical capacity for maintaining it continues to unravel. People taking time to discover the medium's past in context with the present will only become more important in that light, as theaters all but dry up and direct-delivery increases dominance. IMO the spirit of these threads is a fun, wide-ranging celebration rather than an outright competition for honors and cultural relevance like the sycophant circus that is the Oscars, etc, and it's okay if that celebration favors new releases in the top spotlight as long as the rest of the history is also included and respected.
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As others stated, I think you can leave it as is and the top 10 will still likely be composed of films from that year just because you need multiple votes for a film to win. And outside of movies of the month or some horror contest, new movies are going to get more views. And it’s fun seeing old lists too for ideas. Like just I noticed the criterion channel added The Boy Friend which made one of the lists. So now I’ll check that out. checkplease fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jan 2, 2024 |
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MacheteZombie posted:Movies rule 
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they're like little flip-books but they have 
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MacheteZombie posted:Shooga, thanks for this doing this! I noticed you kept the LB list set to private, can you make it public? I like to like lists so I can access them easier and I plan to use it as a watch list lol. my pleasure! i updated the letterboxd list to be public  sounds like most people prefer to keep the list open to whatever you watched in a given year. works for me! i agree it keeps things more versatile, encourages more participation, and provides an added benefit of opening people up to movies from the past they might have overlooked or never heard of. MacheteZombie posted:Movies rule
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checkplease posted:As others stated, I think you can leave it as is and the top 10 will still likely be composed of films from that year just because you need multiple votes for a film to win. And outside of movies of the month or some horror contest, new movies are going to get more views. Yeah, most of my favorites from this year didn't debut this year but the odds of someone else having watched them is a lot slimmer than something that came out in 2023. Not to mention older stuff will probably take a lot of 'top' spots as (I imagine) most folks are inclined to watch older stuff that appeals to ya. Feel like you'll end up with a dozen lists where there's 3-4 overlap between the new releases and then a bunch of wasted single votes for misc. good past stuff. Ya'll do you, but I think you'd at least want to do both (a top for the last year, and a top for first watched). MacheteZombie posted:Movies rule
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maybe some more interesting tidbits of info about the top 15 Movies by directors who it is widely speculated might be their last movie
Movies that are sequels to existing franchises
- second of three planned movies in the Spider-Verse franchise - 14th(??) Spider-Man movie if you count all the ones from Japan and stuff, idk the wikipedia page is a mess - 37th Godzilla movie - fourth movie in the John Wick franchise Movies based on existing properties but are not sequels
- but apparently there are 47(!!) Barbie movies Movies that are sequels or existing properties sorted by age of property
- 69 years - 1954 first movie - 64 years - 1959 first Barbie doll - 61 years - 1962 first Spider-Man comic appearance - 9 years 👶 - 2014 first John Wick movie Movies based on books
Movies with original screenplays
- writ by Dave Callaham and Phil Lord and Christopher Miller 1 loosely based on an existing property - Boy and the Heron inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Do_You_Live%3F - The Holdovers inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlusse 2 based on an existing franchise 3 inspired by true events My sole, perhaps controversial decision for the most original movie written solely by the director with no co-writer and based on nothing else in existence
Movie runtime stats (minutes)
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ShoogaSlim posted:i personally feel like it would be more to the spirit of an end of year list and crowning a "victor" if everyone were limited to only movies that came out in the current year I think two lists is the way to go. When we are only getting less than thirty participants and the tend is towards the recent then the addition of past movies can only morph the list at the end while not seeing in actual placings. For example if I put just one of my older favorite movies onto the list and moved up Spiderverse as a result perhaps then Spiderverse moves up to 3 the former 3 spot moves to 2 and we have a different end of year ranking despite the films in the list changing not at all. If you are interested in compiling something like an Oscar's list then splitting it into two is preferable. If you are interested in introducing people to new or interesting films of the past or of current year than two list is preferable from the additional space you gain from having twice as many spots. I'd personally prefer to see a top ten with Zone of Interest, the new Hamaguchi or Iron Claw taking up a ninth or tenth place than it being filled with a Scorsese everyone has already seen or some Kubrick masterpiece that tomes have been written on. Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Jan 2, 2024 |
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Gaius Marius posted:I think two lists is the way to go. When we are only getting less than thirty participants and the tend is towards the recent then the addition of past movies can only morph the list at the end while not seeing in actual placings. For example if I put just one of my older favorite movies onto the list and moved up Spiderverse as a result perhaps then Spiderverse moves up to 3 the former 3 spot moves to 2 and we have a different end of year ranking despite the films in the list changing not at all. One list won't be an issue as there will be more people next time.
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i will still happily do this again next year regardless of participation, but i would def like to see more people get involved, and i think they will and yeah i was thinking of maybe doing two lists this year, but the number of times a movie from a previous year came up was so low it didn't feel meaningful (yet). for anyone interested, here are all the movies from not 2023: All movies from 2022 code:code:code:code:code:code:code:code:code:
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For Suzume at least the movie didn't get a wide release in the US until 23. I also wouldn't count on more participants, intentions and reality rarely meet.
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the oscars are trash, we don't need to create a goon facsimile of them, their fartstink can be deduced from thousands of miles away
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The Oscars being bad is not relevant. You're letting your hatred of a horse race cloud your judgement of a purely voluntary celebration of film.
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Gaius Marius posted:I also wouldn't count on more participants, intentions and reality rarely meet. starting the year off with a positive attitude, i see!
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Gaius Marius posted:For Suzume at least the movie didn't get a wide release in the US until 23. As noted earlier, the first SA GOTY had 59 participants. The second year had 143.
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Gaius Marius posted:For Suzume at least the movie didn't get a wide release in the US until 23.     what specific date would you prefer i use? BeanpolePeckerwood posted:As noted earlier, the first SA GOTY had 59 participants. The second year had 143. if we build it, they will come. i was looking through the tviv threads and those have grown in size as well. just remember: MacheteZombie posted:Movies rule
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