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Like, I really do understand it might have been cost-prohibitive to design the bridge to handle that hit without collapsing, but that's a different answer than "this is impossible" maybe this is the quote being referenced? quote:“The preventive measures – the dolphins, the barriers around them – were really not designed to stop a vessel of this size,” he said. “And even when the ship hit those dolphins, the ship was so large it towered over them and actually struck the bridge itself. So there’s very little the ship could do to really prevent this from happening once the power went out.” That's a statement that the dolphins (the berms) on the Key bridge were not big enough to be effective for a ship of this size, and that there was nothing the pilot could do. It's not a statement that larger, better dolphins couldn't have been effective. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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I know Elon musk is evil but I love my model Y. No problems with the build quality, got a nice discount on it, and I spend nothing on gas. There’s tons of free charging all around town and at my office. Now in a few years I’ll look at a rivian. E: I would not go off a sick jump with my model y
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Leperflesh posted:Like, I really do understand it might have been cost-prohibitive to design the bridge to handle that hit without collapsing, but that's a different answer than "this is impossible" I mean sure, you could build the bridge a few miles inland and then that way no ship could bring it down.
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When the same thing happened in Tampa in the 80s they put the reinforcements around the pillars and the rebuild. It happened again and the boat sank.
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Yes the simple answer is that the way to prevent bridge collapses from ship strikes is to put stuff in front of the bridge to prevent the ship from hitting the bridge in the first place. The reason why this wasn’t done for the Key bridge is that it’s 50 years old and the original dolphins are too small to stop the much bigger ships that exist today. Why weren’t they updated? For the same reason lots of bridges need repairs in this country, lack of money assigned to do it. We have the money, we just spend it on things like bullets and missiles instead.
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My understanding is that they also didn’t want to narrow the passage under the bridge to put beefier protections in place, but it’s all just pointless armchair engineering anyway The real galaxy brain move is to just not ram a ship into a bridge in the first place, bing bong
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Currently looking into buying a Bolt EUV , trying to stack the federal and state tax credits. Rented one last weekend for a trip to the coast to really get an idea of the car. Not quite as big as I'd like, and finding/waiting on charging genuinely is a pain in the rear end for road trips. My main worry is the noted battery issue, where they dropped the full charge down by 80% via a software update to prevent any batteries from catching fire. Also cross checking hybrid plug ins with the available credits.
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So how financially hosed is the port of Baltimore? I saw a Union leader mention 2,000 possible jobs lost, but maybe that was inflating the issue angling for government support.
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Freaquency posted:My understanding is that they also didn’t want to narrow the passage under the bridge to put beefier protections in place, but it’s all just pointless armchair engineering anyway Yeah, hence my joke about moving it inland. At some point you can't out engineer the size and depth of the passageway and still call it a bridge. You can build all kinds of things, but you would be limiting traffic and making the water too shallow, so it is better to focus on prevention.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:So how financially hosed is the port of Baltimore? I saw a Union leader mention 2,000 possible jobs lost, but maybe that was inflating the issue angling for government support. The port is closed so I'm sure that's how many people cannot work right now, but the question is for how long will the port be closed. They'll have to complete the investigation (days?) clear the wreckage (weeks?) and then ramp back up into ship traffic moving through (???). Building a new or replacement bridge is years away.
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seiferguy posted:I got a Tesla Model Y as a rental once, and man for a near $50k that interior is bland as gently caress. Tesla is just a front to make money with the valuation it's getting. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 looks and performs better and is nearly $10k less. I just got an Ioniq 5 (lease) and it's nice. Much nicer than the Model Ys I've been in.
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Ether Frenzy posted:If you crash a 200,000 ton container ship into just about anything that isn't a mountain, that object is going to lose that collision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ocTTkHqQcg
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I'm not sure why they would delay trafficking cargo longer than wreckage cleanup takes. You'd think you could align the ramp up schedule with an estimated clearage date, though that's likely expecting more precission than is possible in this situation.
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If everyone working in the port is laid off for months I don't know how long it takes to ramp a port back up, like, get shippers to start routing cargo through. Logistics is complicated, so I don't wanna assume.
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Now that they're talking about who's footing the bill apparently its a precedent from the 1850s that will form the basis. Naval law. Shits old.
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Ether Frenzy posted:Tax money? Being allowed to be used to improve anything? Or hell, even being collected in the first place? What country do you live in? Taxes are for handing out to shell corps for contracts and public-private partnerships. Also tax credits for fraudulent charities.
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BlindSite posted:Now that they're talking about who's footing the bill apparently its a precedent from the 1850s that will form the basis. quote:“It's an old piece of legislation” that produces “a lot of injustices,” says Fulweiler, by capping the ship owner’s liability to a sum equal to the “post-incident value of the vessel” and the earnings it collected from carrying the freight on board. small, if true.
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Shrimpy posted:I just got an Ioniq 5 (lease) and it's nice. Much nicer than the Model Ys I've been in. I had one as a rental and I didn’t like the ev software integration into the default software. It was also my first ev.
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Edit: lol whoops thought this was the NCAA hockey thread
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Arizona, still unable to make a deep run, water wet, etc.
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a neat cape posted:uconn is too good My team is currently losing to a rapist.
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You shouldn't think of the democrats as "your team"
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All this talk of cargo ships has me thinking of MGS2… snake?!?
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From the blessed thread, this is cool as poo poospechtie posted:The Kei Truck Garden Contest (2018)
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Ether Frenzy posted:If you crash a 200,000 ton container ship into just about anything that isn't a mountain, that object is going to lose that collision. Nah, you put enough concrete and rebar into a dolphin, it'll gently caress that 200,000 ton container ship up. The question is simply, do you want to spend the money to do so?
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Ether Frenzy posted:You shouldn't think of the democrats as "your team" I haven't since they killed the public option while Obamacare was being passed.
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a sexual elk posted:From the blessed thread, this is cool as poo poo Thanks for the introduction to a weird subculture I will do a deep dive on later.
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BlindSite posted:Thanks for the introduction to a weird subculture I will do a deep dive on later. I’m about to plant a pine tree in the bed of my bro truck now haha
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Grow a rare maple-leaf oak in the bed of a Cybertruck.
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Air Skwirl posted:I haven't since they killed the public option while Obamacare was being passed. That was almost single-handedly Joe Lieberman. Not to say that they aren't very ineffectual as a governing body on their own, but credit where it's due, etc. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/10/why-lieberman-hates-the-public-option/347740/
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Looking thru my pics a good sized garden should fit    Small children for scale
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My lifted to poo poo 2000 Sierra brodozer is still tiny compared to every newer stock truck, and every single one is a 4 door. Long live the extended cab with suicide half doors
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Great era of trucks, that'll be the next segment of "retro truck" that the resto Land Cruisers and Broncos are now pricing everyone out of.
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Ether Frenzy posted:Great era of trucks, that'll be the next segment of "retro truck" that the resto Land Cruisers and Broncos are now pricing everyone out of. Best part of the truck the dash is all dials, that feeling of clicking the AC one notch up without looking
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I had my lowered bug for a decade and the lifted truck kinda fell into my lap, but honestly I’d would have preferred a lowered truck that was in the weeds
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Ether Frenzy posted:Great era of trucks, that'll be the next segment of "retro truck" that the resto Land Cruisers and Broncos are now pricing everyone out of. Plus I’m up on the mountain so I actually use it, hauling poo poo, shoveling thru snow, clearing driveways
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Bird in a Blender posted:My team is currently losing to a rapist. The Big 10 was mad at the Badger pep band for chanting "no means no" during the Big 10 championship game and threatened to kick them out if they didn't stop. The irony was lost.
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