Auspol 2024: We All Live On Nuclear Submarines

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The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Comstar posted:

I got bulk billed for a GP visit today. I was completely shocked.

If you�re not a concession card holder then your GP and their practice combined got less money for that consultation then my local barber charges for a basic haircut with no extras.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2024 22:59

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 18:13

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Cartoon posted:

The hair cut will take at least twice as long.

Your point still stands however.

apparently only around 12% of GPs� time is spent on consults <10 minutes https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/gp-opinion/a-48-second-doctor-visit,-anyone

The last figure I heard for average consult length was 17 minutes, although I can�t find a public source for that figure. The most recent one from a quick google is 15 minutes in 2002, but I�d say GP consults are highly likely to have got slightly more complex and time consuming since then. My last haircut from the barber was 20 minutes.

I also don�t know how the barber and the shop split their billings. Most GPs get about 65% of their billings, the rest goes to the practice (and the practices are crying poor). Out of their 65% the GP covers their own super, any leave they want to take (they have no funded annual or parental leave), thousands per year in college fees, thousands in indemnity insurance and nearly a thousand in AHPRA registration.

There�s nothing wrong with what the barber is charging, but the government only giving you a similar amount to pay your doctor bill is definitely wrong.

Also early 15% of a GP�s work time is spent on non-billable work https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/4f596068-36e8-438d-b4b4-fe0b90cd549b/MABEL-data-examining-workload.aspx (worse for female GPs)

# ¿ Jan 14, 2024 02:54

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Isn�t what the first paragraph does?

We need to talk about transport. Because the current system isn�t working. It�s expensive,

But sure I�ll work on condensing it further

Not just the problem, but the solution. What are, say, the five most important things people need to know about this solution? (e.g. that it will use existing under-used spaces and corridors, that increased cycling will save money for our health system, etc).

# ¿ Jan 15, 2024 11:27

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Recoome posted:

We really ought to be thinking about how we address sub-threshold mental health challenges beyond relying on the shadow mental health system that are Employee Assistance Programs. We rely on people having a stable job and stable access to EAPs which obviously miss huge sections of our community who are not in paid work.

The answer to most sub-threshold mental health challenges is to make a safer, happier, more comfortable society. Like the opposite of Centrelink.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2024 11:28

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

lih posted:

people will notice that they get more take home pay starting in july and labor can make plenty noise about how 90% of workers are getting more than they would have under the liberals' plan. it's a winnable argument for labor, though they definitely should have done this sooner if they were going to

Ok but can you see how whether or not someone technically broke a (bad) promise (that they never should have made) is far more important than good public policy? How am I supposed to find it in me to forgive Albo his perfidy when I can barely hear myself think over the sound of cash pouring into my pockets from this increased tax cut? It�s too much to ask of someone. He�ll have to go.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2024 03:40

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Blamestorm posted:

2% wealth tax for everyone with over $2m of assets and win the game

There�s already a wealth tax on landowners.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2024 10:25

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Cartoon posted:

Do you mean this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-10/victorians-to-pay-most-property-tax-next-financial-year/102581716

https://taxpolicy.crawford.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/uploads/taxstudies_crawford_anu_edu_au/2020-12/tax_fact_16_2020.pdf

Yeah, I was referring to land tax.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 01:32

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

He wrote in his diary that he personally took up a gun and shot & wounded a native dude "who seemd resolved to oppose our landing" before his boat even reached the shore

He forgot to note, because it would have seemed self evident to him at the time, that the musket ball was filled with tiny astronomers and botanists.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 03:52

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

"Don't welcome me to my own country" also got a song, it made #2 on the 2024 Coldest 100 list. You don't need to watch it, you know exactly how it plays out but here it is anyway

https://twitter.com/OzKitsch/status/1751121356190859327

LOL @ people in the comments going "Wait, there's something worse than this??" and the OP going "Unfortunately yeah, brace yourselves "

E: in case people don't want to click through, #1 on the list was Daryl Somers being lovely to Kamahl while performing in blackface

Don't welcome us to arr own kerntry. We's ossies an' prowd.

Edit - even if this song was somehow apolitical, they're terrible people just for the lines "I'm welcome / I've always been welcome" and "I'm welcome and I'll always be welcome". That's some assertive loving narcissism right there.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2024 23:07

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster posted:

We present a plan for an integrated bicycle network following existing train-lines, motorways, and waterways to connect the whole of the metropolitan Sydney in complete comfort and safety, on fully separated cycle-paths, with almost zero disruption to motorists.

By exploiting existing infrastructure and taking a top-down, inter-council approach, we minimise expenditure and close existing gaps to create a fully contiguous network, maximising benefits and minimising impact on existing use. This will lower the barriers to cycling in Sydney, resulting in billions of dollars in savings for government and families, major public health benefits and massively reduced carbon emissions.

Key sections:

Connecting the M7 to Parramatta

Connecting the north to the city with a skyway from Ridge St to the Bridge

A bike ferry network

Connecting the Airport to the Harbour at the Opera House

Providing painless access to Olympic Park

The Artificial Kid fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jan 29, 2024

# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 05:48

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

an egg posted:

surely planning is going on behind the scenes...

Surely. They wouldn't just not be planning, that wouldn't be like them at all.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2024 01:19

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Recoome posted:

The psychology profession has just experienced an interesting, if low-key development in how qualifications are recognised in the regulation of psychologists.

https://www.psychologyboard.gov.au/News/2024-01-29-update-about-applications-for-endorsement.aspx

Many goons will be aware of psychologists, some will have personal experience with a psychologist. You may know that there are many types of psychologists. Some use titles like "clinical psychologist", others will use a registrar title. What is important to know is this.

- All psychologists have done a specific 3 year undergraduate degree, followed by a 4th year that is either an honours year or a graduate diploma.
- Psychologists MUST do an additional 2 years of training of some form. This has previously been a 2 year apprenticeship (now phased out), 1 year of postgrad uni + 1 year apprenticeship, or 2 years of postgraduate uni.
- No matter what you do, you come out the end with general registration as a psychologist. Everyone who holds general registration is legally allowed to use the title "psychologist".
-Additional titles, like "registrar" or "clinical psychologist" are locked behind a further approx 2 years of supervised practice (a registrar program). This is referred to as an "Area of Practice Endorsement" (AoPE) or just "endorsement", where the person is at the completion of the registrar program is able to use the title of the endorsement they hold (i.e., clinical psychologist).
-If you finish a Master in Clinical Psychology or Organisational Psychology, you do not automatically become a Clinical or Organisational Psychologist. The AoPE is not a specialisation, rather it is a mark of depth of understanding in an area. All psychologists have a shared competency standard which are captured by general registration.

Now historically the endorsement pathway is not available to psychologists who do not have relevant postgraduate credentials - for example, you'd need to do a Master of Clinical Psychology in order to go down the path to become a clinical psychologist. This fact is what really fucks with psychologists and creates a 2 tier system where clinical psychologists are perceived to have greater prestige due to attracting a greater Medicare rebate.

What has changed is that the Psychology Board (which regulates the profession) now is allowing psychs with postgrad qualifications to apply to the Board to see whether they are able to start a registrar program which their degree does not specifically name. This is because the Psych Board got hosed up a few years ago in a tribunal case and were told that the legislation does not lock people out of becoming a clinical psychologist because they did not do a clinical psych degree.

Why this is important is because, at a fundamental level, there is little real difference between what a Masters of Psychology and a Masters of Clinical Psychology teaches. This will have implications for branches of psychology like Community, Ed/Dev, Sport, and Forensic Psychology as these programs that funnel people into an AoPE are very limited or do not exist anymore.

This change is not a seismic shift, but an important but subtle change to how psychologists are regulated. When I first read the tribunal decision, I figured that this would have to be a mechanism that the Psych Board would have to implement to comply with the decision. It remains to be seen how "easy" it is for psychologists to meet whatever threshold is required (and the cost to apply is 3x as much) but I hope this might in the future help pave the way for greater access to the clinical AoPE.

When I was doing my psych masters (research, not clinical) I shared space with some DCP students and they were a lot more switched on than the average psych graduate, and switched on in a different way from the standard PhD candidates. I hope that in the long run there'll still be pathways for exceptional, highly academically oriented practitioners to be recognised for it. There seems to be gently caress all chance of psychiatry supply meeting demand in the near future so psychologists who can manage increasingly specialised and difficult issues will be valuable, and knowing who they are will matter.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2024 12:02

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster posted:

I can't think of anyone who would be opposed to this, all of those people would say yep looks good to me.

Have you heard of Theory of Mind? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...8C&opi=89978449

# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 04:22

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

GrandTheftAutism posted:

Wollongong

Ewwwww

# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 21:51

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

JBP posted:

If I was Kristina Kenneally's son I'd be doing gently caress all collecting $400,000 a year sitting on boards and making eight phone calls a quarter. What a failure.

You might be overestimating the permanence and lucrativ�ity of the gravy train for children of former premiers.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2024 08:33

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

People can get guns? Now there�s no way for us to stop rampant gun use other than our ability to arrest, prosecute and jail anyone caught in possession of an illegal gun. Society on the brink of collapse.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2024 06:23

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

GrandTheftAutism posted:

Mostly. The bits that matter most, though, like the firing pin and barrel, are machined out of metal alloys since plastics won't stand up to the explosive pressures of projectile cartridge combustion.

Although... now that metal 3D printing is a thing...

Not everyone cares about those penalties or even about the law in general. Ask your nearest sovereign citizen/freeman on the land type cooker what they think of the government interfering with their ability to have a gun.

I�ll be sure to ask them that during their time in prison for having a gun.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2024 16:49

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Recoome posted:

Bucky, why don�t we cool up a proposal to build a giant fan to blow away the pollution from Sydney. Clear skies and really the tech exists at a small level so we just got to make it bigger.

Just imagine, clean Sydney skies thanks to the Giant Fan.

We don�t need to scale anything up or spend any money. There are over 6 million under-utilised fans already distributed around Sydney.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2024 21:25

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Chicken Parmigiana posted:

Being Jewish does not, in fact, obligate you to have any particular opinion about anything

I have a Mr Moses for you on line 2

(But your overall point is correct)

# ¿ Feb 12, 2024 21:20

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Solemn Sloth posted:

this thread needs some more comedy so here's your reminder that sally rugg, in a federal court affidavit, swore that she had to advise monique ryan not to compare her kooyong election campaign to the experience of colonialism by indigenous australians in her maiden speech to parliament

it is a national tragedy that we'll probably never get to see Maiden Speech [Monique's Version]

Sally Rugg seems like a massive narcissist, and saying �I had to remind her not to say that� is a narcissist�s way of saying �I didn�t like that part of my paediatric neurology professor boss�s speech�.

https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/175659-monique-ryan

# ¿ Feb 13, 2024 04:13

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Solemn Sloth posted:

Not liking the part of your bosses speech that compares running for parliament as a wealthy white person to the indigenous experience of colonialism is a good thing, hth

What was the text that got removed?

# ¿ Feb 13, 2024 05:22

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

NPR Journalizard posted:

Billionaire says "Pay me or I will keep doing the poo poo that I know is harming the planet"

fucken sociopaths

I�ll take a sociopath saying �for god�s sake don�t let me kill again� over the ones saying �we need to make involuntary euthanasia mandatory so that philanthropists such as myself can continue to enrich the world through slaughter�.

I know Forrest has just seen a way to make money off climate change, but that�s better than actively trying to obfuscate climate change and extend fossil fuel use.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 02:47

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What a truly magnificent idea. Just imagine being able to down tools, switch off and tell the management to bugger off (�Crossbench close to workplace deal�).

I would like to propose the right for employers to disconnect staff from their Facebook, Instagram, Superbowl and WhatsApp messages from family and friends during work hours.

And insist that employees do not take their phones to the toilet for extend periods. We lose so much time to staff sitting in the loo on their phones, continually engaging in non work. I once measured one employee�s engagement, and he was losing two hours a day.

Any takers, Albo?

Tom Marinov, Pennant Hills, NSW

Oh thank loving Christ this was a quote and not an actual boomer employer goon.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 03:57

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Non Compos Mentis posted:

god she has a bad face

She�s like a Vogon that went to an elite prep school.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2024 01:20

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster: That infrastructure looks a little�ill-considered [unzips]

# ¿ Feb 15, 2024 07:14

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Guess what the Wright brothers did for a job

They were visionary engineers who happened to run a bike workshop. They invented an early form of wind tunnel analysis (using a rotating by wheel) that enabled them to test aerofoils more efficiently than anyone else.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2024 06:26

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Building apartment buildings in a circle is stupid. Whatever the best orientation is for a building in that location only one of them will have it, and they'll all look at each other.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2024 13:27

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster posted:

At that scale I think they're about 200 meters apart across the middle. Make it more if you want. They won't all have ideal orientations no, but we're comparing it to current housing developments, not some utopian ideal.

Why not just build them all next to each other, all looking out over a 200m wide linear park with a safe cycleway running through it?

# ¿ Mar 1, 2024 14:06

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Spookydonut posted:

bucky bikes have their place and its not during massive events, thats what trains are for.

bikes can certainly get you to a train station but where are you gonna store 20k bikes at a stadium

In the perimeter octagon, beyond the runways.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2024 15:19

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

KingEup posted:

The overwhelming amount of evidence indicates that youth vaping has accelerated the decline in youth smoking.

There is no evidence of a gateway effect:

https://x.com/jonathanfoulds/status/1737144488521343299?s=61&t=0JZcRltCkkWUPOYIuINbjQ

What the research actually shows:

That would be great if vaping were harmless, but it isn't https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7590536/

# ¿ Mar 5, 2024 04:16

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

If nicotine patche, lozenges and gum didn�t exist there might be more of a case for vaping, but those existing things do exist and are safer than heating and inhaling a fine mist of something mixed and packaged by the lowest bidder. �VALI was all to do with one vape product ingredient� isn�t really that strong an argument. Even if we assume that most vape ingredients fall into the category of �stuff other than air and water vapour that you can safely inhale with no long-term consequences�, who knows when some manufacturer will put something noxious in there again? When it comes to stone benchtops I hope we can all agree that the lung health of 20-30-year-olds trumps commercial concerns. Why not then with vaping?

# ¿ Mar 5, 2024 11:19

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Racial villification laws are so unfair to white people, who don�t want to say racial stuff anyway so why ban them from saying that stuff? If only there were a way that racial villification laws could be used to further entrench ~~existing racial power structures~~ normal society (for everyone�s comfort and security) instead of disrupting things.

Edit - I�m being told that UK police have found a way

# ¿ Mar 6, 2024 12:41

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Bucky Fullminster posted:

let a million girls' idol get dragged through the headlines for a few cycles

You�re giving me loving whiplash, Bucky. I would have thought you�d sell your own grandmother for a few cycles.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 09:35

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Racism by oppressed people against their oppressors doesn't matter
Racism by oppressors against oppressed people matters a big loving lot

But the idea that "racism is prejudice + power/privilege" is problematic. It tries to frontload the complications of racial justice into a definition that should be very loving simple: racism is thinking that "race" is an important aspect of a human being.

The next step is to recognise that some acts of racism matter more than others, and that power, privilege, malice, harm etc. are all factors in why that is. The problem is that the legal system is built on a phony notion of protecting everyone equally ("the law in its majestic equality forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, to steal their bread"). So some people, for admirable reasons, want to torture the definition of racism so that it can be applied to some people and not others, when instead we should protect our hold on logic and meaning and instead torture the law into recognising that some acts of racism should be punished and others let slide.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 12:01

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Solemn Sloth posted:

At the risk of something resembling content there's a pretty good case from 2003 regarding a prison guard getting his feelings hurt by being called white by an indigenous women he had just refused to allow to visit her partner in the prison.

Obviously there's an entirely different set of legislation in the UK so who the gently caress knows what those idiots were do. This does however help demonstrate that in law there is a difference between calling someone a stupid white bastard and a stupid black bastard, you stupid white bastards.

The terms alleged were "you white piece of poo poo", "you loving piece of white poo poo" and "gently caress you whites, you're all loving poo poo" so a fair bit stronger than "stupid white bastard".

See this is how it should be, the law recognising the complex truth rather than language and logic being remade to deliver a desirable political outcome.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 23:37

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 18:13

The Artificial Kid: Feb 22, 2002; Plibble

Recoome posted:

What I�m confused about is this

Who are the people who despise this country? Please name this group as this is really relevant to this discussion.

He�s talking about the chicoms

# ¿ Mar 8, 2024 02:43

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