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AndrewP posted:I know it’s not quite the same but he did play and succeed in the SEC, which isn’t known for being a conference full of small players Everyone in the NFL is an amazing athlete though. Even the best college defenses don’t have NFL talent across the board. Maybe a few guys on a Georgia or Bama defense will be starters on Sundays. The physical limitations get magnified when you jump from college to the pros. I don’t think his size is/was disqualifying, he was a really good college QB and in a way that could translate to the pros, it just has to happened so far.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Everyone in the NFL is an amazing athlete though.   You may not like it but this is what peak male performance looks like.
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Cultivating mass is what makes an NFL QB. Bryce has a long road ahead of him.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:he was a really good college QB and in a way that could translate to the pros, it just has to happened so far. What way was this? I don't watch college football unless paid to, but watching him play in the NFL is pure pain, and I would love to know what people saw in him that they thought would translate.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:https://x.com/tompelissero/status/1742266528605589969?s=46&t=OK6AvWM-NBtlIQDYnQH66w Minimal usage, but he still only averaged 3 ypc. I'm sure some playoff team will be desperate, but it sure would be great if he just got told to gently caress off.
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“Fresh legs” The dude’s washed.
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ozymandius1024 posted:Minimal usage, but he still only averaged 3 ypc. 67 carries for 3ypc lol
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Coldforge posted:What way was this? I don't watch college football unless paid to, but watching him play in the NFL is pure pain, and I would love to know what people saw in him that they thought would translate. He was elusive, could throw off platform, generally made good decisions, seemed to read defenses well, was creative when things broke down. His offensive line wasn’t great so you could accuse him of coasting on superior talent across the board. He didn’t get flustered easily. The assumption was that based on what he showed in college he had the processing ability to run a modern NFL offense. His arm wasn’t amazing but it was good enough.
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Coldforge posted:What way was this? I don't watch college football unless paid to, but watching him play in the NFL is pure pain, and I would love to know what people saw in him that they thought would translate. Yeah like YOLO said Bryce was a fine prospect in my opinion. He could make all the throws you needed to make, sure as hell looked like he could read a defense, and did a lot of things when plays broke down that most people couldn't. Not in a total bullshit way I guess, but he was able to evade pressure and make things happen. I'm sad for the dude, I think he ended up in the wrong place. And now it might be too late already.
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AndrewP posted:oh poo poo We have Justice Hill and hopefully Keaton Mitchell and JK Dobbins. I think if anything we should try to find someone who can replace Edwards who is probably gone.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Drew Brees was pretty successful but upon a cursory internet glance he's listed at 6'0". He was listed as 6’0” but having had family stand right next to him, he was probably an inch or two shorter. That said, Bryce’s build seems a lot slighter, and Brees infamous had to tilt his head in odd ways to see over or around the offensive line at times
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Kawalimus posted:We have Justice Hill and hopefully Keaton Mitchell and JK Dobbins. I think if anything we should try to find someone who can replace Edwards who is probably gone.
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abelwingnut posted:regardless of size, wasn't brees one of the most accurate and precise qb ever? like, he really could pinpoint his passes with ease. Yes. People also ragged on Brees for his size too and Bryce is smaller
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The thing about Bryce isnt just his height its that he looks like he has the muscle mass of a HS freshman too - he's small in every sense of the word
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I think people were saying Cook to the Ravens for the playoffs because Keaton is out for the year. Oh I somehow missed that. Ok I could handle that instead of Gordon.
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Parallax posted:i believed that bryce could turn the corner with a better coaching staff until i saw that hit where he spun 180 in the air like a rag doll. dude is just as likely to die on field as he is to become an average qb 15 yards when it happens though
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it's really disappointing that Bryce seems so unlikely to pan out now, I really liked the idea of this tiny QB just darting around the field and lighting it up
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The337th posted:it's really disappointing that Bryce seems so unlikely to pan out now, I really liked the idea of this tiny QB just darting around the field and lighting it up that guy already exists, his name is Kyler Murray and even he's not great
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Alaois posted:that guy already exists, his name is Kyler Murray and even he's not great not tiny enough
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The337th posted:it's really disappointing that Bryce seems so unlikely to pan out now, I really liked the idea of this tiny QB just darting around the field and lighting it up watch replays of philly/arizona from this past week edit: nuts, beaten
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Isn't Bryce just a product of the Alabama system? A team of semi-pros is going to make the QB look good in most of the games against most of their opponents.
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Alaois posted:that guy already exists, his name is Kyler Murray and even he's not great And he's got a cannon arm compared to Bryce and is way faster.
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Waltzing Along posted:Isn't Bryce just a product of the Alabama system? A team of semi-pros is going to make the QB look good in most of the games against most of their opponents. I thought he was a product of his receivers, notably how much he regressed once Jameson Williams went pro. The classic 'Saban QB' was never a first round pick and that didn't change until the shift five years ago to Tua and Mac Jones throwing to a bevy of first rounders instead of pounding the ball nonstop with 3 future NFL RBs rotating carries. Heck, Bryce's Heisman year he absolutely torched Georgia with Jamo running wild, then in the remarch Jamo got hurt and Bryce had 2 ints in a foregone conclusion loss. Last year, Bryce was throwing 50 times a game to put up big numbers but Gibbs was the real weapon. trevorreznik fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jan 3, 2024 |
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Waltzing Along posted:Isn't Bryce just a product of the Alabama system? A team of semi-pros is going to make the QB look good in most of the games against most of their opponents. No, not really. There are lots of guys on very talented teams who simply don’t look very good and don’t get drafted high. Jalen Milroe looks like poo poo this year. Stetson Bennett went in the 4th. Hendon Hooker had gaudy numbers but got knocked because of the scheme he played in and Jalen Hyatt being a cheat code in college. It’s possible to look at how a guy plays and figure out if it’s all just scheme and talent around him or if he’s legitimately doing special things. It’s very funny to have to explain this to a big Brock Purdy booster, but Bryce was a legitimately good college QB, not just Jake Coker with better publicity. trevorreznik posted:I thought he was a product of his receivers, notably how much he regressed once Jameson Williams went pro. The classic 'Saban QB' was never a first round pick and that didn't change until the shift five years ago to Tua and Mac Jones throwing to a bevy of first rounders instead of pounding the ball nonstop with 3 future NFL RBs rotating carries. Bryce had a kinda lovely line in college and his OC was BoB. He had good receivers in 2021 but I dare you to try and name one of his 2022 WRs without looking. Gibbs only had 440 yards and 44 receptions in 2022 and Bryce threw for 3300 yards, 32TDs and 5 Ints in 12 games. Who were the guys who were elevating his play?
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The thing with Brees / Bryce is that for starters Brees was good when he arrived in New Orleans because they built a lot around him, lots of quick hitting rythymn throws to after the catch guys, an all universe interior line for almost a decade, consistent and constant investment in the run game and offensive line and a coach who was able to recognise what Brees did well and do a lot of it. I can do a long post of where the Panthers hosed up this year and to be fair those mis-steps are fixable but I am struggling to see the path forward at this point given who the owner is and what he's done in the past. If Bryce had of gone to San Franciso or the Rams, Seattle or Miami for instance I think he'd have been absolutely fine (yes, I know they're the better teams in the NFL etc etc but my point is more what they do to put the pieces in place). Yeah he's a little small, he has an arm thats effective but not advanced or elite but he can make things happen coming off platform and moving around and I still think he could be a player in the NFL but the Panthers have allowed him to be sacked 60 times this year and I read a stat the other day that he's been tackled just beyond the line of scrimmage when the protection has completely broken down and hes managed to scramble for a yard something like 9 times in the last 8 games alone. If you consider those sacks because that's what they functionally are he's already been sacked more than David Carr was in his first year in the league. To put it another way if you were going to put a QB in the worst possible situation to succeed it would probably look a lot like -Give them an average supporting cast at receiver -use poor protection -take the emphasis off the run game -pair them with a defense that allows long sustained drives -put them in an unfamiliar offense that asks different things in terms of presnap alignment and reads -change that scheme and how it operates 3 times in the season -fire his QB coach mid year -fire his head coach mid year -reduce the possibility of future investment by not maximizing capital We're pretty much checking every box. Sure "he small lol" posts are cool and good but it's about 10% of the actual issue in his development. Its worse than how Alex Smith was handled in San Francisco. It's probably the worst development of a QB prospect I've ever seen following the NFL.
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Doug Flutie is probably the most successful short QB and he's three inches taller than Bryce and was built a lot heavier.
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Comparing Brees and Bryce is absolutely not fair. You’re giving way too much credit to Bryce there. Drew has a stronger arm, hes bigger, and he’s more accurate.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Drew has a stronger arm I think I'd quibble with this part a little bit in theory. Drew had to set his legs and launch most of the time if he was going deep or even intermediate, he wasn't doing some things I think Bryce can maybe do potentially. But yeah he was definitely a lot bigger and when you're saying Drew Brees is a lot bigger than someone that's troublesome. And it's not like Bryce is truly elite in the arm area anyway. ...and of course one of them is a hall of famer and one will be out of the league after his rookie contract it seems at this point.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:It would be very funny if somehow Bryce ends up on the Lions and then Jamo/Gibbs/Bryce ball out I really really want this how do I make it happen? @MCDC Please trade for tiny QB he's from a broken home and just needs some TLC to truly shine
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Grittybeard posted:I think I'd quibble with this part a little bit in theory. Drew had to set his legs and launch most of the time if he was going deep or even intermediate, he wasn't doing some things I think Bryce can maybe do potentially. I may be wrong but I haven’t seen Bryce throwing anything near Brees’ 60ish yard max. Or maybe I’m just flat out making it up in my head
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