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Escobarbarian posted:

You can’t just let Nazis co-opt a number lmao. That’s fuckin stupid

The same could be said about them co-opting a symbol of prosperity and longevity, but here we are.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

at the library, renting movies is easy and free

Cheers to my local library system for carrying Western and noir DVDs, jeers for not carrying blu-rays.

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An interesting look at that idea is Take Shelter, where Michael Shannon has dreams of a coming apocalypse so he throws everything he has at building a shelter to weather the storm that’s coming, to the detriment of his wife, community, and his own well-being.

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Baron von Eevl posted:

Great, now gripweed's going to post again in a few weeks about how clever their joke that nobody liked was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEPYkYbXS4

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feedmyleg posted:

They know exactly who rents things from the library, and they are not 30-something Vinegar Syndrome enthusiasts.

What sucks is the rich suburb across the state line has blu-rays and I think even video games to rent, but my city proper’s library doesn’t have hi-def movies except through Kanopy or Hoopla. I love my library and I support them, but c’mon y’all, throw me a bone.

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I think Nicholson’s Joker is way closer to that than Ledger

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This all makes Saltburn sound like a worse version of Society (1989, d.p. Rick Fichter).

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AceOfFlames posted:

A Discord server I'm in suddenly pointed out we are living in the year that Highlander II: The Quickening is set and I'm finding that fact way more amusing than I should.

This is an extremely useless spoiler tag.

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I watched The Cat (1992) last night, and while it takes a bit to get going and never feels quite as feverish as the other stuff I’ve seen from Lam like Riki-Oh or The Seventh Curse, it’s still pretty wild and fun. The junkyard fight between the cat and Lo Pau is bonkers, but I absolutely do not want to know how they filmed it. I’m pretty sure one shot was achieved by just throwing a real cat into a puddle.

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I was just informed that the young girl who can talk to Gamera in the 90s movies is Steven Seagal’s daughter, and I need to go lie down.

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NieR Occomata posted:

A coincidental point I want to make is when people go “oh the movie is actually a huge metaphor for (something about the filmmaker’s personal life) and therefore it’s better because?????

The Boy and the Heron is a good counter example for this. I hate that movie and could talk about how as a constructed film it takes forever to get into its second act, wasting almost half its runtime on setup, or how it waffles between being a weird tone piece and every thirty minutes having someone inartfully exposition dumping backstory so it feels like it’s running at cross purposes and feels kind of like it wants it both ways, or how all the tertiary characters are introduced in its third act so never get time to become realized. If you liked it, though, I want to hear why as long as the answer isn’t “oh you see it’s one big metaphor for Miyazaki’s history as a creator and actually these characters are supposed to be stand-ins from the people in his past”. I shouldn’t need a fuckin’ GameFAQs guide to enjoy a movie and even more than that if the film doesn’t adequately communicate its metaphors on the screen within the context of watching the movie, that movie has failed. Full stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qWIo-XhuIE

NieR Occomata posted:

It’s such a poorly made film that the character that they spend the entire third act saving is never adequately written out of the film, leaving a plot hole so gaping (I guess she died in the helicopter crash? I dunno!) you could run a truck through it. By every empirical metric it’s an overlong piece of garbage that introduces a billion plot threads that serve no purpose beyond inflating its runtime while centrally failing at delivering on its stated premise, a zombie movie that’s also a heist movie. Which is more my point. As a film it so fails at every aspect of being a coherent, watchable movie because it gets so tied up in its B-Z plots and “easter eggs” or whatever defense Snyder fans use to pretend a very bad movie is good that it fails at very, you know, super basic stuff like sequential storytelling.

empiricism doesn’t exist for art in the manner with which you’re using it, hth

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*NieR Occomata prepares a sniper rifle* referencing other works in your art to further elucidate your themes, huh? prepare to die, motherbitch

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Gripweed posted:

I got off Twitter a few months ago and I regret it. I know way less about what's going on politically and culturally, and I don't see half as much cool art or porn anymore.

oh no where will you find porn on the internet

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CatstropheWaitress posted:

Watched Desperado randomly yesterday and having never sought out Rodriguez's stuff, I get why he had a career based on this alone. Was just so much fun, with Trejo's scene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTTYOJ3oqSs) being a highlight. Was howling when the hero had two friends that look exactly like him show up without any prior mention also with guitar cases and more so when one of the cases turned out to be a tiny rocket launcher.

Gonna check out the other two films in the trilogy, but I worry a little I just saw Rod at his best.

El Mariachi is fun, it’s got some screwball bits that don’t work for me, but it’s a cool flick full of criminal misunderstandings.

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The best part about Pottersville is when Michael Shannon walks in on Christina Hendricks hugging Ron Perlman in fursuits (it’s nothing sexual) and Michael Shannon says “what’s a furry?”

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Gripweed posted:

I don’t believe you.

It’s a repeated statement throughout the film that the furry thing isn’t sexual. Pottersville is a very weird movie.

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Bug and Take Shelter are both great “Michael Shannon fuckin loses it” movies.

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Failed Imagineer posted:

He's still not as large as book Reacher, hilariously.

"Reacher is described as being 6 feet 5 inches (1.96 m) tall, weighing 210–250 pounds (95–113 kg) and having a 50-inch (130 cm) chest."

Alan Ritchson is 6'2" and shot from below.

So Jack Reacher is proportioned like an early Jojo character?

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CelticPredator posted:

i enjoyed barry and one piece more than any movie last year.

I still really like movies but I gotta say, shonen anime is so much better than the Prestige American TV I’ve seen. I’d take a bullet for the Italian food episode of Jojo.

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

It's Bible Study for a certain kind of person.

Zoro was crucified, but he came back with the three-sword style which makes him cooler than Jesus.

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YO DID SOMEONE SAY BOLT THROWER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eulkes4YMOM

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Jenny Agutter posted:

Anyone watching Sexy Beast (2024) the Paramount+ prequel series to Jonathan Glazer’s Sexy Beast (2000)?

Call me Jonathan Glazer because my eyes are Glazin over at this concept!!

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

If you liked the D&D movie I cannot recommend Game Night (the directors' previous film) enough. The D&D movie is them being as funny as they can within an IP straitjacket.

Game Night’s a loving blast. The cast is killer, especially Jesse Plemmons.

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In disbelief that a nominally left-wing podcaster who became a tradcath and lied about COVID conspiracy theories made a bad inconsistent movie.

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

That was all the marketing, though. There's no real plot connection between, say, Captain America Winter Soldier and the later films; it was very much an exquisite corpse from the beginning. The narrative of the MCU was largely metatextual, with people tracking production news (casting announcements, corporate partnerships, etc.) and theorycrafting based on sequel teasers. Without that stuff as a supplement, the project collapses back into just a series of mediocre action movies.

Remember when the sequel tease in Guardians of the Galaxy was fuckin Howard the Duck?

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Punkin Spunkin posted:

Yeah, like Black Hawk Down it's a film that was rough when it landed and has only aged worse and worse.

Hard disagree, it’s a movie all about breaking the myth surrounding Israel and showing the state for what it is, built on the blood of those it forced out. It also draws direct parallels between how brutal and sadistic Israeli foreign policy is with post-9/11 American foreign policy.

Mordiceius posted:

Genuinely that would be better.

While I haven’t seen the film, this is what I’ve been able to gather from the word of those that have seen it.

Possible full Argylle spoilers Elly Conway (Bryce Dallas Howard) is the real Agent Argylle, who has been brainwashed. Cavill is her in-book counterpart. Sam Rockwell is her former partner/lover? and the in-book counterpart is John Cena. The cat is apparently a smartcat with the in-book counterpart being Sam Jackson. Also Elly's "parents" are the villains who secretly brainwashed her

This is even more confusing than the theory people apparently leaked before the movie came out, that the cat was a god-like figure that allowed BDH to alter reality by writing book.

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I assume Alan Cumming is all classically shakespeare trained and stuff and that's great but i can't look at him without thinking of his extremely grating role as "i'm invincible!" guy in Goldeneye

I don’t know if I’ll ever see him as anything but Flippity Floop or whatever from Spy Kids

Punkin Spunkin posted:

my childhood (see also Titus,

uh

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We should have called you HUNDU THE YOUTUBE OF THE DAY GOD.

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Open Source Idiom posted:

My mate likes this because it means he can get up and go to the kitchen, make himself a snack and come back, sit down, browse the web for five minutes and keep the movie going the entire time he does all of this.

I think this is poo poo! But I suspect that's part of the impetus behind the mountains and mountains of verbal exposition these things have.

There are shows that are specifically designed to be second-screen entertainment, with the assumption that the person watching is going to be looking at their phone most of the time anyway. That is how a major amount of people watch TV. I really felt it watching The Haunting of Hill House. Two episodes in and all we get are protracted flashbacks, a dysfunctional family, a death, and the beginning of an autopsy. I like Mike Flanagan, but man were those episodes slack as hell.

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NikkolasKing posted:

So I love the game Red Dead Redemption 2. Like, a lot. I've never been a big Western fan, though. In a way, I feel like some of what draws me to RDR2 is kinda what drew me to Pirates of the Caribbean, even when I was too young to really understand it. It's not like I love cowboys and pirates, it's more that feeling of...loss. Of an old world fading away or being destroyed, and our heroes are relics of a bygone age fighting against it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt2VA_hf3jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zIWGJgwLpA


I say all this, but I have been thinking I'd try to get into some Westerns. Just curious if any of you would suggest any with this same "feeling."

Or not. Maybe Westerns with entirely different feelings. I'm thinking I'll get this John Wayne/John Ford collection.

Once Upon a Time in the West by Sergio Leone. One of the central elements is a train being built, symbolizing civilization coming, therefore bringing the death of the Old West.

Gripweed posted:

It got me thinking, what is the best song created to be a diegetic song with in the world of a movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_9eQXlsVQ

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Basebf555 posted:

I think it has the best shot in any Western, when Claudia Cardinale first arrives and enters the town and the camera follows and then pans up over the roof and you get a view of the whole town. The shot starts at about 3min here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdL__zuZvpA&t=244s

That shot is when I realized I was watching something really special. drat good movie, I gotta watch it again soon.

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NikkolasKing posted:

I gotta say, I haven't seen a film with such an unsatisfying ending in a long time. I started my journey into Westens with Red River because it sounded really interesting. And it was. Then it made a joke out of all the intensity and emotion it built up. Someone chickened out.

I haven’t read the story, but I looked up a summary on Wikipedia and it’s a lot better than the film’s ending. They probably changed it so it wouldn’t be such a downer. I still really like Red River, and my favorite part is how many times they basically say “no homo.”

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Basebf555 posted:

If you want a Western that doesn't pull any punches, check out The Great Silence. You will not come away from that movie saying that they chickened out, that's for sure.

How can you tell you’re watching the right version before the end? I watched the good version, but didn’t realize until afterwards there were alternate endings.

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NikkolasKing posted:

I don't wanna jump straight into Spaghetti Westerns or what seems to be called "Revisionist Westerns." Because, just looking at the wiki for Great Silence, it says the film is lauded for the "subversion of several conventions of the Western film genre." What conventions? Seems like I should start with a conventional Western before going to the opposite, you know?

It's like folks who say Evangelion was remarkable for being a robot show with great characters and deeper themes. Nobody likes those mecha fans, and I don't wanna be one of them with Western fans, either.

Next Western I wanted to watch is Shane.

As someone who used to be that kind of Eva fan before getting into Gundam, I feel you. Shane’s a great pick, and I also really like The Ox-Bow Incident, Bend of the River, and The Tall T (especially if you’re also a noir fan).

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

this is probably both my favorite John Wayne and John Ford movie of the ones I've seen, although The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is up there for both

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is a great classic Western, and would be good to compare to revisionist Westerns specifically because it’s about building the myth of the West. Also I love me some drunk Edmond O’Brien acting.

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Huston = Treasure of the Sierra Madre, a certified banger
Hawks = Rio Bravo, a certified banger
Ford = My Darling Clementine, a certified banger

Hope this clears it up!

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

And on the other end of things, the straight to DVD sequel to Atlantis: The Lost Empire was extremely clearly three episodes from an otherwise unproduced TV series stitched together.

There was also a DTV sequel to Disney’s Tarzan that was basically a clip show, but the clips were each three whole episodes.

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People were posting clips of the action scenes on Twitter and they were unbelievably bad. Wide angles with tons of negative space, few shots that emphasized the action, weirdly sterile violence, and kooky premises that don’t translate to interesting fights.

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End of Shoelace posted:

I don't know how you feel about Jojo but the D'arby the Gambler OVA is loving good by itself and free on YouTube. Watch it now!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/DoXR23BMAvU?si=a6BldEJNlxyz56on

Oh hell yeah. My girlfriend and I got severely Jojo-pilled last year because of the david production version, so I’ve been curious about watching the Stardust OVAs. Good to know at least some of it is on YouTube!

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Gripweed posted:

It also constantly made jokes about itself in a way that made it clear that the characters thought the whole story was stupid and you shouldn't care about any aspect of it.

Yes, it is an MCU movie.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Takes it in spades? Schrader himself is a scumbag!

TAFS is the perfect place for a man who’s been kicked out of at least one celebrity poker room for being too creepy to the women involved.

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Which epistolary novels, other than Dracula, have ever been adapted for the silver screen? Turning an epistolary novel into a movie sounds like hell, honestly.

Kinda sorta Carrie.

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