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SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016


I lost interest in the band when they released 'The Resistance' and didn't pay attention to them for a long time.

A while back I went and listened to everything they've put out since (not long before their last album released iirc) and while they haven't put out good albums, there are some excellent tracks scattered throughout that are on-par with their earlier material imo. Can make a very good double album by cherry picking the best tracks off the last four that they put out which is what I did and I enjoy listening to it as much as their early stuff.

Did the same with their earlier albums as well, replacing tracks I didn't like with non-album tracks that I preferred and they're just one of those bands, I think, where you have to pick and choose from their catalog to compile what you like. Also helps if you can tune out the lyrics because sometimes they're unbearably bad.

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SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016


Disco Pope posted:

I remember hearing that a lot, but I don't heat it, at least outside of the debut.

He does have a point actually, a lot of Radiohead fans loved their rockers like Just, Paranoid Android, Electioneering, My Iron Lung, Creep, You etc. and they pretty much abandoned that type of music right as Muse appeared on the scene who were basically, "Hey, you enjoyed The Bends? You thought OK Computer was good? Here's more of that" and they provided. Coldplay also got lumped into that same category, albeit for catering to fans of the mellower tracks like Fake Plastic Trees etc. and at the time, I remember the press and fans in general lumping both Muse & Coldplay into the 'Radiohead ripoffs' category. Both bands evolved in different ways but they hit the scene at just the right time and filled the void that Radiohead left as they moved on, and they saw tremendous success because of it. Muse built off Radiohead's rock tracks and took them further, while Coldplay heavily leaned into the more mellow side of Radiohead and took that sound further too. I'd be surprised if fans of early Radiohead didn't also really enjoy the first couple of albums by Muse & Coldplay.


henpod posted:

Yeah, as a longtime fan I don't mind the direction they've gone in, as there are still some good tracks on recent albums, but a lot of bad ones too. But, the drumming has become really uninspired. There's no real creativity and the dude is there to keep time, but seems to have checked out a long time ago.

Dom had to learn double bass drumming for the latest album which he apparently wasn't happy about but Matt insisted. I think it's a pretty wholesome story though tbh. Basically Matt's son likes metal and will go to Muse shows to see his dad on stage but prefers heavier stuff and mentioned Slipknot, so Matt listened to them and decided to do some tracks in that style for the latest album. His son loves them (before album release there was a cute video Matt shared of his son headbanging to one of the new songs in the car :3:) and in an interview he said he wanted to try some heavier things just for him and he was happy when he saw he succeeded. It's not a long album either so focusing a couple tracks on the idea of, "I hope my kid likes these" is wholesome as heck imo and turns out they're absolute bangers live :shobon: Complete opposite of chasing widespread appeal and success, guy just wanted his son to think he's cool.

The album was mostly recorded during Covid lockdowns as well so I think the drums on the album were just programmed by Matt and not actually Dom playing? Considering the "You need to learn double bass now" comment I think that's likely and a lot of DAWs have great sounding drums these days. I saw another interview where Matt gave a tour of his Twin Peaks themed home studio and played one of the tracks on his computer and isolated some backing vocals before sharing that whereas usually the band would get backup singers for what was heard, instead he had everyone's family sing it over Skype etc. and recorded it to get the effect since it was done in lockdown, and that was his parents and Dom & Chris' families all chanting together that he mixed together himself.

SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016


massive spider posted:

One uniting factor is the Jeff Buckley influence. Fake Plastic Trees recording was part inspired by a Buckley performance, Matt Bellamy owns one of Buckleys guitars.

I think we've seen the same interview. It's where Matt said in the early days they didn't know what to do about vocals because Matt was so nervous about his style of singing until he saw a Buckley performance on TV and that gave him the confidence to do vocals? Could swear I read somewhere the US release of Origin of Symmetry was initially turned down by the record company because of all the falsetto as well.


Ratios and Tendency posted:

Radiohead were the biggest band in the UK in the mid to late 90s, playing radio friendly arena rock. In 2000 they released Kid A, which was an experimental electronic album with no singles or music videos.

I remember a music video for Idioteque (live performance in a room with security cameras) which NIN did their own take on with the lead single for With Teeth in '05. Radiohead made all these bizarre "blips" that acted as adverts for Kid A as well, odd little cartoons with the bear or other Donwood/Thom visuals onscreen while a snippet of a Kid A track played. It was charmingly quirky.


Escobarbarian posted:

I think the Muse/Radiohead comparisons are ridiculous unless the only Radiohead song you’ve ever heard is Just

and I think Muse started sucking because Matt Bellamy is a lunatic who thinks Bush did 9/11

A lot of the comparisons were pushed by the UK music press. Bands like Stereophonics, Oasis & Blur etc. were spared the comparisons but the way in which Muse & Coldplay were compared weren't ridiculous, imo. I personally found it odd that Blur weren't considered a contemporary however and 'Music Is My Radar' was released a couple weeks after Kid A and honestly wouldn't have been out of place actually being on the record despite being a different band. Damon was really forward thinking but chose to pursue Gorillaz shortly after which became a phenomenon.

As for politics, last interview with Matt I saw had him describe himself as a socialist libertarian. Actually said it with a completely straight face.

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