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bman in 2288 posted:Oh poo poo I didn't see any of those clues to Crow Mauler's true identity. The hallway just ends with a sewer grate that you can't do anything with. The reason I've never ventured past the prison entrance is that half the time you start a run, a Lizardman will be camping the end of the hallway and that can be a very precarious fight at the start of the game.
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The gore room feels kind of out of place. It's like... Generic RPG dungeon. Generic RPG dungeon. Doom 2016 hellworld. Generic RPG mine. It surprised me a bit. I don't mind it, but it leaves an impression for sure. I don't feel like there's a build up to.... That many fresh corpses. It's like the disposal end of Cabal Co human processing plant. Feliday Melody fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Feb 3, 2024 |
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I kind of love how little is actually done with that room. It's purely an interconnecting passage that will have absolutely nothing in it most of the time, but at the same time you're unlikely to forget it. The best of any genre, from horror to tragedy to comedy, will catch you off guard like that every now and again.
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How many fresh corpses are there in that room anyway? A thousand? Probably more. It feels more like a magic illusion to mess with my head than a room that actually exists in the otherwise abandoned dungeon. It's too alive. Too many colours. It mocks me. I'm going insane seeing it. I will never forget it.
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"You feel your sanity decline with every passing moment..." Ironically, despite how little there is in that room, it is also where I've gotten the most game overs during this LP due to trying to recruit Nas'hrah without the Cube of The Depths. The fun things that can happen when you're thrown off your game plan by random events like the slaughtered village.
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I have some medical training and gauging experience. I did some rough estimates. I couldn't find a clean map, so I had to settle for the wiki one. No less than 840 corpses. Assuming minimal levels of mutilation and decay (big "if" I say) Otherwise, there could be more. I rounded everything down at every opportunity. Buckman. You have been here for at least a week. The top layer ones are not that old. How did you miss mentioning this massive logistical effort? Where did all these people come from? Who processed this effort? The 5 guards up top? Magic? I am going insane. Feliday Melody fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Feb 3, 2024 |
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It's still funny that with Cahara being the default model in a lot of cases, so many of the models look like clones of him in various states of having their poo poo wrecked. I suppose it's fitting that he's the one who gets his poo poo wrecked by the God of Fear and Hunger.
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Can the poisonous potions sold by the merchant at the start of the game. Be used on bosses?
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Unfortunately no, those are purely intended as beginner's traps to screw you over. Purple Vials are the poison potion you can use on bosses. Seldom are people able to get the books to craft those on a run.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKPdfimX2o Part 12 is out! There are no extra notes for this video, you just have to experience it. But that's not all, it's Second Video Saturday! That means we also have our first Hard mode run for your viewing pleasure, and because I did it off the back of the previous recording and was already burning out on commentary, it's scuffed and messy as hell! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5FU08Zx7Q Part 13 features D'arce as our protagonist once more, and we speed towards her exclusive S Ending in Hard mode, The True God Of Fear & Hunger! This does not result in the birth of The True God of Fear & Hunger. This is by far the fastest "real" ending to get in the game and is another speedrunning staple. We'll have extra notes for this video of course, but two questions to answer before we get to that. How Do You Get This Ending? There is a two step process to getting this ending. 1.) Collect the instructions to craft the scroll to teach you Rebirth of the Beloved. There are 3 Torn Instructions items you need to grab to accomplish this, all located in the Grand Library of Past Ma'habre. They can be found at the following locations, -The stack of journals by the cage in the southeastern entrance to the Library. (It's the room below the experiment room that has the ritual circle in the present) This journal will always say the same thing, but you can grab a Torn Instructions from it if D'arce is in the party on Hard mode. (Note the phrasing there) -In Valteil's chamber, to the right of the second to last ladder leading to his boss battle. Valteil himself can be ignored. -In the main entrance foyer of the Grand Library, it'll be in the bookshelves on the second pillar to the right of the entrance. Grab all these, craft the spell scroll, and learn Rebirth of The Beloved from it. 2.) Confirm Le'garde's body. If you know Rebirth of The Beloved, D'arce will proceed to use it on him when examining him again. That's all. This ending can easily be gotten within 15 minutes if you know what you're doing. Is It Canon? Maybe? Certain events in Termina all but confirm Le'garde made it out of the dungeons in some capacity, but whether it was this way or the Void is up for debate. I'm skeptical the resurrection played out exactly as it does in this ending for a variety of reasons, but I can't rule out that something like this occurred. Unique Items Available Rebirth of The Beloved: This is the unique skill I did not elaborate on in the original Hidden Skills post. The instructions to learn this spell only appear on Hard mode, and only if D'arce is in the party. I word it like that because it is actually possible to get D'arce in your party in Hard mode regardless of who you play as. The game has what are known as Dev Spots, which are essentially debug tiles. These do a variety of things, but the one in the time stamped video linked puts Ragnvaldr and D'arce in your party. (Or just D'arce if you are playing as Ragnvaldr) They are fully functional as if you recruited them normally, and D'arce specifically allows you to get Rebirth of The Beloved if she is present. Learning and using the spell as a different main character will result in their S Ending playing out, logic be damned. This is its own speed run category known as WRONG END%. Naturally the dev spots are tantamount to cheating, so I won't be using them, but they are available if you'd like to make things easier on yourself. Extra Notes -Your equipment matters very little in this run. The Arm Guards load out is better if you end up squaring off against Guards in the prison, but the Leg Guards loadout gives you much better survivability against Yellow Mages. It's up to you what's more important, but there's more pressure on to actually fight the mages. -Soul stones do not matter in this run since the Ending is obtained on Level 7 with no need to backtrack beyond that. As such, you do not need Blood Portal for this run. -You can check on Le'garde before getting the instructions but there's not much reason to. Crow Mauler can burst through the wall like the Kool Aid man just outside Le'garde's cell on Hard Mode, so it's really just needless risk to go there before despawning him. -You don't need to loot too much in this run, but it's still worth your time if you get lucky with securing a Cursed weapon like I did. -If you're willing to just soak up the field Hurting spells from the Yellow Mages, this ending can be obtained with zero combat encounters, making it the only ending besides E where that's possible.
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Unfortunately, the videos you linked to show off the alternate Trotur/Buckman scene, plus the assortment showing off things relating to the Girl, are all gone. The associated YouTube account has been deleted. 
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MechaCrash posted:Unfortunately, the videos you linked to show off the alternate Trotur/Buckman scene, plus the assortment showing off things relating to the Girl, are all gone. The associated YouTube account has been deleted. welp. Good thing I don't link to those in the OP. That's actually pretty unfortunate, NoCommentary had a playlist with all the Dungeon Nights endings that I planned to share so people could see those. Hopefully the account gets reinstated, but who knows. That must have just happened today because they were fine last night. I was even using the video he had posted for the Crow Mauler Dungeon Nights route while I was recording that just 6 hours ago. CullenDaGaDee fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 4, 2024 |
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quote:Is It Canon? There is an easter egg in Termina about this. If you cast the spell Rot from the God of Fear and Hunger on Le'garde alone, his flesh rots off to strongly resemble the flesh of his form here.
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Tallgeese posted:There is an easter egg in Termina about this. I do know about that Easter Egg, but I'm going to be "that guy" and dispute it! Nas'hrah strongly implies that there was Blood Magic trickery involved in the fight, and that you did not actually kill the Kaiser if you're playing as O'ssa. It's my personal belief that the Kaiser in that fight is actually a disguised and remotely manipulated Blood Golem, and the Rot spell dispels the disguise.
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While googling maps for this game I found this. https://www.artstation.com/artwork/039Voy  Darcy raising a blood golem I think? I haven't even started looking into fan art for this game. I wonder what people like...
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Fan art for this game is half attempts to maintain the aesthetics, and half shitposts like this.
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I should have watched the chapter 13 video before speculating on what the fan art was supposed to be, haha. Wow, that was some ending... Darcy... wow. I need to stare into space for a while and contemplate my feelings on Darcy.
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D'arce's kind of a stealth freak and I appreciate that about her; she's not my favorite (the nature of Funger writing means she's a bit flat for me) but she's hosed up in a kind of fun way when you add in her S ending.
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Contemplation done. Darcy cool.
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Truthfully, I'm not really a fan of how D'arce comes across as an NPC. She's always struck me as far more weak willed than you'd expect someone with a militant background to be, and I never cared for how she's almost completely secondary to Le'garde. Even her flashback in the dream of the Endless mostly focuses on Le'garde and his ambition.
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She feels very human to me. And I say that as the most weak willed militant that anyone ever encountered.  Maybe she's just feels very familiar.
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CullenDaGaDee posted:Even her flashback in the dream of the Endless mostly focuses on Le'garde and his ambition. Yeah, the Endless dream not giving her some personal spotlight she doesn't have to share is a missed opportunity to flesh her out. I understand wanting to keep cutscenes length from being too much since it's probably the longest set of cutscenes in the game and you'll probably see it a fair bit but she specifically suffers notably for it. Setting up some of the darker sides of her devotion-verging-on-obsession before her S ending would have been good.
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Feliday Melody posted:She feels very human to me. And I say that as the most weak willed militant that anyone ever encountered. That's fair, relatability goes a long was for resonating with a character. I don't particularly relate to D'arce so it's hard for me to get into her mindset on things. I resonate more with Cahara's independent nature and free-wheeling nature so it's part of why he's my favorite character. With this being said, it's probably for the best that you steer clear of dubious necromantic rituals and for everyone else to watch their wallets when I'm around. Like Clockwork posted:Yeah, the Endless dream not giving her some personal spotlight she doesn't have to share is a missed opportunity to flesh her out. I understand wanting to keep cutscenes length from being too much since it's probably the longest set of cutscenes in the game and you'll probably see it a fair bit but she specifically suffers notably for it. Setting up some of the darker sides of her devotion-verging-on-obsession before her S ending would have been good. I feel like the easiest way to do it would have just been to give them separate scenes found at different locations in the dream, but I suppose that also runs the risk of detracting from demonstrating their relationship prior to the dungeon. Then again, considering the scene we do have mostly consists of Le'garde blowing off everything D'arce says, maybe it wouldn't have mattered that much.
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I think "D'arce's big important exposition wad during the dream of a dead god is entirely about Legarde" says some things about her too. On an unrelated note, a thing I've been thinking about: given how early it is to encounter, is it worth it to risk the coin flip and hit the Bunnymask orgy twice and just max out your Sylvian affinity right away? I'd think the biggest cost is just "you're giving up your guaranteed full HP restore," and while it's assuming that you're going to use a Lesser Soul to get the AOE heal, that seems a reasonably solid bet anyway.
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It's worth it to save scum the second affinity boost from the orgy in a normal playthrough, but it's not worth it to risk at the start of the playthrough. Remember, it takes two lesser souls to get Healing Whispers since you need to learn either Loving Whispers or Pheromones first, so you're not liable to have resources to actually get the spell right away. May as well save it for later when you can do it with no risk and actually have the required resources to benefit from doing it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVtDikuIOk Part 14 is out, in which we get Cahara's exclusive ending! This was almost a really clean run that had everything I wanted except for one disaster that appeared about a third of the way through. It wasn't a huge deal in the long run, but it was definitely an annoying bit of forced improvisation I've had to deal with. It's wild to say this, but the LP is almost over. If all goes to plan next weekend, I will be recording the last two videos for this series. The ultimate challenges available in the game, Enki and Ragnvaldr's S Ending. I'll more than likely employ a little cheese to expedite Enki's playthrough if the game is willing, but I plan to do a mostly honest run for Ragnvaldr's S Ending. Look forward to that. How Do You Get This Ending? Cahara's ending is definitely on the shorter side of playthroughs you can do in this game, but it's considerably more complex than D'arce's. The following things need to be done, 1.) Reach the Level 7 Catacombs to spawn Isayah, and of course grab the Cube of The Depths along the way. 2.) Buy the treasure maps from Isayah, do not kill him to steal them. This will require 50 Silver Coins. 40 of those can be gotten from Buckman, the remaining can either be gotten from Cahara's backstory or you can try to depend on loot RNG. 3.) Locate both of the treasures. Upon obtaining your second treasure, Isayah will ambush you in an attempt to steal the treasures from you. Kill him in this fight, and when you loot his body you will get Map #3. 4.) Enter the Old Passage. You will either need to solve the statue puzzle in the Tomb of The Gods to get the Old passage key or simply Empty Scroll the key into your inventory. Follow the map to where it leads to in the Old Passage and claim the King's Crown. 5.) Confirm Le'garde's death. This can be done at any time in the run, but it's safest and most efficient to just do it as you leave the Ancient City. 6.) Return to the Entrance Courtyard and leave through the mist. Do all this, and you will obtain the sardonically named "Happy Ending", likely in around 30-40 minutes of playtime. Is it Canon? Ha ha. No. This is the one S ending that almost assuredly did not happen by the time of Termina, in any capacity. Someone had to escort The Girl to the depths, and the other characters have more concrete evidence pointing to their ultimate fates, leaving Cahara as the privileged ascendant attendee. While some people like to theorize that maybe Cahara was ultimately spared death and escaped, even I think that's a little too idealistic and he most likely just died in the wake of the God of Fear & Hunger. Admittedly, Termina does have a broad strokes approach to the outcome of this game, where there are a couple conflicting events that nevertheless happened in Canon, but given the tone of the series it's very unlikely Cahara escaped the dungeons with his life. Unique Items Available Map #3: Should you choose to purchase the maps from Isayah instead of stealing them, you gain the potential to access this map. Simply defeat Isayah when he ambushes you, and search his body for it. You can obtain this map in any mode, but it is pointless to do so outside of Cahara's Hard mode. King's Crown: The treasure of the final map, this is the main thing you need to get Cahara's S ending. Once you confirm Le'garde's death, you can skeedaddle with this pricey bauble and secure Cahara's fortune. Sadly money only goes so far in treating severe PTSD and inflated paranoia. Extra Notes -I would recommend taking at least one of the money options in Cahara's backstory, but it's up to you if you want to forgo Escape Plan or a utility skill like Lockpicking. I was confident enough to go in without Escape Plan, and if not for one random event that would have been the completely correct choice. -You can go through the Basement 100% guaranteed if you have Lockpicking, but since we want to save Buckman for the reward money and I wanted to learn En Garde, it was more efficient to take the front entrance and risk a fight with the Jaggedjaws. Since it's right at the start, I can easily reset if I screw up and get mauled. -Like D'arce's run, there's not much point to learn Blood Portal. It's a little more useful here, but I don't think the time it would save is all that much and En Garde is more helpful overall. -This was almost a really clean run, so of course I got the slaughtered village event to throw me off my game plan and force messy improvisations. This is the third time I've gotten this event in the course of producing this LP, which is some phenomenally bad luck. -I mention this in the video, but it's important to note that Isayah spawns when you reach the Catacombs. (Possibly he spawns sooner than that, but there's not much reason to backtrack to the Entrance until you reach the Catacombs) It's often falsely stated you need to find Le'garde to get him to spawn. -Don't jerk Isayah around. If you're unable to afford the maps, he will leave the Dungeon after a certain amount of time passes. Absolutely do not talk to him unless you have the money for the maps, or the ending risks becoming unobtainable. -If you have really bad luck with Explosive vials, you can get the guaranteed one from the Level 6 mines. This will require evading Miner Spectres, but it's easy enough to do if you're careful. -It's far from necessary to Empty Scroll the Old Passage Key, it's just easier and a lot faster. I've already shown off the puzzle, so I figured I'd just Scroll the key if I had the opportunity. -The King's Crown can be obtained in any mode, but it only has a purpose in Hard mode. In lower difficulties, if Cahara is in the party and you grab it, he will ask you if you will give it to him. Refuse, and he will flee the party at the next screen transition with the crown in tow. Give it to him, and he'll stick by you in gratitude. -Even though obtaining the crown seemingly implies you can leave right away, you do need to confirm Le'garde's death before Cahara is willing to leave the dungeon.
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Cahara didn't just spontaneously regenerate his arm for banging, he also did so for En Garde. As for him doing the job he was paid for before skedaddling, I imagine that a big reason for him seeing the job through is because his paymasters would want to have some rather pointed words with him about his breach of contract, delivered via shady men in the middle of the night with assorted sharp objects and toxic substances. And the poor fucker's PTSD from going into that nightmare realm is bad enough as it is, no need for it to actually be justified too.
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Hey, he also regenerated his arm for the ending picture, too! Funny thing is that with how badly the S run kept getting hampered here, it helps contribute to the PTSD!
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I feel like the whole limb loss mechanic is strictly a gameplay thing and is generally not considered as a legitimate lifelong handicap for the character in story. Funnily enough, this run actually did go about as well as it could, with the only setback being the Moonless Guards in the cavedwellers village. I fumbled pretty bad there due to being unprepared for it. CullenDaGaDee fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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It's a weird conflict where the organic storytelling of limb loss conflicts with the reasonable storytelling limitation that you can't account for it due to its inherently random nature. It's unavoidable, but I'm just poking fun at it.
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Yeah it's definitely something you're not supposed to think too hard about, and is one of a handful of acceptable breaks from reality to keep the game more playable. Losing two arms and just dying due to shock and blood loss is a lot interesting than having to contend with some of the handicaps such a condition would impose.
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Would it be difficult to program away save scumming? Like, determine all the game's coin flips at the start of the game? I remember thinking about this in fallout 4 where you could quick-save mid conversation and just retry speech checks over and over again. It felt like something the game could just wrap up from the start. If anything. Just to protect players from having to consider optimal save scumming. Which undermines the fun a bit.
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Feliday Melody posted:Would it be difficult to program away save scumming? It depends on how the game is written. There are games that have both modes as an option, but that kind of ability has to be planned pretty early in the game writing process otherwise it is a lot of work.
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Regarding ending A The God of Fear and Hungers final words read very much as freeing whoever is responsible for it's ascension from all the misery they've accumulated through the dungeons via merciful death compared to a long miserable life outside of it should they have somehow managed to survive. Whether this is related to the Little Girl having some remnant of affection for the MC or not is up to you
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Did part 12 and 13 just never show up in the notifications for anyone else?
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So because NoCommentary's channel has gone the way of the dinosaur and I have no more supplemental posts to write, I kind of had my plans scattered for keeping the thread updated during the week days. I'll see what other interesting trivia I can dig up without a video repository, but in the meantime if you're interested in more Fear & Hunger goodness, I do have archived stream VODs of my first successful clears of Ragnvaldr and Enki's S Endings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7PjXXO3pWI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yQr8H4p6RE Commentary is pretty lifeless for these as I was more focused on completing my planned route and only really planned to talk a lot if there were chatters (which there were none), but there are a handful of amusing moments when I get caught off guard. The Ragnvaldr run in particular was not only my first attempt but also my first time encountering the slaughtered village event. Hopefully I can deliver cleaner and more lively clears of these endings this weekend.
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No trivia for today, but I would like to mention that Lazy Sauer, the creator of the bear pajama mod for The Girl, is also working on a protagonist Girl mod. In addition to bringing The Girl's abilities more in line with the rest of the cast, they've made a ton of effort in creating new sprites to accommodate for every situation The Girl could be in. Sadly it seems progress on the mod has hit a hiatus, but we did get to the point where we have these delightful placeholder animations for any action that would put Sauer on a watchlist if The Girl did them.  
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I've enjoyed this series a lot, and I'm going to miss it once it wraps up. I started watching the Silent Hill lets plays, and they are very good too.
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Thank you! I'm glad those videos ended up finding an audience at some point or another. I actually do have a small bit of trivia today that may or may not become relevant in the next video. In Part 11, I used Empty Scrolls to get the required Souls to pass the Nameless Figurine's trial. While this is necessary for Ending B and Ending A, since you need to access the present Golden Temple to cut the final organ, it is not at all required for Endings D and C, and by extension Enki's Ending S. You can simply Empty Scroll the King's Passage Key into your inventory and access the Past Golden Temple that way, as the throne of Ascension does not actually care if you have the required souls to sit upon it. While Enki's S ending does have a bit of run around, including the fact that Valteil is a required fight in that route, standard runs of the game can beat the game this way in under 10 minutes with the right item RNG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8qAw6SY_w
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Your videos gave me an interest in lets plays, and I've been looking up ones for games that I had no chance to play when I was young. And games that I own but can't find the energy to get through on my own. But finding your style of LPs can be very hard. https://i.imgur.com/WbE61rQ.mp4 YouTube is a rough landscape for artists, I suspect.
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