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Which rumored fight are you most looking forward to in 2024?
This poll is closed.
Alex Pereira vs Tom Aspinall for the Heavyweight title 4 8.89%
Conor McGregor vs Michael Chandler at Middleweight 0 0%
Francis Ngannou vs Ryan Bader to break the sport's skull ejection record 8 17.78%
Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. in some kind of amateur MMA match 1 2.22%
Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic in a double retirement bout 4 8.89%
The UFC vs The American Legal System in an antitrust fight 28 62.22%
Total: 45 votes
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kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
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kimbo305 posted:

I too wish for a controversial Muslim force to defeat Israel.

:eyepop:

DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

Torrez Finney, who is 5'8" with like 6'4" arms at middleweight.

https://twitter.com/punishertorrez/status/1357474829864226818





LobsterMobster posted:

that gentleman can tie his shoes without bending over


Get this man a cargo pants sponsorship.

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kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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CarlCX posted:

Not gonna lie, it bothered me in the early days when the effort it took to do it was still new, but these days I am not going to be mad at anyone for not reading 5,450 words about why I think Phil Hawes will lose a fight.

I've never followed MMA, never watched an event, and have really only watched content that I was linked to via these threads.

After I watched the Jon Bois / Felix doc at some point during the pandemic though, I was both intrigued to learn more about the people in the ring, and wholly disinterested in actually engaging in the modern UFC product.

So finding your in-depth fight previews was awesome, and the contributions of many other posters was enlightening as well. The "let's remember some fighters" thread, the thread about the more absurd combat sports, the "Who is most like Tank Abbott" thread, etc.

Anyways, your output is fantastic, and I figured I was overdue to say so. Aight, back to lurking these UFC/MMA threads! :munch:

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
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Marching Powder posted:

thanks for posting. it feels like an asylum in here sometimes. it's really interesting to hear from someone consuming this content like you are. it must be weird lol but yeah we do have the best mma journalists on the planet here they just don't work for the ufc.

Haha, yeah, it's certainly an odd way to be a spectator, but tbqh since the early-10s I've pulled away from live-watching content across all sports. Having a crack-ping "oh, these industries are exploitative as hell, and sexual/physical/emotional abuse are baked into the adolescent elite leagues" realization started the process. Turns out I felt happier and healthier not spending 2-4 hours watching ads, talking heads, ads, some sport, ads, player suffering a TBI, ads, etc.

I spent the saved time playing ultimate frisbee, cycling, rock climbing, etc (until my body said lol you're 40 now, good luck with all that), but stayed engaged entirely through game summaries, SAS/TFF discussion, and the highlights that rose to the top on social media. So reading PGP and linked videos/articles to get a very superficial grasp of MMA's recent history and current landscape just worked for me.

Anyways, kudos to all you long-time fans who manage to put up with all the regressive intolerant spiteful garbage that too many of the top promoters and competitors spew out on the regular. Reading the December PPV GDT and seeing the pure glee when Covington was thoroughly outclassed was cathartic as hell.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Shumagorath posted:

Oh what the gently caress I didn’t realize 297 was happening here. Maybe there’s some way Strickland and Du Pelisses (not looking that up) can be rendered inadmissible to Canada if they’re not already in the country. I’d rather a non-title headliner than those two.

I knew something was wrong when I saw UFC flags hanging outside the strip club on the way home.

Ticketmaster’s app tried to flog tickets to me just now, so I hope it’s selling like total poo poo.

:sigh::respek::smith:

BlindSite posted:

Dricus is the number one contender deservedly so and Strickland is the champion and deservedly so.

The middleweight title fight deserves to be a main event lol.

But have you considered "those guys are shitheads, so gently caress 'em"? :blessed:

Anyways

I went looking for any articles on leftist MMA competitors, and found an interesting article or two. It's funny (in a sad way) that I would have presumed a website called "freedom news" to be extremely right-wing. So this was a pleasant surprise.

https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/09/13/the-leftists-breaking-the-rights-chokehold-on-mma/ posted:

As an outspoken anarchist and antifascist, Irving is also well attuned to the pull of MMA for right-wingers. “It’s part of the mentality of a fighter that they are an extraordinary individualist,” he says. “It’s rather part of the problem that in order to gear yourself up to do some GBH on someone, you have to depersonalise them, and recognising someone as being precisely like you gets in the way of that. The notion that there’s not enough to go around, so it’s either them or me is very logical in the situation a prize-fighter finds themselves in. That’s why fighters can’t get behind a players association, which is what all other sports in the USA call the union, presumably to avoid the socialist implications of the word union. It’s why the NBA and NFL get around a 50% revenue split with athletes, and the UFC is under 10%.” Irving also believes that the culture surrounding MMA leads people to the right, with the mainstream conservative figureheads found in the sport often acting as the gateway to radicalisation. “Let’s say you like MMA, YouTube is going to suggest to you Joe Rogan. Because you watched Joe Rogan, you are going to get suggested Jordan Peterson in short order, and ‘badda-bing’, ‘badda-boom,’ you’re three clicks away from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (laughs).” Despite the lack of outright fascism at the highest levels, he says that this gateway effect, its many implied agendas, and the plausible deniability they often come couched in present the real threat, both in MMA and society at large. “To summarise, the whole thing is an easy, ideal fit for the right wing. All the more reason not to let the bastards have it without a fight.”


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Yet as valuable as martial arts are for self-defence, in more recent times, another leftist value has found its form in the sweatboxes of MMA gyms. A drive for accessible training has birthed a number of specifically leftist clubs offering martial arts as mutual aid. In mainland Europe, there are a number of well-established collectives, one of the earliest being the Palestra Popolare Antifa Boxe in Turin, Italy. Opened in 2001 in the squatted Askatasuna social centre, the gym is run completely by volunteers, open to all, and doesn’t charge expensive fees. Unlike media portrayals that the space is populated exclusively by street fighting militants, evident in the name “Palestra Popolare” (People’s Gym), the project aims to make martial arts as accessible as possible to marginalised groups excluded from the wider scene by the costly memberships, male domination and conservative attitudes often found in commercial gyms.

This ethos soon made it to the UK, which now hosts a flourishing scene of leftist gyms. London’s Solstar and queer collective Bender Defenders are well-known examples. One of the longest standing, Left Hook, formed in Brighton in 2014. Beginning as workshops held in squatted or rented spaces for hunt saboteurs and antifascist activists to gain the self-defence skills needed in confrontational situations, the gym now offers regular Thai boxing, grappling, running and social sessions. “It’s a very much long-term, grassroots work, but we are aiming at making people more confident with themselves, to open them the door to more mainstream martial arts or sports clubs and change the culture from the inside over time,” say its members. As committed anarchists, their non-hierarchical and anti-authoritarian ideals are exercised in practice through their sessions. Community is key here, bridging the gap between the individuality of the sport and the cooperative nature of its training. “Martial arts give people the opportunity to experience mutual aid, each benefiting from the other’s knowledge and rising together. Everyone gets to train in an environment that allows them to be who they really are and feel supported. This is what really matters, building a strong collective through the realization of powerful individualities.”


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As committed as these gyms are to inclusivity and fellowship, no short thrift is given to the risks of this kind of organising. All of the gyms mentioned hide the identity of their members and the location of their training sessions, all too aware of the pressures facing antifascist activism from the state and far-right. This need has been recognised by a London-based collective who have asked for their interview to be anonymous. Formed in 2021 after taking inspiration from a session at Mutiny, a group of mates training at regular gyms decided to borrow some lesson plans and start training together. Hoping to get more on the left interested in combat sports both as spectators and participants, the foundation of the gym remains antifascism. “Anti-fascism goes in stops and starts, so we wanted something consistent that would allow us to continue to build a network during periods of inactivity, rather than having to do so from scratch the next time a far-right demonstration is planned in our city,” say members of the collective. This is antifascism as unity and community, forming a collective ethos around shared passions and a common cause. “What we’ve found in gyms has been a camaraderie and a willingness to mutually support and develop each other. Anti-fascism, like combat sports, is open to everyone.”


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“I firmly believe that anarchists and anti-capitalists are obliged to project an image of strength, and indeed be physically and mentally strong,” says Irving. “Leftists have an image problem – the cuck soy-boy, the indolent scrounger, the humourless and hyper-sensitive woke snowflake ‘offended’ by everything etc. The far-right has always played this up to attract vulnerable young men in particular, with the promise of being a ‘tough guy’ by joining their ranks; having some sense of being powerful by being a physically powerful individual amongst others of the same ilk.” Instead of allowing the right to fashion themselves in this image, Irving believes the left must instead possess their own kind of strength. “Make yourself physically courageous and hard to kill. It will spill over into other aspects of self-defence. A critical part of left ideology is simply that you must survive, and survive with your hope for a better future and tenderness intact in spite of it all. If you fail to harden on the outside you are more vulnerable to hardening on the inside.” Irving derides Noam Chomsky’s statement, made following the 2017 clashes between anti-fascists and white supremacists in Charlottesville, USA, that the far right always wins in a physical confrontation. “Speak for yourself. If even the icons of leftism give this ground over willingly then you relegate leftism to an academic exercise for intellectuals, with no practical real-world application. So gently caress Chomsky, go get yourself some boxing gloves and lift some weights.”

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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mewse posted:

CBC is predictably disgusted with strickland but they also call Dana out for lying

Well, at least some places aren't shying away from describing his hateful bilge.

I know Du Plessis is a white South African who publicly stated he'd become the first "real" Aftican champion and justified his idiocy by saying Ngannou, Adesanya, and others trained elsewhere in the world, so he loving sucks for that. But... was his assholery imited to that inter-African beef? I realllly don't want to start googling those sorts of things cause I know I'll see other results that will infuriate and depress me.

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