massive spider posted:

IMO one of their weaker points of their late stage stuff is the drumming. It's basically just kind of functional grooves and boom baps following the riff without a lot of surprises. I was listening to The Handler off Drones because I remember liking that at the time but it feels kind of plodding to me now. As a contrast City of Delusion is one of the high points off black holes and revelations.

I've seen them live three times from Origin of Symmetry tour, to at a festival, to just getting a free ticket. The more their music depends on playing to a click and backing track the less exciting it is.