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Same guys as this year. Burton and Bond. I mainly remember Bryce doing Houdini acts away from pressure with that bad line and then throwing to someone who's found a hole in the zone but I was never that impressed. Frankly, reminded me a lot of Manziel in the "run around until someone gets open" sense. It really is so hard to tell though. Mac Jones looked a million times better with Bama, but had a way better supporting cast. Is Mac better than Bryce in the NFL? Maybe? But yeah Bryce was better than Sims, Coker, McCarron et al
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Amy Pole Her posted:I may be wrong but I haven’t seen Bryce throwing anything near Brees’ 60ish yard max. Or maybe I’m just flat out making it up in my head He has a different motion and style, he also doesn't have that heater with the shoulder twist that Brees used to have. He's got more of an arm like Tua where he'll throw it fast, but not far if that makes sense and he can hang them at times, but he can throw dimes, adjust his release angle and all that stuff. He also can throw a half decent flat fast ball when he needs to. Mechanically he's pretty decent on and off platform, even if he is a little toesy in his set up. He really needs an interior line though. Having 6 different starters at guard since preseason has been a big, big problem.
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fartknocker posted:Brees infamous had to tilt his head in odd ways to see over or around the offensive line at times Neck Strong? No, Neck Flexible  Looking for that I found this one, and I think a good off-season project would be collecting gifs and mp4s of players going  or  mid-play. This one, Michigan punter, Geno going "oh my god!" versus Aaron Donald, "God Damnit Donald!", etc.
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abelwingnut posted:regardless of size, wasn't brees one of the most accurate and precise qb ever? like, he really could pinpoint his passes with ease. Brees has 3" and 40 lbs on Bryce.
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Reminder in these trying times that this was flagged as a penalty.
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Even if Bryce were the 2nd coming of brees (physical traits be damned), it took brees 5 years and going to a different team with one of the top 5 modern offensive coaches to achieve that hall of fame caliber play. Maybe Bryce gets there, but people seem to think brees just came out of college phenomenal rather than him nearly washing out. So basically, look forward to Bryce being a hall of famer when he goes to the raiders in 3 years.
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Coldforge posted:Reminder in these trying times that this was flagged as a penalty. And is probably why the Seahawks won the super bowl. If that is ruled correctly, the 49ers win and get HFA in the NFCCG and probably win.
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Waltzing Along posted:And is probably why the Seahawks won the super bowl. Uh the reason the Seahawks won was because the 49ers tried Sherman with a sorry receiver like Crabtree. That would have been the case home or away.
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https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1742232121501196497#m yesss. glad to see this coming back around. I understand the devaluation of running backs, you really can get good ones on the cheap. but linebackers? you can barely get a good one in the first round, and they're gonna take like two years to really understand how to play what might be the most difficult position on the defense. every good OC knows how to put bad linebackers in hell.
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really queer Christmas posted:So basically, look forward to Bryce being a hall of famer when he goes to the raiders in 3 years. Who the gently caress do you think is coaching the Raiders when he arrives?
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mllaneza posted:Who the gently caress do you think is coaching the Raiders when he arrives? Could be Harbaugh from the latest rumors
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a neat cape posted:Could be Harbaugh from the latest rumors Harbaugh made Jed grow up; maybe it’ll work for Mark, too.
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AndrewP posted:https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1742232121501196497#m the only problem is that ILBs typically have an RB shelf life. but yeah - god i remember being stoked about arthur brown cause I was convinced he was gonna be the new meta of coverage linebacker
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trevorreznik posted:Same guys as this year. Burton and Bond. I mainly remember Bryce doing Houdini acts away from pressure with that bad line and then throwing to someone who's found a hole in the zone but I was never that impressed. Frankly, reminded me a lot of Manziel in the "run around until someone gets open" sense. Hmm... quote:Mac Jones looked a million times better with Bama Ah.... quote:Bama
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I’ve mentioned this before but I literally gasped when I saw Bryce in person. As small as he looks on television it’s even more pronounced in real life. I refuse to believe Frank reich, who knows what it takes to play NFL qb in a way few coaches do, sat by him at dinner and didn’t feel the same way.
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AndrewP posted:https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1742232121501196497#m Yeah same with KC. When they had Anthony Hitchens, Reggie Ragland and even Daniel Sorensen playing ILB it was a disaster. Any Tight end or running back had a free MOF route for them. Now with Dru Tranquill and Willie Gay things are much better.
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FizFashizzle posted:I’ve mentioned this before but I literally gasped when I saw Bryce in person. Mac Jones got poo poo for being too small and Bryce Young is way smaller than him
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Nodoze posted:Mac Jones got poo poo for being too small and Bryce Young is way smaller than him I don't remember hearing him being too small - he's 6'3". More that he was just a really lovely athlete. And boy is he!
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FizFashizzle posted:I refuse to believe Frank reich, who knows what it takes to play NFL qb in a way few coaches do, sat by him at dinner and didn’t feel the same way. He probably knew the job was a sham when Tepper made him hire the cast of Captain Planet instead of people who shared any of his vision for the Panthers and were loyal to him. Someone made a great point that it makes you understand why Nepotism is such a thing. When Tepper said that Bryce Young was a point guard and would eliminate the need to draft elite wrs, I'm sure Reich knew, but he has always had a problem saying no or admitting defeat...
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pasaluki posted:... It's the anniversary of The Comeback today so kudos to you if that's why you slipped that in there. I remember being brutally cold at that game and asking to go home at halftime but my dad was too cheap to give up on the tickets he'd bought on the side of the road.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I don't remember hearing him being too small - he's 6'3". More that he was just a really lovely athlete. And boy is he! I wouldn't say he's a lovely athlete, he can move around better than you'd think he can looking at him. Don't you remember everyone saying he was small and needed to get bigger when he got drafted, especially after he got hurt in training camp and had to start wearing the knee brace.
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jaadee posted:It's the anniversary of The Comeback today so kudos to you if that's why you slipped that in there. I remember being brutally cold at that game and asking to go home at halftime but my dad was too cheap to give up on the tickets he'd bought on the side of the road. Father knows best. I remember there being stories of Bills fans trying to rappel or climb back into the stadium like they were Assassin's Creed characters.
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jaadee posted:It's the anniversary of The Comeback today so kudos to you if that's why you slipped that in there. I remember being brutally cold at that game and asking to go home at halftime but my dad was too cheap to give up on the tickets he'd bought on the side of the road. I remember watching that game with my Mom and my Uncle when I was real young, and for years afterwards she would bring it up to chide me for giving up on a game too early. To this day I feel bad turning a game off at halftime, and every time something like Jags-Chargers happens, I think of my mom going 'See?' lol
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One of the things I noticed a few years back with Tua, is that in college he would take really deep drops on most pass plays, as Bama was mostly unconcerned with getting beaten around the edge. But he was really struggling with short sets in the NFL. I wonder if that's the major issue with Bryce Young. He's uncomfortable with short sets, and NFL edge rushers will get to you if you drop deep all the time.
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Black Lighter posted:I remember watching that game with my Mom and my Uncle when I was real young, and for years afterwards she would bring it up to chide me for giving up on a game too early. To this day I feel bad turning a game off at halftime, and every time something like Jags-Chargers happens, I think of my mom going 'See?' lol
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A Buffer Gay Dude posted:Uh the reason the Seahawks won was because the 49ers tried Sherman with a sorry receiver like Crabtree. That would have been the case home or away. Yeah, you're right. The play didn't matter. If Seattle didn't get the 1 seed, they wouldn't have had a game at home where they had the biggest HFA in the league and would have had to play an extra game while the 49ers would have had a bye. And then when they played in San Francisco at Candlestick which was loud as gently caress back in the day the game would have gone exactly the same, every single play from beginning to the end would have been the same. A game where Seattle barely won. You are absolutely correct.
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Waltzing Along posted:Yeah, you're right. The play didn't matter. If Seattle didn't get the 1 seed, they wouldn't have had a game at home where they had the biggest HFA in the league and would have had to play an extra game while the 49ers would have had a bye. And then when they played in San Francisco at Candlestick which was loud as gently caress back in the day the game would have gone exactly the same, every single play from beginning to the end would have been the same. A game where Seattle barely won. It appears u mad
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AndrewP posted:https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1742232121501196497#m shyduck fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jan 3, 2024 |
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Waltzing Along posted:Yeah, you're right. The play didn't matter. If Seattle didn't get the 1 seed, they wouldn't have had a game at home where they had the biggest HFA in the league and would have had to play an extra game while the 49ers would have had a bye. And then when they played in San Francisco at Candlestick which was loud as gently caress back in the day the game would have gone exactly the same, every single play from beginning to the end would have been the same. A game where Seattle barely won. lol imagine replying like this to a (clear, v good) joke
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shyduck posted:They're trying to compensate by having Reddick play a hybrid edge/LB role but that just neuters the pass rush and it all goes to hell isn't that what they had him doing in Arizona and his mediocre production is why he was available to the Eagles in the first place
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Waltzing Along posted:Yeah, you're right. The play didn't matter. If Seattle didn't get the 1 seed, they wouldn't have had a game at home where they had the biggest HFA in the league and would have had to play an extra game while the 49ers would have had a bye. And then when they played in San Francisco at Candlestick which was loud as gently caress back in the day the game would have gone exactly the same, every single play from beginning to the end would have been the same. A game where Seattle barely won. It is good that you understand the way of the world.
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AndrewP posted:https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1742232121501196497#m This is a genuine question not trying to be a smartass as I don't know the contract details but with CMC wouldn't the 49ers be a good example of the value of a top-tier RB?
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Can someone edit Kam into Kyle Hamilton? Thanks in advance. 
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Tom Tucker posted:This is a genuine question not trying to be a smartass as I don't know the contract details but with CMC wouldn't the 49ers be a good example of the value of a top-tier RB? Top-tier RB's are generally luxury products in the NFL. They can be absolutely amazing if the rest of your team is already there but you'll run them down if that's all you've got. See CMC in Carolina vs CMC in SF.
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I would say that CMC is a luxury the 49ers can afford because they're not paying a QB. Jaylen Warren is making like $800k a year. Achane makes whatever a 3rd rounder makes. These guys are awesome and dirt cheap. Not AS good as CMC of course, but good enough that an OC like Shanahan could probably get 70-80% of CMC's value with them at a fraction of the cost. I mean I'm a Ravens fan and have been dealing with RB-by-committee for the last decade but it seems to work AndrewP fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 3, 2024 |
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pasaluki posted:Father knows best. There’s a great line in the Four Falls of Buffalo 30 for 30 where various Bills players/staff talk about fans who were at that game, where it’s at the point where (IIRC) Steve Tasker says “I’ve met 1.2 million people who were in that game and climbed fences to get back in.”
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Elijah Mitchell is also pretty good for the Niners and makes less than a million/year. He absolutely doesn’t do everything CMC does, but he also has some advantages, like a 4.40 vs CMC’s 4.49.
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rjmccall posted:Elijah Mitchell is also pretty good for the Niners and makes less than a million/year. He absolutely doesn’t do everything CMC does, but he also has some advantages, like a 4.40 vs CMC’s 4.49. And (granted against a terrible defense) the Niners didn’t miss a beat when they sat CMC last week, Mitchell had an identical y/rush. He absolutely isn’t as flexible a weapon but the Niners are still a top 5 offense with him in
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Nervous posted:Top-tier RB's are generally luxury products in the NFL. They can be absolutely amazing if the rest of your team is already there but you'll run them down if that's all you've got. See CMC in Carolina vs CMC in SF. Yeah, if you look at the rest of the top 10 RB's by APY it's a laundry list of injured, bad or guys producing averagely on middling offenses. Sadly, don't pay running backs continues to be the correct approach.
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Nodoze posted:I wouldn't say he's a lovely athlete, he can move around better than you'd think he can looking at him. Don't you remember everyone saying he was small and needed to get bigger when he got drafted, especially after he got hurt in training camp and had to start wearing the knee brace. he moves around like a 60 year old man in the pocket he's a dumpy slow dude rjmccall posted:Elijah Mitchell is also pretty good for the Niners and makes less than a million/year. He absolutely doesn’t do everything CMC does, but he also has some advantages, like a 4.40 vs CMC’s 4.49. Elijah Mitchell turns to dust anytime he has to get more than 5 carries in a game.
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