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Watching the John Adams series and in the bit in episode 3 where he's in the Netherlands, right before he gets sick and starts hallucinating, and when the scene is immersing you in all things Dutch, the camera does this poo poo lol  ok
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Escobarbarian posted:I’m still losing my mind over it honestly. It’s like a 75 year old grandma decided to register an account Snidely posting about posters instead is somehow even more pathetic than some goon being a little uncomfortable about a show. Shocking. Ah wait, Esco has always been a dimwitted bully more interested in frothing rage posts over reasonably discussing things. Not shocking!
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Apr 26, 2024 03:54
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shirunei posted:Snidely posting about posters quote:Ah wait, Esco has always been a dimwitted bully 
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Apr 26, 2024 04:10
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Not trying to be funny…not trying to ruin anyone’s day but….I never got the concept of having to have a character to root for or making moralistic judgements bout the character of, uh, characters. They’re fake they can’t “have borderline personality disorder”. Like i get that there is media where you do feel like, and are intended to, root for a guy to win, and thats dun, but not everything has to be like that. but really all I care about is “is this entertaining, to me” Basically, me but change the nFL shield to TV https://twitter.com/JonHuck/status/1358479894674509825 zoux fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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Apr 26, 2024 04:45
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Tom Ripley is one of the most famous psychopaths/murderers in literature
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Apr 26, 2024 05:18
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Media is the only church most of us attend. I see both merit in your detachment and in people who do not wish to fill their heads with the fictional words and deeds of bad people. I also suspect that everyone is not as good as quarantining reality and fiction, especially these days when so much of reality is fiction based. Considering people can easily remember fiction as a true memory and history and it's cool and good that some people bail instead of absorbing bad folks and attitudes that get pushed in with the rest.
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Apr 26, 2024 05:22
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Apr 26, 2024 05:24
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Tom Ripley is one of the most famous psychopaths/murderers in literature Well his trailer was really boring
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Apr 26, 2024 05:25
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Wait, Ripley ISN'T the shocking true story behind the creation of legendary television show Ripley's Believe It...or Not? 
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Apr 26, 2024 05:40
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I thought it’s a sci-fi thing???
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Apr 26, 2024 08:37
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Watched the first episode of Ripley and it’s interesting so far. I only know about the movie with Matt D and Mr Law but so far I’m liking where the show is going with the story. I’m not convinced with the black and white but it’s a choice.
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Apr 26, 2024 08:47
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Mokotow posted:I thought it’s a sci-fi thing??? Speculative fiction: why would a super bored socialite invite movie star attractive male, Andrew Scott into their home, even though he's in his thirties???? The answer may confound you
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Apr 26, 2024 08:52
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Escobarbarian posted:Honestly the stalker is so annoying, I’d tell her to gently caress off immediately The show really is about why he can't do that
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Apr 26, 2024 09:32
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shirunei posted:Snidely posting about posters instead is somehow even more pathetic than some goon being a little uncomfortable about a show. Shocking. Boy I wonder who this is an alt for
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Apr 26, 2024 12:34
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The OP was a blatant troll post and I'm shocked people fell for it
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Apr 26, 2024 13:28
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zoux posted:Not trying to be funny…not trying to ruin anyone’s day but….I never got the concept of having to have a character to root for or making moralistic judgements bout the character of, uh, characters. They’re fake they can’t “have borderline personality disorder”. Like i get that there is media where you do feel like, and are intended to, root for a guy to win, and thats dun, but not everything has to be like that. but really all I care about is “is this entertaining, to me” Ultimately it’s a good thing that there is something for everyone, I’m never going to watch Breaking Bad or Sopranos but I’m happy that they are there for the people who like watching terrible people doing terrible things.
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Apr 26, 2024 13:40
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Oasx posted:Ultimately it’s a good thing that there is something for everyone, I’m never going to watch Breaking Bad or Sopranos but I’m happy that they are there for the people who like watching terrible people doing terrible things. Yeah, it's interesting -- I'm rewatching Breaking Bad through with a mate and he's just not compelled by a lot of it. There's no tension in the main story because he just can't relate to Walt and sees his villainy and cruelty as a foregone conclusion from the off, if not already seriously present in the narrative to a degree in which he can't sympathise. If he's there for anyone he's there for Skylar and Marie, which essentially puts him in diametric opposition to the way a lot of people watch the show. Similarly, while I recognise that The Sopranos is a very finely crafted show, it's also one that I really struggle to enjoy in any way shape or form -- except when it's being absurd. A lot of the central dramas / discussions around the show were groundbreaking, but they're like BraBad in that they're already solved issues for me, and the Italian and mob film cultural elements are so foreign to me that it often became more hard work than I wanted when piecing the narrative together. Like, I get that it's in communication with Goodfellas etc. but I've never seen a mobster film. I just fundamentally lack the attraction to them, in the same way that my friends just fundamentally lacks the kind of Batman fantasy that powers Breaking Bad. So the central tensions that power the show (identification and revulsion with the main character) are fundamentally uncompelling, I just have no identification with Tony. But we both watch something like YOU or Ripley and get it, because they're using antisocial fantasies and genre elements to talk about alienation and dissociation, and that I get.
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Apr 26, 2024 14:04
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Five minutes into Netflix's Dead Boy Detective's adaptation and I can see this is continuing their habit of delivering absolutely woeful exposition in their tentpole productions. Jesus, I think every line is a new piece of compactly delivered "as you know" style information, and then they've dubbed more over the top because that somehow wasn't clear enough.
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Apr 26, 2024 15:03
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Open Source Idiom posted:Five minutes into Netflix's Dead Boy Detective's adaptation and I can see this is continuing their habit of delivering absolutely woeful exposition in their tentpole productions. Jesus, I think every line is a new piece of compactly delivered "as you know" style information, and then they've dubbed more over the top because that somehow wasn't clear enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir3zL1bM3kg
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Apr 26, 2024 15:07
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Open Source Idiom posted:Yeah, it's interesting -- I'm rewatching Breaking Bad through with a mate and he's just not compelled by a lot of it. There's no tension in the main story because he just can't relate to Walt and sees his villainy and cruelty as a foregone conclusion from the off, if not already seriously present in the narrative to a degree in which he can't sympathise. If he's there for anyone he's there for Skylar and Marie, which essentially puts him in diametric opposition to the way a lot of people watch the show. I finished BB finally last year and felt pretty similar to your friend. Walt just sucks so much it's hard to ever want anything but bad happen to him. Jesse sucks too but there are moments up to a point where I feel real empathy for him and just want him out of Walt's mess.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:15
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Escobarbarian posted:I’m still losing my mind over it honestly. It’s like a 75 year old grandma decided to register an account It's how my dad watches TV and movies. If he can't "root for" anyone, he hates it. He also hates any TV show or movie that doesn't have a happy ending. And as a matter of fact, he's a 74 year old grandfather, so that checks out. But he's always been that way. Hates Goodfellas because he doesn't "like" anyone in it. I've always adjusted my recommendations to him accordingly.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:23
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I don't have to sympathize with anyone in a TV show or movie, but I do have to be interested in them. Gangster stuff I have a tough time with, not because they're morally reprehensible, but because largely they're uninteresting losers. So in that sense I don't like Goodfellas because I don't like any of the characters.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:35
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thrawn527 posted:It's how my dad watches TV and movies. If he can't "root for" anyone, he hates it. He also hates any TV show or movie that doesn't have a happy ending. This attitude always feels really American to me, UK TV is absolutely packed with people who you're meant to look down on rather than empathise with.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:36
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Taear posted:This attitude always feels really American to me, UK TV is absolutely packed with people who you're meant to look down on rather than empathise with. Lol that attitude feels really British to me
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Apr 26, 2024 16:40
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British are really good at punching down.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:41
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Taear posted:This attitude always feels really American to me, UK TV is absolutely packed with people who you're meant to look down on rather than empathise with. Stephen Fry has commented on this before, and the example he gives from Animal House is perfect. (It's a short video, about 4 minutes.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2AbqTBxao
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Apr 26, 2024 16:45
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zoux posted:Lol that attitude feels really British to me Yea it is, not saying it's a good thing but it's funny to me how media landscapes shape what's around and how people relate to what they see. thrawn527 posted:Stephen Fry has commented on this before, and the example he gives from Animal House is perfect. (It's a short video, about 4 minutes.) is there a summary written? I cannot watch a video.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:47
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Taear posted:Yea it is, not saying it's a good thing but it's funny to me how media landscapes shape what's around and how people relate to what they see. You know the scene in Animal House where Belushi's character is coming down the stairs and sees a folk singer playing the guitar? And he grabs the guitar and smashes it? And then wags his eyebrows? A British comedian would want to play the folk singer. American comedians always want to be smart, non-stop quip machines. British comedians are always looked down on, and are down trodden losers.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:50
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Basically the great British comic characters are all sad losers and great American comic characters are Chad quip machines.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:51
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art imitates life
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Apr 26, 2024 16:51
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yeah that's great, and explains the difference between Seinfeld and Peep Show
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Apr 26, 2024 16:56
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Tho if you want to talk about sad sacks who think they're not, George Constanza is the prime example of this.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:57
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Even sadsack loser George scores regularly with incredibly hot women. Mark Corrigan is the most miserable bastard in London.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:57
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zoux posted:Even sadsack loser George scores regularly with incredibly hot women. Mark Corrigan is the most miserable bastard in London. lol you're right. has a pretty good job by the end too.
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Apr 26, 2024 16:59
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thrawn527 posted:You know the scene in Animal House where Belushi's character is coming down the stairs and sees a folk singer playing the guitar? And he grabs the guitar and smashes it? And then wags his eyebrows? A British comedian would want to play the folk singer. Yea that make sense to me. It definitely extends beyond comedy though
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Apr 26, 2024 17:04
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thrawn527 posted:Stephen Fry has commented on this before, and the example he gives from Animal House is perfect. (It's a short video, about 4 minutes.) Uh doesn't he get the religious metaphor backwards? He ascribes the distinction to American Protestantism and its focus on success through "works" as opposed to European doctrinal belief and acceptance of "original sin". Wasn't "works" the whole Catholic thing that Evangelicalism rejects, by saying "faith alone" is necessary for salvation? Or is he drawing a different kind of axis of division entirely? I kept expecting him to list Arthur Dent in his examples, or Bernard Black or Father Ted
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Apr 26, 2024 17:05
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zoux posted:Basically the great British comic characters are all sad losers and great American comic characters are Chad quip machines. A really great example of this is the American attempt at Red Dwarf. A lot of the jokes about Lister are that he's a bum and kind of a loser while American Lister was too Han Solo-y.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:43
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Data Graham posted:Uh doesn't he get the religious metaphor backwards? He ascribes the distinction to American Protestantism and its focus on success through "works" as opposed to European doctrinal belief and acceptance of "original sin". Wasn't "works" the whole Catholic thing that Evangelicalism rejects, by saying "faith alone" is necessary for salvation? Or is he drawing a different kind of axis of division entirely? I mean American protestantism is such a weird patchwork it could mean anything, but right now anything religious in the States centers, at least politically, in money equals grace. i think the biggest split is the cultural background of winner take all, you're on your own realization which is America's baseline and entire promise.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:52
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American Christianity was always going to be weird. An ocean removed from its roots, far from the kingdoms that controlled it for so long, imported by the worst Europe had to offer. It has no place here and carving one out for it has left a bleeding network of unhealing wounds.
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I prefer murals of Asian Jesus personally.
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