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Civil War was fine, it ignoring the actual politics of the war is fine
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I've been rewatching older Best of the Worst and I miss Jessi 
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Apr 17, 2024 21:25
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colonelwest posted:I get not wanting to wade into America’s terrible politics and make the reasons behind the war “something something Orange Man”, but then maybe don’t make a movie about a second American Civil War. It a huge cop out and just boring to have civil war that features no discernible political goals. I mean not everything needs deep or real world politics. “It would be fun if machine guns and poo poo in American landmarks or whatever. Also the political message will be ‘woah like, we shouldn’t be so divided’ or something” is totally fine for a movie. Froghammer posted:I've been rewatching older Best of the Worst and I miss Jessi Jessi and Rich going loving ballistic when Shoji Tabuchi appears is just magical
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Apr 17, 2024 21:26
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colonelwest posted:I get not wanting to wade into America’s terrible politics and make the reasons behind the war “something something Orange Man”, but then maybe don’t make a movie about a second American Civil War. It a huge cop out and just boring to have civil war that features no discernible political goals. Hand-waving the politics could have made sense like 40 years ago or something if you wanted to narrow the focus for artistic reasons, but yeah once you get the right-wing militia stuff rising in the 90s it becomes impossible to ignore the politics, and its only gotten worse since then.
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Apr 17, 2024 21:45
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Yeah Civil War had zero things to say about rightwing nationalists lol
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Apr 17, 2024 21:46
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There's seriously one line about Kirsten Dunst's character getting a career in war photography because she took a picture of "the Antifa massacre" that went viral, but nothing beyond that. You have no idea why the different factions are the way they are or why they're fighting each other. This could have been easily explained in a title card at the very beginning.
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Apr 17, 2024 21:51
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Just tell me if the Texifornian Empire wins or not
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Apr 17, 2024 21:53
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my lib dad thought Civil War was chilling and the evil president was definitely Donald trump even though they couldn't say that
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Apr 17, 2024 21:57
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We have the technology. The civil war bluray should make you take a short quiz before it plays, where you answer what policies or politicians you like/dislike. The movie will then have different audio where the good characters will all agree with the viewer and the bad characters won’t. Finally an actual advancement in cinema
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Apr 17, 2024 22:11
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since i've only seen the twitter rip is the ending where one of the journalist demands a quote from the president cowering on the floor of the oval office right before his summary execution real because lmao
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Apr 17, 2024 22:11
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henkman posted:Civil War was fine, it ignoring the actual politics of the war is fine Gutcruncher posted:Also the political message will be ‘woah like, we shouldn’t be so divided’ or something” is totally fine for a movie. no it isn't you knuckle-dragging evolutionary dead ends. not for a movie that positions itself as gritty and realistic, that deliberately utilizes the markers of online political extremists in its marketing. if you're going to make a movie about society collapsing and drain it of any connection to the real world, it needs to be a farce. the lead should be played by a known comic actor and the violence should be played for laughs. civil war should have been written by tim burton and directed by roland emmerich.
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Apr 17, 2024 22:12
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I probably would have watched that
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Apr 17, 2024 22:13
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kalel posted:no it isn't you knuckle-dragging evolutionary dead ends. not for a movie that positions itself as gritty and realistic, that deliberately utilizes the markers of online political extremists in its marketing. if you're going to make a movie about society collapsing and drain it of any connection to the real world, it needs to be a farce. the lead should be played by a known comic actor and the violence should be played for laughs. civil war should have been written by tim burton and directed by roland emmerich. Danny Elfman score and you've got me.
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Apr 17, 2024 22:18
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kalel posted:no it isn't you knuckle-dragging evolutionary dead ends. not for a movie that positions itself as gritty and realistic, that deliberately utilizes the markers of online political extremists in its marketing. if you're going to make a movie about society collapsing and drain it of any connection to the real world, it needs to be a farce. the lead should be played by a known comic actor and the violence should be played for laughs. civil war should have been written by tim burton and directed by roland emmerich. There’s room in the world for actual political drama and for “woah machine guns and splosions with a kinda real world coat of paint wowee!” With that said yeah I’d watch the gently caress out of Tim Burton and Roland Emmerich’s civil war
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Apr 17, 2024 22:18
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"I want to make a movie about how the nuances of political discourse from both sides tends to fall by the wayside once real war breaks out, and to show how people tend to reprioritize what's important when their life is on the line. I will show this by not having my characters espouse their politics and instead have them stay focused on their noble jobs of and recording these unprecedented times for posterity." Kalel: NO!
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Apr 17, 2024 22:20
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Raskolnikov38 posted:since i've only seen the twitter rip is the ending where one of the journalist demands a quote from the president cowering on the floor of the oval office right before his summary execution real The end credits play over a picture of the dead President with the soldiers who killed him standing around him smiling
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Apr 17, 2024 22:20
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Rageaholic posted:Yep lol Okay im seeing this in imax asap
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Apr 17, 2024 22:21
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between that and the hilariously stupid death of one of the journalists moments before they capture the president makes civil war seem like terrific schlock
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Apr 17, 2024 22:24
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the more I hear about civil war the more it sounds like a Neil Breen joint
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Apr 17, 2024 22:30
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Canadian money is worth more than the USD and that's how you know that Civil War is a fantasy movie.
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Apr 17, 2024 22:31
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:the more I hear about civil war the more it sounds like a Neil Breen joint
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Apr 17, 2024 22:33
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Isn't Civil war the one where Ant Man got really big and punched an airplane or something? Was it really also Air Force One? Oh man I didn't know Ant Man had the balls to do THAT!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 17, 2024 22:37
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The civil war movie poster showed a sniper nest in the torch of the statue of liberty, which would be a terrible sniper position. Just pure incompetence on behalf of the marketing team.
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Apr 17, 2024 22:40
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Rageaholic posted:Neil Breen joints are actually funny though it's like lynch's dune where they didn't give him final cut and everything's hosed
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Apr 17, 2024 22:43
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i hope the guns n roses song plays over the credits because its poo poo
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Apr 17, 2024 22:45
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jeeves posted:Isn't Civil war the one where Ant Man got really big and punched an airplane or something? lol
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Apr 17, 2024 22:51
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kalel posted:no it isn't you knuckle-dragging evolutionary dead ends. not for a movie that positions itself as gritty and realistic, that deliberately utilizes the markers of online political extremists in its marketing. if you're going to make a movie about society collapsing and drain it of any connection to the real world, it needs to be a farce. the lead should be played by a known comic actor and the violence should be played for laughs. civil war should have been written by tim burton and directed by roland emmerich. sure okay posted:"I want to make a movie about how the nuances of political discourse from both sides tends to fall by the wayside once real war breaks out, and to show how people tend to reprioritize what's important when their life is on the line. I will show this by not having my characters espouse their politics and instead have them stay focused on their noble jobs of and recording these unprecedented times for posterity."
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https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1780408929597419857 Raimi's Spider-man movies are just ok, and he hasn't made a particularly interesting movie in over 20 years.
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khwarezm posted:https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1780408929597419857 Although I don't know how I feel about him directing a new one with Tom Holland. His Doctor Strange movie from a couple years ago was just okay at best.
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Apr 17, 2024 23:09
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Rageaholic posted:I would count Raimi's Spider-Man movies as some of the best comic book movies ever made, especially 1 and 2. 3 isn't nearly as good, but it's still more enjoyable to me than the majority of MCU poo poo. I know everybody talks about his first two Spiderman movies as classics nowadays but I've always felt they are mostly held up by great, scenery chewing performances for the villains and some of the side characters, along with with Raimi's characteristic visual verve that works well for a comic book movie, but they always fall down for me regardless because I think the main trio are just really bad interpretations of Peter Parker, MJ and Harry Osborn.
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Apr 17, 2024 23:13
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Sam Raimi getting another spider man sounds like amazing news, but this isn’t 2002. Will his leash be too tight in the modern superhero landscape?
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Apr 17, 2024 23:14
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khwarezm posted:I know everybody talks about his first two Spiderman movies as classics nowadays but I've always felt they are mostly held up by great, scenery chewing performances for the villains and some of the side characters, along with with Raimi's characteristic visual verve that works well for a comic book movie, but they always fall down for me regardless because I think the main trio are just really bad interpretations of Peter Parker, MJ and Harry Osborn.
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Apr 17, 2024 23:15
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Civil War sounds like radical centrism. American centrism, mind you. The kind that's actually right wing because it doesn't speak against the side itching for all sorts of bombings and genocides. khwarezm posted:
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Apr 17, 2024 23:15
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Cubone posted:you are both just explaining why the purge sequels kick so much rear end Anarchy and Election Year both rock. I didn't like The First Purge very much and I haven't seen Forever Purge yet.
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Apr 17, 2024 23:22
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kalel posted:no it isn't you knuckle-dragging evolutionary dead ends. not for a movie that positions itself as gritty and realistic, that deliberately utilizes the markers of online political extremists in its marketing. if you're going to make a movie about society collapsing and drain it of any connection to the real world, it needs to be a farce. the lead should be played by a known comic actor and the violence should be played for laughs. civil war should have been written by tim burton and directed by roland emmerich. I imagined it would be like far cry 5 and be cowards and not actually say anything somehow
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Apr 17, 2024 23:59
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Sam Raimi’s original Spider-Man movie is the film that made me actively avoid all Spider-Man media. It also probably contributed to me avoiding superhero films in general (unless they can be viewed from a “trash sci-fi adventure” aspect, like Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy).
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Apr 18, 2024 00:02
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They don't really hold a special place for me, but the Raimi Spiderman movies are the most comic book movies that ever comic booked. Whether you like that or not is absolutely up to preference. That said, Darkman is his best comic book movie and It's not even close.
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Apr 18, 2024 00:14
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they should start adapting fetish comics. let's see the Crumb Universe of Movies
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Apr 18, 2024 00:24
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kalel posted:they should start adapting fetish comics. It’s called Anime, OP
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Gutcruncher posted:It’s called Anime, OP they only cover fetishes that get you arrested irl
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