Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
I'm reading Shogun right now, because it was my father-in-law's favorite book. It's 1210 pages, and the first 600 were a slog. But once I got past that halfway point, it kinda just clicked for me and now I'm really into it. Still 300 pages to go, but I really like it now.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Spinz posted:

All of Clavells works are like history porn/trash and I enjoyed them in my 20s and 30s as well as James Michener who wrote similar sagas.

Pre internet I used to buy paperbacks by the large grocery sack full from second hand stores :haw:

Secondhand paperbacks are the greatest things in the world. I don't think I'll read any more of Clavell, but only because they're such a time investment.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Sex Farm posted:

Started reading Books of Blood vol 1-3 and it's pretty good so far, I like horror fiction.

In the hills, the cities is an absolute banger and the stories so far have ranged from "okay" to "absolute banger"

Is Hellbound Heart in that collection?

A Strange Aeon posted:

The company FASA (known for Shadowrun and Battletech) inexplicably made a number of boardgames based on Clavell novels, among them Shogun and Whirlwind, "the family game of adventure in Iran during the final days of the Shah."

Kinda a weird thing that exists!

That's amazing. Apparently there are a couple text-adventure games based on it, too.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Captain Hygiene posted:

Jurassic Park's been on my mind since it got mentioned upthread, and I finally jumped in to give it re-read for the first time in probably 15 years. Man it holds up so far, I'm standing by my thought that it's my favorite premise for its general thriller genre, and it seems like it's paying that off so far.

Of course I love the movie, but I'm enjoying the stuff that got trimmed out of it. The whole intro tracing procompsognathuses from isolated incidents through the medical/forensic networks to slowly figure out what's going on was a lot of fun in a very Crichton-ish way, and it only barely made it into the movies as the beach scene in Lost World. With how meh the later movies have been, it really puts me in the mood to go back to this one in a miniseries or something which could go through it without rushing through to fit it in a single film.

It's so extremely good. Think I'll also give it a reread next. gently caress it, Congo, too.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
Yeah, I can see that. I read No County and The Road, and that really put me off. Is the Blood Meridian audiobook good, then?

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
I've only listened to one audiobook in my life-Raptor Red- but I really like radio dramas.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
Libby would probably be killer if you lived in NYC or something. I have access to the Carnegie library in Pittsburgh, so it has a pretty good selection. Not everything I've ever searched for, but enough.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Captain Hygiene posted:

Well, I'm finishing up Jurassic Park today, and it mostly held up very well. It put me in the mood to re-read Lost World, which I have essentially no recollection of. I'm really curious how it will fare in comparison, I remember reading that Crichton was at least somewhat pushed into it by the first Jurassic Park movie being such a megahit, rather than being something he did out of his own interest. For what it's worth, I don't like the second movie, but I have a general idea of it not having much to do with the book. I guess I could just pull up Wikipedia and find out, but y'know, :effort:

I ended up reading something else between Shogun and Jurassic Park, so the grandkids just got to the island. The Lost World is, in a lot of ways, a retread of the first book, and doesn't share much in common with the movie. It's good, though, if you liked the first book. Some really neat sequences in it.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Captain Hygiene posted:

Well, I'm finishing up Jurassic Park today, and it mostly held up very well. It put me in the mood to re-read Lost World, which I have essentially no recollection of. I'm really curious how it will fare in comparison, I remember reading that Crichton was at least somewhat pushed into it by the first Jurassic Park movie being such a megahit, rather than being something he did out of his own interest. For what it's worth, I don't like the second movie, but I have a general idea of it not having much to do with the book. I guess I could just pull up Wikipedia and find out, but y'know, :effort:

Oh, man, I forgot how cool the sequence about halfway through, before everything goes terribly where they realize that the computer has only been looking for fewer than expected animals and not more than expected. Really cool stuff. If you end up enjoying The Lost World, I'd also recommend Sphere, which I think might just edge out JP as my favorite Michael Crichton book.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Captain Hygiene posted:

I'm in Congo now, and eh... feels like it's veering too far into backwards representation of Africa for me. It's also the oldest of these Crichton books, more so than I thought, which probably helped lead to that.

One thing I do enjoy about it (and Sphere, and Jurassic Park) is the technology. They're all technological thrillers to some extent, and a lot of times they're general enough that you can forget when they were written. But then you'll hit a part where they go "and this corporation hit a breakthrough that let them leap ahead and produce computer chips with 256K of memory :aaaaa:", and you're like, oh yeah, this is from 30-40+ years ago :v:



Yeah, fellow Crichton bro. There are some passages that gave me pause, as well. Add some of that to his disappointing climate change skepticism(although, it seems from his fiction to be more of a belief that the rock we live on will be fine, any cataclysms we cause will simply wipe us and most of the other life on the planet out, but it's inevitable and new forms will arise and the cycle will continue) , and he seems like he was an rear end in a top hat. Or maybe just a really cynical misanthrope.

I finished Eaters of the Dead a couple of days ago, and now I really regret not sticking with it when I was a kid, because I think I would have gone bananas for it.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Spinz posted:

Reading Shogun again because of the hulu series and I'm having to do it online for free on my phone [I'm poor,] and man do I hate reading a book online. It's literally less pleasurable.

I am extremely grateful I found it though

I read super fast and I SO miss all of my paperbacks

https://www.thriftbooks.com/ is kinda the poo poo.

Also, Fujiko > Mariko all day. Although, Mariko is pretty rad, too. Just has bad taste in dudes(Buttthorne). That said, it's also pretty great when he goes back to visit his homies and he's just hella grossed out and thinks they're so dirty that he chucks all his clothes and walks home naked.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
Try out the John Douglas books next. Dude who created the FBI criminal profiling system.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
I'm reading this book called Nimitz Class by Patrick Robinson, who is apparently the ghost writer of Lone Survivor. I've had it in my library since I was a teenager, so I know I must have read it, but I don't remember a thing about it. I'm halfway through it, and it SUUUUUUCKS. A lot of, and I mean a LOT, of ARE TROOPS worship, a lot of THOSE DUMB LIBERAL MEDIA FUCKFACES and Manly Men Midwestern Cowboy Rancher Republican poo poo. Like, you know this dude knows exactly what Bush dick tastes like. Plus all the western civilization is the right one and the middle east is a lawless toilet. It's just dumb. I read a few Tom Clancy books when I was a kid, now I'm reluctant to revisit them, even though I've been wanting to reread Red October for a while.

I make bad life choices.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

madmatt112 posted:

Is Bush dick what you get when two or more bros go a-campin’ in the woods for a few nights?

And one of the dicks 'accidentally' shoots someone.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
If you're in to hard scifi, I recommend my very favorite science fiction authors, Stephen Baxter and Alastair Reynolds.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
The Long Earth series is more Baxter than Pratchett, I've found.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

Tree Bucket posted:

I agree there's not much in the way of plot, but I'd disagree on the characterisation. That's almost the point of the series. Like the opening chapter of Red is from Maya's pov, with a strong focus on interpersonal dynamics, then you get Nadia's pov chapter which includes a page-long list of tools and swiftly dismisses all Maya's angst and politicking as teenage melodrama. Everyone's on the same planet but inhabit very different worlds.
But yeah there is the big question of "why are the megacorps funding this" or at least "how are the characters paying for their food and socks." I wonder if that's a result of its super early 90's publication date, back when "corporation" conjured up some vast and sprawling zaibatsu or whatever, rather than e.g. Musk or Zuckerberg, or Google slowly poisoning its own algorithms with ai garbage.

Reynolds is real good, but I'm not sure his sci fi is "hard." Dark, definitely.

I wound up liking it less and less as it went on. It combined Pratchett's hard science with Baxter's wit and wordplay. Uhh.

I think Reynolds' Revelation Space books would qualify as hard sci fi.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
One thing I prefer in the book vs the movie is that Grant loves kids, because they're so enthusiastic about dinosaurs. I think it makes a lot of sense.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
Not quite South America- Dominican Republic, but check out Junot Diaz.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply